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Frage von neuland67:


Hi, I'm looking for a possibility of HD movies s.Mac edit and unfortunately am not a computer professional.
So my film camera in the Sony AVCHD format on hard drive.
Now I need a format which s.Mac with iMovie to work. I had the opportunity synonymous with AVCHD format s.PC with the included Sony software to convert.

Only in what format?

Help and Thanks

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Antwort von nightworker:

Oh, the answer is simple: I do not.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote: Oh, the answer is simple: I do not.

Geht so. Is just not optimal.

1. With the included Sony software (on a PC or an Intel Mac with Boot Camp / Windows) and convert to Mpeg2 Schnigge: Does much quality flutes.

2. With an HDMI - Card Capture. Super quality, but what kind of requirements and costs for such a Cämchen!

No worry: In some years, the processing itself and so easily understandable as it is today of converting CDs to MP3. Until then: Wait or ebay (Christmas and the 19 are angry at the door).

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Antwort von mw:

And then there is the question, why not the same NEN camcorder is 300 euros, if you anyway to MPG2 goes down ... "optimal" is quite flattered.

300 ¬ for this high-end devices were just way, but in recent years plenty of buy recommendations here ...

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Antwort von neuland67:

Yes super, it is like Ferrari 125 drive with winter tires.
But yes I have patience. And the quality of the camera s.meinem LCD is worth every penny.
Thanks for your tips and dashing frohes Fest.

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Antwort von alfons:

That's it. Go easy on www.mac1080hd.com/ test and Voltaic. it bracuht an Intel Mac and OSX 10.4. War synonymous no quality loss

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Antwort von neuland67:

It saves my life!
The tool looks really good. Be it today ebnd equal test times.
Mille Grazie!

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Antwort von PowerMac:

With Final Cut Pro is the issue.

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Antwort von dehein2:

1. I see this correctly, the Voltaic AVCHD movies faster? compatible format without quality loss kovertiert?

2. There is something synonymous for Win?

Thank you

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Antwort von Chrimaschu:

http://blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

wird dann in ProRess422 eingespielt....

christoph

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Antwort von dehein2:

it is then yes ne hardware solution .. Software but I would prefer .. Thank you

Nevertheless, times ne question about the hardware, so would I be but synonymous 1:1 via HDMI, the material on play, right? As only in a different format without losing quality?!

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Quasi. If you restore ProRes422 is so synonymous the uncompressed video from the HDMI source in ProRes converted. DU can be synonymous DVCProHD format. The quality of it is already good.

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Antwort von glumschie:

"PowerMac" wrote: Quasi. If you restore ProRes422 is so synonymous the uncompressed video from the HDMI source in ProRes converted. ......

this is still the question whether, or sometimes. which the cam signal
uncompressed before the store on the HDMI output there ....
and whether it is again an alternative to black magic will be.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote: this is still the question whether, or sometimes. what cam signalunkomprimiert the front of the store on the HDMI output there ....
and whether it is again an alternative to black magic will be.
gruß cj
According FCP6 Manual (Final Cut Pro 6.0.1) can AVCHD via firewire * as Intermediate Codec or ProRes422 gecapturet (or is it on the hard drive copied and then converted after import?). The question is, how much you do in the entire post will invest. FinalCutStudio (1300 ¬) in Comparison with iMovie and iDVD as a Ferrari to a Kettcar with winter ;-)
* Habs I just read. Most AVCHD cams have USB. Ülkig, ülkig. Otherwise capture (record) is no longer needed, they say now transfer (transferring), but in principle the same.

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Antwort von cirrus:

HI,
depends precisely because my question: Final Cut Studio 2 can probably update with the latest AVCHD process. But I have not yet understood whether this change of the Sony World in the MAC world, a quality loss.
Furthermore, I am interested in whether MAC / Final Cut control can a CameraLink, which only has USB?
And, as a third: How do I control the transfer of individual takes, stacks, clips or how the individual records on the HDD synonymous hot, the Camera of the MAC? Complicated pressing of buttons here and there? Or drag and drop or something similar?

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Antwort von Axel:

"cirrus" wrote: HI,
depends precisely because my question: Final Cut Studio 2 can probably update with the latest AVCHD process. But I have not yet understood whether this change of the Sony World in the MAC world, a quality loss.
Furthermore, I am interested in whether MAC / Final Cut control can a CameraLink, which only has USB?
And, as a third: How do I control the transfer of individual takes, stacks, clips or how the individual records on the HDD synonymous hot, the Camera of the MAC? Complicated pressing of buttons here and there? Or drag and drop or something similar?
This is me right now too much evidence. Read here
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Antwort von cirrus:

Hi Axel,

Thank you for your quick reply. I unfortunately only get with a link or no link. Gehts noch mal anders?

Thank you

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Antwort von PowerMac:

The link goes ...

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Antwort von Axel:

Sorry, see here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305997
Also, a disadvantage would ever mention that the audio will be reduced to stereo.
Gecapturet ( "transferred") to be equal in ProRes, the new 10bit 4:2:2 codec, of which at least is aware that he native HDV material is preferable. Without the exact specs to know, say that AVCHD with approximately 12 Mbit is comparable with 25 MBit HDV. Since cutting is not only hard cuts but does render synonymous, it would thus no loss of quality, but the opposite.

But I make no Apple advertising. The thing is brand new, maybe just wait a few experiences of others.

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Antwort von cirrus:

Thanks Axel, have now opened all get. All very informative and, as you say, still very frsich. Waiting seems really useful.

Can you interpret the following text in the form, how long (how much) a "file size" on the "recording device" is:

Quote:
A spanned AVCHD clip is a clip that consists of two or more media files. Spanned clips are created whenever you record a single shot that exceeds the file size limit of the recording device.

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Antwort von Axel:

Apparently, a clip in AVCHD kameraseits only a certain length and must then be saved. So similar to DVD files that are shared, if the size of 1 GB is exceeded. Spanned clip, I would emotionally rather than multiple files distributed Clip understand. As synonymous with DVDs, you will the "surge" does not see (the one that jump is visible when a dual layer of the laser to the second layer umjustiert).

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Antwort von cirrus:

Hello Axel,
you have an idea how the "Full HV" data of the JVC GZ-HD7 in Final Cut Studio or Finacl Cut Express can bring?
And if so, what is it for a (qualitative) difference between the two recording formats?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Always: MPEG Streamclip.

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Antwort von Basti.S:

"cirrus" wrote: Hello Axel,
you have an idea how the "Full HV" data of the JVC GZ-HD7 in Final Cut Studio or Finacl Cut Express can bring?
And if so, what is it for a (qualitative) difference between the two recording formats?
How it works and whether it works, I know not synonymous, but Quote: " software for connecting computer s.Macintosh included seems to suggest that there must be a workaround. This can be harmless, or extremely complicated. Any format that of the standard, sometime need a transformation, tend to a memory-hungry codec.
For the resolution: should we have seen, it can be compared. I have the camera yet, but I would be now the 1080i very abnerven. Thus, it is boxes of 1920 x 540 pixels for HD playback (in varying quality on TV sets, to poor quality on the calculator) are deinterlaced. My camera is 1080i (x 1440 anamorphic), or 1080p. Although the latter only with a resolution loss (test card) of 10% can record, the interlace material always something vague from. That what these JVC in Width win away in the Height. But, as I said, you should experience after another with the search thing.
A Resolutionvon HD 720 is only incidentally of Full HD to distinguish when one is very close s.den screen or the screen goes. The lower but then even the best viewing distance. In movies, it happens ( "lock seat, neck breaking series"). The digital projection is there best Full HD, usually only 800 x 1920 (square pixels), if the film in the Scope format (Tranformers, Simpsons). I have long defended against HD because I am with size ratios of images through my daily work familiar. Nothing against high resolution, but "Full HD" is just a marketing trick. Make sure the camera is easy to use and makes nice pictures.

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Antwort von Basti.S:

.. perhaps an additional information on JVC .. Software ... This is just a plug-in for Quaicktime ... so are you still in any other codec ... and a transformation in the quality ResPro422 bingt nothing, certainly not an improvement, unless there are any uncontrollable Farbflanken After computer .... but which should be far removed. Because what they have in 4:2:0 already a sub-sampling has the calm you can capture in 4:4:4 again ... there is 4:2:0, the rest is just "gestuffed" ... and makes the file huge. What makes ResPro422 course, is the GOP's Resolutionder and thus the cutting ability ... otherwise maybe of interest: http://www.lulu.com/content/1018079
There's a lot of the problems ..

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Antwort von Axel:

Hello "Guest". Maybe, you know "Anonymous" wrote: ... and a transformation in the quality ResPro422 bingt nothing, certainly not an improvement, unless there are any uncontrollable Farbflanken After computer .... but which should be far removed. Because what they have in 4:2:0 already a sub-sampling has the calm you can capture in 4:4:4 again ... there is 4:2:0, the rest is just "gestuffed" ... and makes the file huge. What makes ResPro422 course, is the GOP's Resolutionder and thus the cutting ability ... but you have to explain ourselves. A lossless codec poor, which makes schnittfähig material and artifacts from recompression when rendering prevented (namely, it does ProRes422), brings "quality of nothing"? Oh yes, of after-Farbflanken computers keep us away happy, but we would like to edit our material.

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Antwort von cirrus:

Hello "Guest",
Thank you for the extensive reply. Many have or want to adopt and SDV of looking for the "HIGH"-D,-V, or DTV, or what ever synonymous. In your response you use the term "norm". Where is you who has it defined? Is it the subjective assessment of picture seen on a tube monitor or a synonymous as any kind of a computer flat screen. Or describing the standard type of signal recording, transmission, processing and output? Or we will all dance at many weddings?
Apart of the subjective assessment of a camera, its lens handling and am particularly interested in the possibility for one kind of synonymous "HIGH" level recorded images and on the way through the stations as little as possible losses specified.
I believe that for many people this is a fundamental problem. Who has the chance of several cameras with different units and post-production software tools to test? I would be freed of all previous product preferences, to each new letting Konstallation when it's so fit as described above.
But dreams can be formulated? Or?

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Antwort von Axel:

The guest with the "norm" was me, I will sometimes lately when sending banned. You will be with Mpeg2 at 1080x1920i just have difficulties, which in an NLE to get. It is very pleasant to be able to work natively, such as with HDV so for some time fluppt. With the JVC you with more security problems.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

I do not know what their current dispute. What are dreams?

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