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Frage von flex78:


Hi Folks

hab mal ne ask, have unfortunately over the search found nothing ..

Have a movie with the new SonyTG1 in 1920 x 1080 and would like included in this edit SonyVe 8 so SV8 not because the whole film must be re-render just the effect I wanted to render 1920 x 1080 ...
only goes so do not even Vegas can max the AVC render 1440 x 1080, why is this so, or do I think any error?

Please help ..

Gruss
Stephan

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Antwort von wolfgang:

If you mean the SonyAVC encoder do - then stimmts who can only 1440x1080 AVCHD. Blu Ray templates are, however, synonymous for 1920x1080 create, only we have no authoring tool, which could use these streams.

If you have the MainConcept AVC encoder thinkest, you're basically synonymous 1920x1080 - only it is even there to create a suitable template. It is rather outdated, very slowly, and will no longer be developed next.

If you have the Main Concept mpeg2 encoder do - you can of course synonymous 1920x1080, roughly synonymous for Blu Ray.

There is the variant, such as Blu Ray synonymous as mpeg2-HD 1920x1080 issue - or the MainConcept AVC encoder to use. So far, nothing about this sometime next Vegas 8c known - personally, I expect, however, that there is synonymous for 1920x1080 AVC will be integrated. More precisely, I hope so. Information about this but I have not yet, otherwise I should not say - is a purely personal conjecture.

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Antwort von flex78:

I just noticed that I'm a huge beginner, nähmlich did not understand much wircklich .. ;-)

Go now or not :-) gehts?

s.liebsten because I want to film in the same format as it is rendered as is the sony cam has so synonymous in the Sony AVCHD 1920 x 1080 format. Why can not because the software from the same house?

thanks for the reply ...

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Antwort von Marco:

Because 1920x1080 AVCHD format still quite fresh on the market and each is developing a software not Snip finger can be (is not the only feature of the software).

Vegas can not yet render 1920x1080 AVCHD and AVCHD yet it renders synonymous generally not without Neucodierung. That should answer your question clearly, if it is synonymous unfortunately is not what you've hoped for.

Marco

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Antwort von flex78:

achso! Now I geschnalt! :-)

nor mal ne ask other

if I have a video in 1920 x 1080 format at 1440x1080 it would render the building actually squeeze, right?
but that is not happening for me, well! but why?

I thank synonymous in advance for answering ..

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Antwort von WoWu:

Flex @ 78

If you do believe that your camera up to 1920x1080, then it is wrong at least you already s.dieser body.
Why is a NLE more than your camera?
Is not in the old purely FULLHD trick .... There is here as meter thread ....
Vegas may be at least as much as your camera ... So where is the problem?

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Antwort von Marco:

"October is not happening for me, well! but why?"

Because at 1440x1080 so the individual pixels in the stretched length, that the picture itself remains the same.

Marco

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Antwort von flex78:

@ wowu

why do you think the cam is not in the format of 1920x1080, which is Full HD?
And I must say I have to trust Sonydas when they claim that it is a full HD cam is that it is synonymous ...

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Antwort von Marco:

Recording do it. But what they do before the recording is another matter ...

Marco

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Antwort von WoWu:

Flex @ 78

I want you there but do not disillusion from a chip with 2.3 Mpix get not even a rudimentary out.
Afterwards, you can interpolate everything possible to make out, but no details 1920x1080.
I am happy you like the times before, if you want.
But your camera is in good company ... because it is not the only one. With this "FullHd" is really only the customer wrong. Initial again FullHD 1080p EICTA is of the well defined so that little more "cheat" is possible .... why not use it synonymous company, but to invent their own "similar" fancy logo.
Currently I am in the consumer market, not a single camera, which dissolves 1920x1080.

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Antwort von flex78:

where is the mage TG1 a 2.3 chip in it has?

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Marco

Quote: Recording done it

Of course not, because that would only unnecessarily increase the bandwidth and thus worthy to occupy space .... why? Recorded only the minimal resolution .... Space is tight in the recorders. Reduced data rate and therefore trumps.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Flex @ 78

Quote: where is the mage TG1 a 2.3 chip in it has?

Sony .....

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921665400969&langId=-1

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Antwort von flex78:

So the sharpness and Quality on my LCD convinced me anyway!

with what a resolution will be recorded?

PS: Thanks for the Aufklährung :-)

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Antwort von Marco:

If even the lower recording Resolutionhat how to create it then, the processing systems in accordance with pure file transfer, file s.der where nothing is changed to make it as accurate geometry 1920x1080 read out? Helps the file headers to make the systems to "convince"? So what stands in the header other than what is actually there?

Marco

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Antwort von WoWu:

Flex @ 76

This varies slightly with the used Farbmaske but usually do not come the Resolutions on the lean times but the 1440 is already interpolated.
I hab'das times for 2 Mpix with Bayer mask chosen: around 1142 pixels horizontally. (Square pixels underlying)

And as far as the sharpness of your image is concerned .... impression of sharpness is not done primarily through the Resolutionsondern describes is essentially determined by the contrast of the image content (Heynacher Integral), (reinforced by the contrast of the edge sharpening effect).
So can a CameraLink perfectly sharp pictures, so they must be far from the advertised resolution Was.

But main thing is that you're so happy .... I'd only just synonymous no unnecessary requirements s.das represent NLE.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Marco

1440 has the SD MPEG2 headers and is not required by the standard, that is not necessarily synonymous to "non-square pixels are set.
The 16 tokens can be arbitrarily occupied and additionally I can about the 12 open slots in the AR-signaling Tables practically everything (which, unfortunately, is made synonymous, because s.das None SMPTE RP 187 paper holds.

You can not forget that we are dealing with an SD MPEG2 specification in 1440 to do, no preference whether the coat under the AVC runs.
Only in MPEG-4/H.264-AVC we have it with more precision to do.

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Antwort von flex78:

sorry if I'm as amateur dazwischn come again, but the cam is yes in MPEG-4/H.264-AVC format to mpeg2 and not, as thou hast erklährt marce ..

or is because of what the others talking about ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

Flex @ 78

I understand your objection, but it is "only" to the specification of MPEG2, but not the codec .... which is already H.264.
I admit, this is a bit confusing but the MPEG format only describes the transport container. What you think is the codec, so the editing tools reflecting MPEG2 and MPEG4 obviously differ greatly.
So have you seen absolutely right. The quality you get from H.264, no doubt.
But Sonyunterstützt together with the Panasonic AVCHD format. They "cheat" the slightly under the H.264 coat.
In reality, however, it is by default and not yet covered a leftover from the SD time (just like the HDV2)

In fact, one can but synonymous within the H.264 still cheat because unless the used profiles and especially the level is called, which is used for each room as interpolation.

It is clear that the chip no matter how generous a spatial fact Resolutionvon 1920x1080 being made to ensure this was.
Whether that is now on the way 1440 and anamorphic pixels or dots on quadratic interpolation is actually secondary.
I do, however, that there are over 1440 runs, because all the software manufacturers on old evidence could fall back and not only transfers new format had to be arranged.

But in substance, since you have absolutely right, the camera uses the tools of H.264.

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Antwort von Marco:

Oha. Amazing.

Marco

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Antwort von flex78:

woow this is a complicated topic! :-)

Have you studied, or work to tuhn?

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Antwort von WoWu:

Both as synonymous ... but it is not really complicated. You need it only once have understood .... There is just such books.

Now go back all the triangle, because I am advertising for my book do ... However, video technology is now a complex issue with many dependencies, and only the holistic approach leads to a really good result.

In any case, have fun with the Camera (neat part, incidentally).

Space



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