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Frage von Hubert p.:
September 2007

Hello,

there were so many contributions, in terms of:
What Mirkofon used it, or what equipment you have, etc.

But I would like especially in the matter and would be sound like a poll synonymous start, where everyone from amateur to professional filmmakers his Sound can enumerate.
I promise me about it, to get an insight on how to proceed so here, also with Tonangel and Streropaar to an external recorder, or anything par radio. Prefers her Rycote or Sennheiser? Etc..

1. What microphones do you use?
Directional microphone
Stereo mic or stereo pair
-Lavaliermikro
Handheld Microphone
Large-Diaphragm Microphone
Camera Microphone
etc.

2. How it protects your microphone from wind noise?
Wind basket? Rycote or Sennheiser?
Holder / spider and fur?

3. As you take on the sound?
Camera Recorder or external (what)?

4. Do you work with wireless?
If yes, what systems?

5. If it a Tonangel uses, what then?
With internal cable routing?

6. What else do you use it for your movies?
EB-mixers, etc.?

7. What Headphones do you use s.Set?

I would be very happy if some little more than tell their Sound.

Thank you

PS: Who can be like a picture with purely represent.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Was quite expensive:

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Antwort von robbie:

GEIL








Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Good Beginning zum Bild



Antwort von megalutzi:

Hello,
I find it difficult now as a statement to make.
Depends on whether I get a live broadcast of a panel discussion, a live recording of a concert, or make a wedding video.
The corresponding sound technology used varies, of course, very strong.



Antwort von Pianist:

To 1) Sennheiser MKH 418S Sennheiser in a basket with windbreak coat to vdb-Angel, Sennheiser MKH-60 medium Rycote Softie as a camera mic, two Neumann KM 83 in Rycote basket with fur for stereo Atmos, the spokesman space Neumann TLM 103 , then there is still an old Neumann U87 in the drawer. For presentations and surveys wireless Sennheier SKM 565th

to 2) Outdoor (MKH 418 S) spring holder, basket and coat. Inside (TLM 103) and spider Poppschirm.

to 3rd) First of all it's all through a stereo SQN. Recorded directly with the camera or in-only recordings with a Tascam HD-P2. Sound is controlled band behind (ie, by the receiving device).

to 4) Yes, Sennheiser SKM 565 and 500th EK The EC 500 is fed from the SQN, which has a NP-1-adapter has.

to 5) Yes, an angel vdb with internal stereo spiral cord.

to 6) A stereo SQN-2S, which is now called SQN-4mini.

to 7.) Outside Beyer DT-100 and a SonyMDR-7506 speakers in the room.

Matthias



Antwort von BananaDragon:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Was quite expensive:

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Mono or stereo?



Antwort von Johannes:

What you should know these things are expensive and pigs on ebay rarely have reason to believe I can no Powermac 2nd afford.
Therefore, mono.
I use a mono T.bone em9600, Richtmic. I have currently just a simple pop of foam but it is a self baldt be sewn Windfell of Grandma gmbh. The signal is then stored on the tape. As Tonangel we have an old photo as you stand on the pictures of me or can see on my HP. I recently had a couple of cheap Philips Headphones fetched of course the big one.
Sry but know the word now is not how to say.



Antwort von Markus:

Banana Dragon wrote:
Mono or stereo?

A good ear is always mono. Stereo, it will be when you use two of them, s.besten left and right of the head. ;-)



Antwort von PowerMac:

Krass is the spatial hearing. Time differences, phase differences. My father has had on the psychoacoustics of hearing doctorate. If everything's so exciting when you have enough time for this!

http://www.uni-mannheim.de/fakul/psycho/irtel/lehre/seminararbeiten/w96/Hoeren1/Hoeren1.html#Inten
Even a mono ear can hear spatially limited!



Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Right! Due to the pinna, the sound is completely "anti-linear '(what I would call) distorted. But until this can be noise sources, more or less precise location, because depending on the direction otherwise distorted. Can you imagine s.PM 's Picture posted times to imagine how there is a sound getrichtert.

On this principle is synonymous to Kunstkopfstereofonie who just yet, so to headphone playback is instructed to halfway to work. Worthwhile to work with ... so with psychoacoustics. Or who is finally in the television broadcast of "Kill Bill" is not noticed that in the first fight scene, the acoustic side of Outland Television "away", although we have no surround system.



Antwort von king_lijaone:

1. What microphones do you use?
Directional microphone: t.Bone 9600

2. How it protects your microphone from wind noise?
Until now, unfortunately, only a simple foam coating.

3. As you take on the sound?
Boss Micro BR

4. Do you work with wireless?
No..

5. If it a Tonangel uses, what then?
K & M 23760 (without internal cable routing)

6. What else do you use it for your movies?
Nix.

7. What Headphones do you use s.Set?
Until now only NEN Stinknormales PC headset.








Antwort von king_lijaone:

Hello, I use this topic just to provide basic things about the movie to learn.

1. Is the sound quality worse when s.der Camera XLR connections than s.externen recorders? If, for example, the sound quality of a MKH416 s.einem Marantz PMD670 better than s.einer HVX200, or is there no difference?

2. Why have professionals, who with an external recorder still work from an EB-mixer (SQN or Sound Device), one can but synonymous s.Rekorder levels, what has the Mishcer So it makes sense?

3. I have seen on multiple images, which in this case, the Tonmänner around your neck always Targ 3-4 radio transmitter / receiver are. Why do we need them, if you only a directional microphone and a CameraLink or recorder has?

4. Have actually bodypack transmitter or a better quality Aufstecksender eg 500 vs. skp. Sk 500?
Is there even among the most expensive radio or the cable losses gegeüber eg SKP300 or SK50?



Antwort von Pianist:

"Anonymous" wrote:
1. Is the sound quality worse when s.der Camera XLR connections than s.externen recorders? If, for example, the sound quality of a MKH416 s.einem Marantz PMD670 better than s.einer HVX200, or is there no difference?

The Microphone sounds always the same. It knows no time s.welchem device angestöpselt it is. Only to be obviously the microphone inputs of various devices are of different quality. Thus, the sound very different sound.

"Anonymous" wrote:
2. Why have professionals, who with an external recorder still work from an EB-mixer (SQN or Sound Device), one can but synonymous s.Rekorder levels, what has the Mishcer So it makes sense?

The mixer is usually better preamplifier, limiter better, better filters, better routing options and so next. Therefore, a SQN or something similar is at the heart of Sound.

"Anonymous" wrote:
3. I have seen on multiple images, which in this case, the Tonmänner around your neck always Targ 3-4 radio transmitter / receiver are. Why do we need them, if you only a directional microphone and a CameraLink or recorder has?

Then, perhaps just not at all. But perhaps the Tonmensch indeed a short time later, a date, where he had three people with badges and transmitters or with wireless hand microphones equips. Then he had three receivers s.mixer and perhaps even a station to its mix s.die Camera wirelessly transmit.

"Anonymous" wrote:
4. Have actually bodypack transmitter or a better quality Aufstecksender eg 500 vs. skp. Sk 500?
Is there even among the most expensive radio or the cable losses gegeüber eg SKP300 or SK50?

That is all very relative. Different solutions are sound differently and for different purposes. An inconspicuous always sounds different than a hand-held microphone. Because of the position and the distance. Differences to the cables are very relative synonymous. Both systems can have their own drawbacks and faults have. More specifically, it can not say so sweeping.

Matthias



Antwort von TMaekler:

Thanks Matthias,

but I think you've got me to question number one misunderstood, it's not about the quality of the microphone but the sound recording of the later and since I wanted to know whether the recorder as CF cards include a better Ergebins bring a camera with Mini-Dv or P2.

In the fourth question, I am of an indicative microphone s.der Angel assumed that s.der funk sound s.die Camera there.
So:
1. Directional microphone> SKP500 to EK500-> XLR to Mini-jack-> Camera
2. Directional mic-> XLR to Mini-jack-> SK500 to EK500-> XLR to Mini-jack-> Camera

Which method is better? I know that with a AUfstecksender it would be practical, but I think that a pocket transmitter has a better quality or?



Antwort von headroom:

1. Decreased CS3e Shotgun, DPA 4061 lavalier, hand micro AKG 230, Audio Technica AT 3031/31 kidney Omni, fell 7 MS CMS Stereo One point. Short Shootgun Audio Technica AT875R

2. Fell / Fell with Sennheiser Zeppelin for decreased, with the new clips Ryocote S rebuilt. Deadkitten Rode Audio Technica

3 Type Phantom SonyPCM + D-50, Micro-Track I Apogge with MINI MINI ME + MP, Edirol R 4th

5. Van den Berg, external

7.Sennheiser Pro 25 + ATH-M50 of Audio Technica



Antwort von ChrisHH:

1. What microphones do you use?
Directional microphone: Audio Technica ATR 55
Handheld Microphone: Shure SM 58

2. How it protects your microphone from wind noise?
Simple foam-pop

3. As you take on the sound?
Camera

4. Do you work with wireless?
No, XLR / Minklinkenkabel

5. If it a Tonangel uses, what then?
No.

6. What else do you use it for your movies?
--

7. What Headphones do you use s.Set?
Creative HS 400




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