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Frage von ToMMYFiLM:


Dear Community,

Videographers myself am looking for a finite right professional tripod. It may cost me around at up to 250 ¬ and I ausgekuckt me one thing: (ebay offer)

http://cgi.ebay.de/Profi- video tripod Simbolon-300-camera-to-12kg-NEU_W0QQitemZ7567591179QQcategoryZ21165QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And here the Manufacturer Page:

http://www.simbolon.net/50165195d209b5214/50165195d209b7d18/50165195d209bf224/50165195f210d1815.html

've Personally never heard of "Simbolon" belongs;'m synonymous to googlen, forum search, and otherwise all sorts of things I did not come across this name.
Now:
- Has anyone experience with a fluid-HEAD Tripod of Simbolon, perhaps even with this?
- What really meaningful alternatives are there? (This question is erstmal nebenrängig. First, please answer to question 1! Thx.)

Thanks in advance schonmal

Your
Tommy Of http://www.tommyfilm.de

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Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:

Hello Tommy,

two things in advance:
1. A true professional tripod does not get you for 250, - Euro.
2. I own next to a professional tripod Knights of the Simbolon 300 Tripod and know what I'm talking about.

So:
The tripod comes from China, like so much today. This must not be a disadvantage. The tripod is stable and can be synonymous to bear a heavier camcorder. It is common and can be extended twice, is achieved with an impressive Height.

The video head is horizontally and vertically swiveling fluidgedämpft, that is correct. But, the damping is not adjustable (which is not necessarily for life) and above all: you can not enter into soft panning, especially with regard to horizontal panning. It's always a little resistance to overcome, so that the entry is in the pan to an abrupt jolt.

A dragonfly for alignment of the head is available. The adjustment can be easily done, since a 5cm-hemispherical shells is present.

Unfortunately, it does not fit the 10cm-professional video head of my knight tripod. The sturdy frame would not such a bad combination (the Knight tripod stand is simply pulled out).

The tripod legs have rubber studs only, no spikes. This is not necessarily synonymous bad, but if one works in the area who are dear to me spikes. I would not synonymous always clean the rubber feet, if I go out of inside.

My Conclusion:
If it does not depend on panning is quite usable, and the tripod in this price range (I have not bought for 200 euros) bad, if you want a heavier tripod for your camcorder.
Professionally, however, is something quite different.

Greeting
KDS

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Antwort von ToMMYFiLM:

First of all thanks for the quick response, KDS.
Ok, so very professionally, I now thought not synonymous, but I just did not think s.diese parts for 30 ¬. (Of which I already have one ...)
Of the top 300 that do not deliver to "butter" smooth panning, I understand. I wanted to inform me as saying before the purchase, whether it really worth it. The spikes: The Tripod is generally only come either in our modest little studio for use or for our next little docu-order. So I need them not.

So if the thing is synonymous, which I pray, here to post his views on them.

Tommy

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello Tommy,

The following article could be you. interested It usbezahlbare Consumer Tripod with Pan / Tilt fluidgedämpftem be named.

-> Tripods ...

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Antwort von Joerg62:

"K.-D. Schmidt" wrote:
If it does not depend on panning is quite usable, and the tripod in this price range (I have not bought for 200 euros) bad, if you want a heavier tripod for your camcorder.


What if it does not arrive on pans? But that's what matters! Otherwise, I can use my cam synonymous to a wall ... ;-)

"K.-D. Schmidt" wrote:
especially: one can not enter into soft panning, especially with regard to horizontal panning. It's always a little resistance to overcome, so that the entry is in the pan to an abrupt jolt.


Moment, but that is just important. When the pivotal because soo violent resistance this before? If so, that would be part kloppen yes to in-the-barrel. This sentence sounds extreme to miene old, creaking "Giotto" Tripod (spare me).

Tommy

@ Markus: Thank you. But the really good things that have to be as described (Manfrotto, etc. ..) to me slightly too expensive.

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Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:

Of course you can put your camera synonymous to a wall - if just one is there. Is it the cheapest tripod! Sorry, not available in all rooms and studios.
It will happen that a camera is placed in a fixed position and then continuously filming, such as the long shot, if multiple cameras are in use. I do not know how much experience you have in the shooting. In any case, it is important not just depend on pans.

You asked for information and opinions about the tripod. Did you get that. If they do not please you, I can not change it. It testifies to comment on stupid of bad style.

Once again, the lau you get no decent tripod.

KDS

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Antwort von gammanagel:

Hello Tommy,

nice homepage.

But here's Warning. 250 ¬ for a tripod to hear good, but they are only `a waste of money.
would rather save a little, as long as use the old tripod and then buy something sensible. This meant Sachtler or heiler or so. Costs at least 700 ¬ and it is worth every penny.
The cheaper do not have any real fluid head and are usually fluidgedämpft "or something. That means they are not flüssigkeitsgedämpft but are usually steamed slices of teflon. The initial fare reasonably well but not for long. Somewhat synonymous only means that you can in the WW area a little pan without much stuttering. Buckley times to attempt an object in the telephoto range.

I bought some years before such a part of Sony / Manfrotto 850 DM for the time and I ruined two years later, unique shots.

A good tripod is expensive, but lasts synonymous 10-15 years, so it should be synonymous for future cameras generous and not just 2.5 kilograms.

Perhaps you can find a sponsor.

mfg

Elimar

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Antwort von deepcode:

I've seen the last few weeks synonymous and tested countless Tripods and I opted for a Cartoni Focus.
Conclusion:
- There are a host of "Fluidgedämpfter 'heads. But this says nothing - all these heads are cheap and designed to use any friction elements (Teflon disks, etc.) together with oil. So that no professional panning is possible. Subject usalle heads of Manfrotto, with the exception of the Manfrotto 519 (although I'm not sure as synonymous).
- Real gibts nur of Sachtler fluid heads, healers, Vinten, panthers, Cartoni and Miller.
- Counter Balance: Rarely observed - the opposing force des Neiges with sloping Camera. Without drag the camera would be tilting forward or backward - not a quiet steadiness because one must constantly counterforce. Nearly all real fluid heads in affordable price ranges (less than 1000 euros) have only one or a few selectable levels, or at best interchangeable springs for the CB. Thus, one must know exactly what camera relative to the head should be, because this has to be adjusted in each case for a specific weight.
- There are vo Sachtler and Cartoni entry-level models (Video 1, Action Pro). Hands off! Not bad, but no controls for damping and CB.A but still much better than a Manfrotto 501, 503, etc.

There is an exception in the affordable range: Cartoni Focus - a real fluid head 100mm ball Qualitatively equal to Sachtler, but with the advantage of variable; Counterbalance and continuously variable (!) Damping! price around 700 EUR. High quality, with about 2 n.aber not too heavy and the damping is incredibly good. Illuminated spirit level. Manufacturer heads of other similar costs double.
I was on it Usein DVX, a handle with the CB set accurately - the camera had himself almost exclusively for light attenuation with ONCE buttery fingers waving in every situation, and stood there perfectly calm! And on his head, I can create a featherweight HC1 as a severe EB perfect camera.
To cooperate with a good 100mm Carbon tripod is an investment that holds a lifetime n.perfekt and adapt to any camera can be under 10. So rather once in a lifetime 1000 EUR sacrifice. :-)

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Antwort von Robert Eder:

I will be here Manfrottoköpfe zusehr torn. Surely they are not the best, but if anyone one of HAMA is a Manfrotto 055PRO tripod comes with 501er and 503er first head many times.

Certainly this is not a professional tripod, but for cameras up to the xl2 can work so that at least some reasonable!

And this mix gibts for 250-300 ¬, even with pocket.

Although I work wenns important is synonymous with Sachtler, but if need be mobile Schnall I just Manfrotto s.der my small backpack.

It always depends on it s.was you want and how to proffessionell must really work.

Regards, Robert

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Antwort von marcus:

Hello Tommy,

I have recently, the Simbolon Video 300 directly from the manufacturer's site

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