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SD mit HV30: in HDV aufnehmen und konvertieren oder oder nativ DV?

SD with HV30 in HDV recording and convert or natively or DV?



Frage von ArnAuge:
Dezember 2008

Hello s.alle and specifically s.die HV30-users,

've searched the forum, but the clear answer so far not found.

How do you get with the HV30 better SD quality:

1. by recording in HDV and capturing the down converted to DV

2. by using the camera to DV converter (which was then synonymous has the disadvantage that it takes the option, and later from the material or an HD movie to intersect)

Maybe somebody really been synonymous to what is written, because the issue is due to the hands. Then I would be a short notice very grateful.

Greetings and yet beautiful holiday
Arno



Antwort von domain:

By item 2 you've already point 1 and even answered it is universally synonymous handled.



Antwort von ArnAuge:

Hi domain,

I actually thought the synonymous. But since I was an article in Digital Video Active No. 1-2007 insecure. There stands the Canon A1 and SonyFX7:

"The native DV scenes both HDV Cams semolina while minimally more advanced, but were much sharper than later of HDV in DV konvertierte.Schlecht for the film: in contrast to HDV cameras like the FX1, which converted HDV scenes were better, DV as his pictures, he is now in the recording format for a decision. "

The question now is when the true extent to which the HV30 can be transferred, because the two are otherwise Picture on some factors very similar.








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"ArnAuge" wrote:
... How do you get with the HV30 better SD quality ...

Since the differences are slight and often also subjectively assessed differently, I would s.deiner simply try both versions and my own picture to make.



Antwort von ArnAuge:

"Bernd E." wrote:
"ArnAuge" wrote:
... How do you get with the HV30 better SD quality ...

Since the differences are slight and often also subjectively assessed differently, I would s.deiner simply try both versions and my own picture to make.


- The time I still synonymous. I just want to make sure that someone is not a "thesis-work" has written about ;-)



Antwort von JerryTrumpet:

Hi,

Canon has released a patch for the HV30 provider of 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0 (perhaps there are still recent), here is a problem with the down conversion has been corrected. To what details are involved here, please contact Canon to read.

So as info.

Greeting and yet beautiful Christmas
Jerry



Antwort von ArnAuge:

@ JerryTrumpet

thank you for the hint! My HV30 has this patch already well on it. That is the menu displayed firmware version.

Let's see what the trial brings ...

Even you and all others still nice day
Arno



Antwort von ArnAuge:

So, for all who are interested: I have the test done and have the statement of the journal article promptly confirmed.

Synonymous, at least for the Canon HV30: The natively in DV images are a touch sharper, than those recorded in HDV mode and capture the down converted images.

Of course, this is a shame, because you really need to define in advance where in SD you the best quality possible wants.

Best Regards
Arno



Antwort von Realsound:

The difference in the sharpness, I feel personally, however, rather than subjective. The choice of one or other record format is relatively easy to me because I use the advantage of the HDV images with pans, zooms, etc. to be able to process not want to miss. This gives me a lot of creative possibilities in the post. Especially since I doubt that an unexperienced observer this difference in the perception of still pictures.



Antwort von KlausZ:

Somewhere I read that the "Runterkonvertieren" of HDV to DV camera with resources should be possible, because the algorithms are not very well be. If you really HDV to DV conversion will be the software you can make (PPro, Final Cut Pro and how they all hot ..), the results would be much better.
To that extent would be a further trial in these circumstances maybe worth a try?



Antwort von jazzy_d:

Why should a man with HDV Cam filming in SD, or even the only filmed in HDV in SD on the PC take? I absolutely do not understand. HDV 1h = 1h ~ 13GB and SD (DV) = ~ 13GB.

Again and again: HDV film, HDV cut, an HD variant export (for example, Blu-ray or Mediabox or Vimeo / youtube) and a SD-DVD version for example.

That is still the best SD version instead with HDV Cam filming in SD or HDV as SD of the Cam issue.

Is it really logical, is not it?



Antwort von wolfgang:

Jazzy is right - I hardly know whom, with one of the HDV camera is filming in SD, and thus the possibility of HD processing takes. Also in HD filming in HD cut - and of course, more in HD output (whether it is for media player or Blu Ray).

It is true that there were early reports that the down conversion just for the Canon devices is slightly worse than when the same film in SD - only who is hardly likely with an HD device really want to film in SD, it is a pity to better quality.








Antwort von Meggs:

"wolfgang" wrote:
hardly be expected with an HD device really want to film in SD, it is pity for the better quality.


There are many reasons. For example, an order of SD should be extradited. Or will an event with 3 cameras. 2 are high-quality SD camcorder, the 3rd is an HD camcorder. Of course then you want from the HD camcorder, the best SD quality rausholen.



Antwort von Colo:

Hello,

have the contribution only today read. I have the comparison before a few months made. I film with the HV 30 generally only available in HD, cut with the identical project Presets (Ulead VS 11.5) and render exactly with the data of the original material (MPEG 2 video data rate constant 25000, etc.). This mpeg movie file, I then - in accordance with down-to DVD, which usually works out. Quality ok, but now wants to transfer full HD. MfG Colo.



Antwort von Blutox:

times as a matter s.rade where you examine whether the current firmware on the hv30 has?



Antwort von Realsound:

"Megger" wrote:
"wolfgang" wrote:
hardly be expected with an HD device really want to film in SD, it is pity for the better quality.


There are many reasons. For example, an order of SD should be extradited. Or will an event with 3 cameras. 2 are high-quality SD camcorder, the 3rd is an HD camcorder. Of course then you want from the HD camcorder, the best SD quality rausholen.


That I do not understand. Now I have many times with several concert recordings Cams and as synonymous with mixed HD and SD recorded. In the editing program as the output format SD and elected in their best quality imported. Why would I use the HD-Cam to convert to SD? So, I can take a swing synonymous with the HD-generating material.




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