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Frage von Auf Achse:


Hello!

I have before me go up a slider and got the following info found here in the forum:

http://forum.slashcam.de/diy-dslr-slider-zum-selber-zusammenbasteln-vp402832.html#402832

http://forum.slashcam.de/was-haltet-ihr-of-diesem-slider-system-vt78462.html


Are there any new findings, current and new low-cost provider, experience with the gliding, durability, precision, Prices ....

Does anyone have more links to field reports and film footage about the system used?

My slider was 120 - 150cm in length, synonymous like homemade solution as a machine shop there.
Has anyone ever thought about how to make these rails can be divided in order to better transport? -> Without the slide drüberrattert at the interfaces and the parts can be assembled accurately and stably.
The slider should be for a XH-A1 is sufficiently stable.

Thanks and regards,
On axis

(PS:. Please do not talk Slider vs Dolly .... and disadvantages are before, I am well aware)

Space


Antwort von soan:

Self-build is not a problem - simply by surfing at IGUS.

They have now even new bearings in the program. This should have in addition to the integrated Silicon-bearing an additional role give rise to particular "uniform" sliding.

http://www.igus.de/wpck/default.aspx?pagename=filmtechnology

Because the new hybrid bearing is clickable. I'll get well soon and will always have two slides here - the one with belt drive, the other with the new bearings for manual operation.

Space


Antwort von Auf Achse:

Hello!

Thanks for the tip with the hybrid bearing, which sounds like a real development. I've been on the igus Page herumgeschmökert but the hybrid camp, I've not yet discovered!
How have you resolved the matter with the tripod head? I want to be able to make synonymous steeply inclined camera movements. But a half-shell will not offer enough opportunities to balance the tripod head in a horizontal position to bring. I probably need for the tripod head to attach a ball head of the photography. But I am not happy with the overall height, the results from it .... to build towers is not very-shake ....
Could you maybe upload a few photos of your sliders ... THANK YOU!

LG, on-axis

Space


Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hi: www.com-videoshop.de

Just do not obstruct hybrid bearings, this role brings nothing but higher resistance. In such systems, better access to turnkey solutions.

Greetings!

Space


Antwort von Auf Achse:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: Just do not obstruct hybrid bearings, this role brings nothing but more resistance!

Why ... please give more explanation! How can a role to increase the resistance, the rolls * * yes only ...

LG, on-axis

Space


Antwort von Blackeagle123:

There are just differences between static friction and sliding friction. For ball bearings and hybrid bearings, the difference is greater, so s.Anfang jerky motion.

The role also takes away game and is only necessary for vertical travel, but not important for horizontal runs. Hybrid bearings make a horizontal ride so bad. Those who do not believe it, they buy or build a system yourself ;-) I do not recommend it.

These are just a few of many score, the better the movement with one system, with the other makes DIY system worse.

Greetings!

Space


Antwort von soan:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: Hi: www.com-videoshop.de

Just do not obstruct hybrid bearings, this role brings nothing but higher resistance. In such systems, better access to turnkey solutions.

Greetings!


Huh? These things are new and I will set them to me in any case - how can I choose between belt drive and Silicon camps or manual operation with hybrid bearings. For me, things look great. Why can higher resistance? Sounds illogical, the opposite should be the case.

PS: I have solved the problem with inclination angles:


I screwed on the sliding carriage a welded aluminum construction, this consists of sub-and top with a lever and can tighten at will. On top is the Statifkopf. Disadvantage: the leverage is very high, the slide may jam ggfalls. Advantage: all the angles of 0 to 85 ° can be realized. zum Bild

Space


Antwort von Auf Achse:

"Blackeagle123" wrote:
The role also takes away game and is only necessary for vertical travel, but not important for horizontal runs. Hybrid bearings make a horizontal ride so bad.


@ Black Eagle: does not sound implausible. Mir is still important, how do you know about this from personal experience -> have you tested the hybrid or even get you read this, said .. etc.

DIY Slider Why should in principle be worse than bought ready? If the linear system when the Bought and DIY of itself is quality, the DIY not be worse. The company offers the purchasing solution, the linear system synonymous (probably even the same manufacturer) bought and drilled the rest, milling, thread cutting, etc. ... I can synonymous.

@ Soan: Thanks for the sketch! This is virtually a one-dimensional tilt system to compensate for the upward and the slope of the slider. The overall height of which is the result gives me a headache as I said. And not without reason as you write ...

Greetings, on-axis

Space


Antwort von soan:

Hi,

correctly, the height is a critical point.

I have long thought about and have come to this conclusion:

Angle of 45 degrees or master with a low height yet, should, if steeper, the paper MUST have a certain minimum amount in order to create the necessary space for the camera plus tilt head. I also have to fit in with my Grabbelfingern as around the head on the shell level out.

Is the structure flat - gehts halt only to a certain angle.

Space



Space


Antwort von Blackeagle123:

These are facts that can be read directly in the data sheets. Otherwise, just call at Igus ;-)

For the money, what does a tap for 3 / 8 inch and 1 / 4 inch thread, you can buy you a complete system synonymous. That is synonymous thought out and you do nothing wrong. Guarantee do you have synonymous. My opinion.

Greetings!

Space


Antwort von Auf Achse:

Hello!

Thank you for introducing your concerns and suggestions, that's what I've sought.
In my case, it is both vocational training and other s.Selbst the joy - building that I'll probably not buy the ready-made slider. Except I'm finally to the realization that it is exactly what I imagine a good price is already finished.

LG, on-axis

Space


Antwort von soan:

My slider is 2.5 m long and can carry 15 Kg encouraging slide (Digibeta, XDCAM, etc) - buy yourself time with the belt drive and electric motor as a finished product. A laugh - under 1000 ¬ which is nothing. I am with all the bells and turn landed at 600 ¬ and more than happy with the money saved :-)

You should have time and nerves synonymous, a synonymous corresponding workshop should be there.

Space


Antwort von Auf Achse:

Hello!

What rail diameter has your system? I think when you enter the weight of the well-16mm. The weight of my XH-A1 + Micro should meet the 10/80er system. Thus, the carriage tilted as little as possible I will make it between 100 and 150mm length.
If your track in one piece or divided?
You work so only in a studio or outdoor synonymous? For when you need a power supply for the drive -> 12V or line voltage?
My system should be as portable (-> divided) be, it should fit in a pocket tripod.
On a drive for the time being I think not, but can be safely retrofitted with a manageable cost.

On axis

Space


Antwort von soan:

My rail is 2.5 meters long and is used on all three - that is, inside and outside. 20mm Rails on the 80 rail, not divisible. In most cases, a 1.5 m long rail would be enough, but one wants synonymous times high up :-)
As I slide the slide 200mm.

The system is portable (read: fits in my car), 12V camera batteries for the motor are connected via V-Mount. Remove the motor I can, I usually use a hand wheel for the belt.

Underneath, two tripods (one and a Manfrotto Sachtler). The rail is too heavy to be worn by a tripod of their own.

I can wear the thing loose anyway :-)

Space


Antwort von Blackeagle123:

More than 1000 ¬. So so ... ¬ 379 with all accessories and warranty.

http://com-videoshop.de/042f2d9d0e0cb2273/042f2d9d0e0cb677a/042f2d9d0f0097c16.php

10cm wide rail with high stability. Otherwise, I would buy a 2.0 m system so ego get in the car. Divisible, the rails are not true.


Greetings!

Space





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