SonyHDR-CX700VE: stagnation or regression to the previous model CX550?
Frage von PGJ: März 2011
Hi,
Not too long ago I've bought a SonyCX550 and was synonymous with this very satisfied. But then I had to admit that a new range of Sony has been published: The CX700VE.
Yesterday I got the package with this outrageously expensive camera (; ¬ 1279.99) and have to say that I'm really disappointed.
Here are some criticisms: LYRICS: I thought that the microphone will be better than the 700 at the 550th In the case of the 550 the sound was very quiet and has a 1,5 m distance you hardly understand someone ... let alone he / she even stands with his back to the Camera! Unfortunately, it has not improved here ... the microphone is simply inefficient. Good can this be fixed by the MIC-in somewhat, but the input is on CX700VE positioned exactly unhappy with the palm so that you can no longer hold the camera.
Display: Unfortunately, I have defective pixels on the display of CX700 and therefore found a synonymous returned the camera. Hopefully this is not a general problem in the series. I think it's also a pity that the screen size has been reduced! The size of the CX550 I found very best.
Size: The camera is small and has become easier in Comparison to its predecessor. But I feel now as so easy that it yields the smallest touch on the tripod and thus the image is shifted slightly.
Night Shot: Here I was really frightened. On the good quality of Night Shot has really done nothing, but it seems as if a part of the infrared cut off the top panel on the left. You have to imagine it as it would on the Night Shot image is always in the top right corner still a black shadow. Although one can compensate by HVL-HIRL, but is not synonymous intention.
Speakers: These are in my opinion the 700 maximum limit! At each instant beep is heard a noise, what nachtönt in the speakers. Even if you look at the videos on the display a constant noise is heard, the speaker (but only if synonymous sound is heard). Moreover, these sound very dull and there is the mono speaker of CX550 significantly better.
Image Quality: The CX 700 offers but 25p, 50i and 50p, but a really big difference in the WOW-effect would have led one to, she could not win with me. Cinematone could help not synonymous.
Only a brief summary of the comparison of CX700VE and the CX550: Pro CX700VE + Slightly better picture quality + Longer battery life + Battery can be charged via USB (; display and viewfinder to / from Camera) + Zebra and peak function + Faster and more accurate autofocus than CX550
Counterproductive CX700VE: - Pixel error on display - Display size is less than CX550 - Night Shot in the upper left corner is cut off - Speaker of noise when playing sounds - GPS is not switched off by pressing a button - IAuto not automatically activated by pressing a button (; must always be set to display) - Price (; worthwhile for the price difference to anything CX550) - Built-in microphone is still not improved! - Mic-In and Audio In poorly placed: Direct from the handle area.
I Can others confirm this impression of the camera synonymous or am I just happen to fall Monday s.ein model? The CX700 would be good for a purchase price of 900 ¬, but you believe that in the near future that will achieve price?
PS: For those interested, there are now synonymous some test videos on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/res
Antwort von hubomo:
hmm since you can only abwarten.Kann more tests I do not actually really think that the only minimally better become ist.Wie looks with low light shots? and are at an initial focal length of 26.3 mm distortion s.Rand watch? With The display will you have probably just had bad luck. LG
Antwort von PGJ:
So the low light performance is as great as in the CX550. Previously, I had a JVC GZ-HM330 eineCanonHF and 200 and both were really bad in low light of the representation.
Very sad synonymous is the "cut" view in NightShot (see above). Then the rushing speakers and the picture quality hardly better leave me the price of ¬ 1279 but very question.
So with 50p you could tell that the representation is more fluid (especially camera pans). But as I said: The picture quality has in my opinion do not improve for the CX550.
Antwort von hubomo:
hmm, that would be really mies.s.welchem TV or monitor with what size do you have for the cam connected? I have at the moment still the ne xr500.will verkaufen.hmmm actually due to the CX700
Antwort von PGJ:
"Hubomo" wrote:
hmm, that would be really mies.s.welchem TV or monitor with what size do you have for the cam connected? I have at the moment still the ne xr500.will verkaufen.hmmm actually due to the CX700
I have s.meinem Dell 22 "TFT connected.
So I get similar footage, I put the camera with a tripod in my hallway and the same position of the camera can pick up the corridor. The CX700 is indeed a fine of the image display, but far no400 + worth more than the CX550. Night Shot I have tried the hallway synonymous, as can be seen in this normal with the Night Shot to only slightly more (synonymous got the test shots taken at night, is that almost no light in the hallway). To test that might occur an improvement in an infrared amplification by the SonyHVL-HIRL, I have this synonymous mounted on the CX550 and CX700 ... Unfortunately, both the same image. So what Night Shot As the cameras are pretty identical.
So if the camera would cost 900 or even 1000 ¬, I could say more, then it would be a good price / performance ratio, as the CX700 my opinion, the CX550 is very similar (up to 50i, 50p, slightly different menu structure and slightly finer Image, as well as 96 GB of internal memory). But that "bothers" me formally that you pay about 1279 ¬ needs to be lit for a camera in the upper left corner in Night Shot, may have a defective pixels on the small screen, lousy speakers hat and no improvement in Microphone offers.
My Conclusion: CX700 for the price of 900-1000 = appropriate CX700 at the current price of around ¬ 1279 = not acceptable and no real successor to the CX700.
Who knows: Where Sony to launch new products anyway much too high Prices. The CX550 is synonymous start at 1399 Euro and is now at 900th The CX700 will probably be synonymous after a few months so far: http://gh.de/?phist=606492
It would be nice if others would speak in more people here for the Camera. After all, these are all subjective impressions.
Antwort von hubomo:
I still have my XR500 cam s.nem pc monitor (; samsung 1080p 23 " ) And TV s.meinem (; kdl40hx805 sony 40 ") and try find the picture quality circulations sony tv much better than aufem monitor.ich think therefore that the size and quality of the tvs and monitors synonymous ne play a role as well to come off the picture quality. is it true that this time nofernbedienung included or are noinfrarotschnittstelle s.der cam available? how do you find the attached USB cable s.der cam?
Antwort von PGJ:
"Hubomo" wrote:
I still have my XR500 cam s.nem pc monitor (; samsung 1080p 23 " ) And TV s.meinem (; kdl40hx805 sony 40 ") and try find the picture quality circulations sony tv much better than aufem monitor.ich think therefore that the size and quality of the tvs and monitors synonymous ne play a role as well to come off the picture quality. is it true that this time nofernbedienung included or are noinfrarotschnittstelle s.der cam available? how do you find the attached USB cable s.der cam?
It is a remote control while at the Camera. It is exactly the same remote control, as with the HDR-CX550. Both work by infrared synonymous and the signal is completely the same: I was able to operate with the remote control of the CX700 CX550.
The infrared (; for Night Shot) is still available, but has as mentioned above nogleichmäßige illumination (; in the upper left corner is missing a piece).
As a nice little bonus is even a cover for the optics, so that the light not so much thinking of: http://img2.magnus.de/Sony-CX-690-r937x563-C-e0abb0d0-42096801.jpg
You just plug in and turn s.einem controller, which then tightens s.der Camera. Disadvantage: The Tower is synonymous the infrared sensor for night shot and covered so you can forget Night Shot with this paper (but who needs a sunscreen for Optics at night:-P). There is no protective plastic or protective glass for the optics in this paper!
To the USB port: The cable is very short ... damn short ... so it's probably best if you connect the camera s.ein notebook, but as soon as the USB port is greater than 2 cm above the camera height or 5 cm away than the next camera width is difficult. But that has been well considered Sonysynonymous and enclosed a USB Extenders.
For those interested, The standard video, which is available as a preview to the camera, it is synonymous with Youtube:
As you can see the pretty synonymous USB cable length of CX700ve.
Antwort von hubomo:
the video I've already looked at me:). maybe you are you having a real assembly device - 1b ware erwischt.das with the error but is infrared synonymous net normal, right? the attached USB cable is therefore a matter of habit but ne sein.gut the remote included - would be synonymous NEN unding if not. How is it with the expanded focus.ist the s.bord? according slashcam she did so.
Antwort von heimax:
I got the camera now synonymous.
Erstzer impression is shared. Optical falls Comparison with the XR out of 500 is not very positive. Of the type more likely to compare her with the CX 520 which I sold.
In a comparative recording with the XR 500, both cameras mounted on a fall in the Schine Comparison enormous Wide Angleauf.
The recording quality seems roughly comparable with the XR 500. A significant improvement is not visible. However, assessed only at the 26-inch monitor of the computer.
Connectors for headphones and micro are such that they are only in operation or stand with the Pro Foddis useful.
Generel's clear to me, the camera is there, but only because the Wide Angleund the hood, which I find very good.
The menu has wiedergeänder the technicians at Sony already, but this time it has become really easier, because the division into topics I find very good. Only I can set up a personal menu of MeHe for me the important points I am sorry.
More later, now calls the work. Message mags
Antwort von mikemayers:
Hi,
have after the disaster with the contaminated Lens 1st Camera now get my second copy - fits all here now. With the CX550 I can not compare directly, but with a HC7 and a FX1000. All I can write more later, it still needs to be filmed and try everything. The first impression of the image quality is for me schonmal positive.
What I do find remarkable is the huge internal memory of 96 GB. I think a cam is looking mainly to their needs, so it is of exactly what I need. At concerts, festivals and day-long weddings can finally shoot without worrying about space, the need to make cards or tape changes. A memory card is actually not at first necessary. The menu pleases to me very well, as does the ability to determine quickly pressed the button to manual operation of the control dial.
I find the display very well synonymous and sharp, but it would have been really welcome if Sonybei would have been the 3.5 inch of the pre-series, really bad. The cam is very small and light, I find that synonymous borderline, with a little more "in hand" you can shoot better.
Absolute class is the image stabilization, the "Active Shot Mode" I knew him yet. The Night Shot function causes synonymous with me quite a non-uniformly illuminated image with shaded edges. Depending on whether residual light is present or not, varies the "infrared illumination. This can improve the HC7, I think - but this point is of no interest to me.
Zebra and Peak are important to me and present me the built-in speakers are no preference. When it roars as the beep, the less likely to be the electronics, as the MP3 file is played, I guess. As tragic as I do not think so. Overall, the cam would still 100 - to 150, - EUR may cost less, that's probably true. In view of the huge memory I think it is but just bearable. My needs are met in full, unless the next day out, with the image quality, everything is in balance. The cam has some for themselves, if one positive and negative can stake out its requirements.
Regards, Mike
Antwort von jakson1958:
Hello! The first assessments of the new SONY CX700 are very "mixed", not to say some bad. Unfortunately there are still synonymous nowhere a (; comparative) review of the Sony CX700.
I have a Sony SR 12 and now want a new cam as soon as possible.
At first I thought s.die 3-chip Panasonic SD 909 (; od.TM900) ... but has, according to test - Still the audible fan noise - A tremor in the focal center (?) As test - Very weak (; dark) at low light (so, please see the video asset digital 3 / 2011, page 19)
Just got the Panasonic SD 909 in the media market more accurately compared with the SonyCX550. Both held nebeneinader. The Pan SD 909 had during the swing, only mud and streaks on the screen and the colors were not original (; orange seemed almost dark red). In the same pan you could see the Sony 550 still all good and even read the scriptures. Identical colors total. Fast Auto Focus, etc.
Except for the menu navigation, the Sony 550 like me much better than the new Pan SD 909th
Unfortunately, you could not tell me when MM, s.wann the new Sony CX 700 is available. Statement of the seller: "... maybe in 4-5 weeks, but now with the disaster in Japan, it can lead to longer synonymous Lieferengpäßen"
S.Euch question:
What do you think, Am I right with my assessment that the SONY CX700 is better than the Pan SD909? ... and there is an even better alternative to the Sony CX700? ... but please only with 50p.
Thanks for your opinion.
Greetings jakson
Antwort von PGJ:
"Jakson1958" wrote:
Hello! The first assessments of the new SONY CX700 are very "mixed", not to say some bad. Unfortunately there are still synonymous nowhere a (; comparative) review of the Sony CX700.
I have a Sony SR 12 and now want a new cam as soon as possible.
At first I thought s.die 3-chip Panasonic SD 909 (; od.TM900) ... but has, according to test - Still the audible fan noise - A tremor in the focal center (?) As test - Very weak (; dark) at low light (so, please see the video asset digital 3 / 2011, page 19)
Just got the Panasonic SD 909 in the media market more accurately compared with the SonyCX550. Both held nebeneinader. The Pan SD 909 had during the swing, only mud and streaks on the screen and the colors were not original (; orange seemed almost dark red). In the same pan you could see the Sony 550 still all good and even read the scriptures. Identical colors total. Fast Auto Focus, etc.
Except for the menu navigation, the Sony 550 like me much better than the new Pan SD 909th
Unfortunately, you could not tell me when MM, s.wann the new Sony CX 700 is available. Statement of the seller: "... maybe in 4-5 weeks, but now with the disaster in Japan, it can lead to longer synonymous Lieferengpäßen"
S.Euch question:
What do you think, Am I right with my assessment that the SONY CX700 is better than the Pan SD909? ... and there is an even better alternative to the Sony CX700? ... but please only with 50p.
Thanks for your opinion.
Greetings jakson
Here you had a list of cameras that can 1920x1080p: http://gh.de/?cat=dvcam&xf=209_1920x1080p&sort=p
Unfortunately, the descriptions are too vague, so the CX700 is not listed in a search for 50p. If I should judge on the fast, seems dieCanonXA10 to be pretty good. The costs ¬ 1700 but already synonymous. As one can better the Sony and get a lot of equipment until you reach that amount. I also do not think much of Canon I've bought a HF 200 and the behavior at low light has been catastrophic. Well, the xa10 but has now synonymous infrared such as the Sony ;-). Oddly synonymous, dassCanonso super offers many models that are different but hardly of one another.
Regarding. Test your pan: The CX700 does really good swing with 50p images. The motion looks very fluid and sharp from ... Already so as you would use a camera crane. Unless the cut infrared light, placed in MIC stupid, rushing speakers and the small screen would be, I would give the CX700 a clear buy recommendation.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"PGJ" wrote:
... If I should judge on the fast, dieCanonXA10 seems to be pretty good ...
NoCanonnimmt to 1080p50.
Antwort von PGJ:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"PGJ" wrote:
... If I should judge on the fast, dieCanonXA10 seems to be pretty good ...
NoCanonnimmt to 1080p50.
Oh, right. The xa10 can take "only" in 25p. Thanks for the note!
* Edit: But something else for the 500 ¬ difference to XA10: For 500 ¬ you can eliminate a great lack of CX700: The Microphone.
For 169 ¬ you get the Rode Stereo Videomic (; including real wind protection): http://gh.de/a229568.html
But you have to buy yet an adapter to mount the microphone on the special sony boot: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200585791931&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
This one has not yet reached the 500 ¬. That is, you could still buy a sony lamp (; HVL-HIRL -> IR simultaneously gain) and a spare battery.
Where we are non-Sony accessories especially for the installation of: Does anyone know another good adapter for the sony special shoe, which is the normal shoe ready? And does anyone know if it is possible to use the shoe of Sonyzu (; eg SonyHVL-HIRL) to control and also a non-Sony product / mount (; eg og micro)?
Antwort von jakson1958:
[/ Quote] If that does not cut off infrared light, placed in MIC stupid, rushing speakers and the small screen would be, I would CX700 give a clear buy recommendation. [/ Quote]
Hello!
- Cut off infrared light = IRL I have never needed
- Stupid-placed micro = would not bother me
- Built-in speakers rushing anyway = Mini-Lautsprecherchen not I need, I refined the process s.PC
- The small 3 "screen ok = 3.5 would be nice, but I can live with 3 synonymous," can still see quite well :-)
Total: definite buy recommendation for CX 700!
I have me the low light in You Tube ninth comparisons between Sony 550 and Pan. considered. What madness for differences. The position where the total Sharp SONY + bright + clear in darker situations reflects, is the Panasonic 9th .. (; Eg TM900) really only "night"! GOOD NIGHT Panasonic I can say.
My new one is therefore quite clear that Sony CX700.
Greetings
jakson
Antwort von Büschel:
I had a few questions:
1. What then are the specific differences between CX690 and CX700? According to Sony, the CX690 is synonymous Page 96GB memory. The CX700 also take on the GPS module. So far I thought the CX690 has no memory. Demand that such a charge in a real GPS module? 2. You can set the camera for sharpness, saturation, etc.? As with Panasonic? Would be reasonable for the price IMHO. 3. Is there any noise in a quiet environment? Expected for the price not be. 4. If the viewfinder useful? After all, he resolves to something higher than that of Panasonic. 5. How about with third-party batteries? The type is indeed the same, but the CX130 bucked around the camera with a FV100 replica. I do not know if this could be a problem of the 2011er series.
And then to be seen whether some cameras have a Pfeifproblem? See here:
The uploader says its the would have?
Antwort von heimax:
I have the CX 700 since Friday last week.
1. After the Sony page it should be distinguished GPS and View Finder, the two models.
2. Unfortunately not, but for me this is not a criterion, I edit notfals in the mail.
3. Absolutely noStörgeräusche heard.
4. The view finder is useful for me.
Fremdakus are not my thing, so I do not know that. But to my knowledge, the acoustics of the V Series a chip.
I would immediately buy the CX 700 again.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
If one of the CX700-owner ever checked how it looks with the manual exposure options? I just can hardly believe indeed, but suspect reviews from other forums and let the user that it is not possible, both independently as synonymous Aperture closure time of each other. Not yet at least once a store of auto exposure there seems to be determined, so that a readjustment of the brightness can not seem to avoid when someone / something moving through the image. Can someone please refute? It would be a shame if an otherwise great camera would need not only because of such a nonsense for reasonably serious work.
Antwort von PGJ:
"Bernard E." wrote:
If one of the CX700-owner ever checked how it looks with the manual exposure options? I just can hardly believe indeed, but suspect reviews from other forums and let the user that it is not possible, both independently as synonymous Aperture closure time of each other. Not yet at least once a store of auto exposure there seems to be determined, so that a readjustment of the brightness can not seem to avoid when someone / something moving through the image. Can someone please refute? It would be a shame if an otherwise great camera would need not only because of such a nonsense for reasonably serious work.
Unfortunately, I have the CX700 not (; sent back because of the pixel error), so I can not make noAussage.
But it looks like, you can only adjust a setting like this review manual shows
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"PGJ" wrote:
... How it looks, you can only adjust a setting like this review manual shows ...
This video can there really expect anything good ... at annoying. Thanks for the link!
Antwort von jakson1958:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"PGJ" wrote:
... How it looks, you can only adjust a setting like this review manual shows ...
This video can there really expect anything good ... at annoying. Thanks for the link!
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... I fully agree! A multi-manual adjustment is not possible? I would find synonymous not good. On the other hand, I see for me currently. noAlternative for CX700.
jakson
Antwort von PGJ:
Auh the Cx / xr 550 offered noMöglichkeit adjust the manual settings individually. This will probably save Sonyfür his professional cameras. But I think this should be possible for a camera for ¬ 1270.
Antwort von mikemayers:
Hi,
Unfortunately I can confirm that synonymous. Exposure, Aperture and shutter speed are interdependent in a way that can only adjust each parameter A manual. If you switch to another, the previously set to AUTO is back and what you chose was for the ... Popo (Focus and White balance but, of course, regardless of variable). It is synonymous no preference whether the settings by menu or by wheel are made. At least it's quick and good to settle on the wheel, the "personal menu", such as still exists in the HC7 it any more.
Very sad, according to Sony what the terms "creative control", I feel there already a bissel kidding before - synonymous given the price. Probably the ussynonymous with the multitude of other "auxiliary features," will hang together. I'm going to hope for the future on a new firmware with an improved manual mode would be illusory.
Regards, Mike
Antwort von hubse:
Hi,
I've looked at the Low Light grade in the Slashcam camcorder database dieCanonXA10 that SonyCX550 and Panasonic SD909.
Looking at Low Light to those who have made automatic mode in, then look at the Sony really better than Panasonic and about equally well with the Canon.
If you look at pictures of those in the optimized mode (with manual white balance) were made - then watched the Sonyum lot worse than any other, even worse than the old Panasonic SD 707th
I can not imagine that the testers of slashcam set something wrong ...
Could it be that the Sony only really good in automatic mode LowLight recordings hinbekommt?
Greetings,
hubs
Antwort von Bernd E.:
As it now is indeed the case that the CX700 is missing this important function, the RF ofCanonwieder G10 is interesting. If you have to indeed give up 1080p50 (would have been nice but not necessary), but otherwise it looks good: not least because its for a camera of this size unusual at the same time many controls and the ability to both SD Card be recorded.
Antwort von jakson1958:
> > > ... does anyone of you, when your camcorder test of the SONY CX 700 here in slashCAM come from?
The CX 700've already purchased some private, but then would try to get a slashcam synonymous.
I can not understand what a survey on the CX700 is here (or, better than CX 550 - YES / NO -), but when almost no one has the cam and there is no test nor synonymous.
Greetings
jakson
Antwort von PGJ:
"Jakson1958" wrote:
> > > ... does anyone of you, when your camcorder test of the SONY CX 700 here in slashCAM come from?
The CX 700've already purchased some private, but then would try to get a slashcam synonymous.
I can not understand what a survey on the CX700 is here (or, better than CX 550 - YES / NO -), but when almost no one has the cam and there is no test nor synonymous.
Greetings
jakson
The survey is so synonymous intended to a) people who already have a CX550 / XR550 clarify whether a switch is worth b) to clarify that Sony has to offer not a whole lot new in the new camcorder series.
Should also be precisely reported here private people. Tests are sometimes not as meaningful (; is synonymous always depends on the source): For example, according to Stiftung Warentest dieCanonHF 200 is a super nice camera. I got myself down to synonymous and I was totally shocked when I found out that the camera clearly already at slightly lower light breaks in image quality. Even a JVC GZ-HM330 could dieCanonschlagen in low light.
One can only hope that soon synonymous Slashcam the CX700 tests. For the tests of Slashcam I trust what I purchase at the CX550 have noticed synonymous and am grateful for this page.
If you look around on the camcorder market, there is actually only a special model that all the features of the CX700; offers, but has the advantage that manual adjustments can be made (including infrared for night vision!): DieCanonXA10 (; synonymous convicted of Slashcam very good!). However, one is then synonymous already in a completely different price segment (; in 1799 ¬). DieCanonaber for a much better sound quality has s.Werk what the CX700 must be retrofitted but (; for example, with a Rode Stereo VideoMic + 20 ¬ adapter for the Sony shoe). For the price difference of 500 ¬ between the CX700 and derCanonkönnte one but a big accessory package for the Sony Get ... only the individual manual adjustment of individual parameters is not hammer out the Sony.
But when you see Staring the XA10 (;
you will have but likes ;-). However, in 1799 ¬ has a very crisp for XLR price, better micro and individual setting.
Antwort von jakson1958:
PGJ with quote
The survey is so synonymous intended to a) people who already have a CX550 XR550 / have to clarify whether a switch is worth b) to clarify that non Sony camcorder in the new series has to offer many new things much. One can only hope that soon synonymous Slashcam the CX700 tests. For the tests of Slashcam I trust .....
Clear (you sly Meier), a survey should reflect the opinion / experience of participants, so that third parties have a policy for self-assessment. This will include a more significant meaning and purpose of a survey.
I do not question, but the present moment!
1) How many private individuals have owned the CX700? (She has a wg. Pixelfehler sent back)
2) Where the test is here in slashCAM or elsewhere?
ALSO ... if you can at the moment if you please binding FACTS - FACTS - FACTS put on the table and then participate in a survey that has earned its name? That's all in the moment a suspect in the fog and poking around. Including you wait here on the test.
Therefore, I think this survey is currently fully komen senseless and premature!
So, it has no choice but to wait for a test's or later to test the cam itself.
About me: I try hard in the few days here CX700 local retailers or MM or Saturn purchase. None of them can deliver immediately. A binding delivery date is not even possible. So I must wait with the purchase .... unfortunately. Internet purchase is not an option for me, I buy out of principle always the spot for my brands. And something else besides: DieCanonXA10 has no50p, so for me noAlternative.
Greetings
jakson
Antwort von heimax:
I have the CX 700 has a little more than a week. Unfortunately the weather was always when I had time, not suitable for filming. But the few shots I could make, I have fully convinced the right thing to have bought.
I compare with the XR 500, which still had less Einstellmöglickeiten. The mere Wide Angleist value it, to say nothing of 50p. Those who do not necessarily want to shoot everything in manual with the CX 700 is operated safely pack very well.
We have more rain this weekend, so again, nothing with reasonable shots.
Antwort von jakson1958:
SONY CX bought 700!
As I have written 2 hours, could now provide None for me on the spot.
I therefore called on again just in my "big market".
As of today, 19.3.11 / about 11 clock, Internet request of the dealer at Sony: "red", ie, delivery is not possible and not synonymous in sight .... but ... the "big market" can me a new original packaging of a other branch, obtain the Cam. have received the first straight. TOLL - I of course immediately "struck" and can pick them up in about 3-4 days. Am very happy already!
Greetings
jakson
Antwort von heimax:
I bought the camera in the consumer Internet, went ahead and ordered to be known for at Micro Spot in dersch weiz. I needed another second, because I had sold the CX 520th Without knowing whether it is worth only the information on the SonyHP were available. Now I've decided to sell the XR 500 because the recordings can not be combined (wide angle). I will probably than 2 Camera, sometimes necessary for seminars, a CX 160 set. Greetings from rainy Switzerland.
Antwort von PGJ:
Since my first CX700 pixels flawed I have returned. Now I have ordered me a new one and let's see whether the degree of error (; eg rushing speaker) did not. I also bought myself a Rode Stereo VideoMic (; + sony shoe adapter of course), plus how to get better sound from the images synonymous.
Maybe I'm synonymous a video review on the camera.
Antwort von jakson1958:
"Heimax" wrote:
I have the CX 700 has a little more than a week.
Hello heimax,
I would like to know if my previous external stereo microphone SONY ECM HST 1 on the new SONY CX700 still work? Micro -> http://www.sony.de/product/cac-microphones/ecm-hst1
I've been on the Cam. SONY SR12 used.
According to Sony, the Micro is compatible with the CX550, so I hope it remains synonymous with the new CX700 so?
Thank you.
jakson
Antwort von heimax:
My Micro, which I've used with the SR 11 is fit on the CX 700 and does it work excellently. I have all the conditions, the ECM HST 1, that would fit your synonymous. However, I had to buy the reserve Akus new, only the new Charger fits well with the acoustics.
Antwort von jakson1958:
"Heimax" wrote:
My Micro, which I've used with the SR 11 is fit on the CX 700 and does it work excellently. I have all the conditions, the ECM HST 1, that would fit your synonymous. However, I had to buy the reserve Akus new, only the new Charger fits well with the acoustics.
Hello heimax, Thank you for your answer!
SUPER - the Micro fits so before.
Your Charger fits synonymous with the orig. Batteries. Do you have the same batch as me?
Here is my: http://www.sony.de/product/cac-batteries---chargers/ac-vqh10
THANK YOU!
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
Antwort von heimax:
Yes the same.
Greetings from rainy Switzerland.
PS My wife is from Bavaria synonymous. But Bavaria
Antwort von jakson1958:
"Heimax" wrote:
Yes the same.
Greetings from rainy Switzerland.
PS My wife is from Bavaria synonymous. But Bavaria
... yes that's there's not, we not only have the same charger, but:
My wife is from Bavaria synonymous. Also from Bavaria!
I'm low Bayer.
Greetings to Switzerland
jakson
Antwort von PGJ:
Today is my 2nd CX700VE arrived and again it'll be trouble ... When unpacking the optical shutter was half-way open, but after an on-and off the camera has closed this reasonable. A pixel error has had the display not synonymous, synonymous with this camera but I find that the Nightshot view is not illuminated in the upper left corner. So it is literally cut off. For a camera that costs ¬ 1239 and Night Shot identifying them as special features, I can surely expect that this is evenly lit ....
Well, I'm going to try next and I already plan to do a pro and contra to set up the camera, for a total purchase recommendation, I can not give it.
Antwort von jakson1958:
"PGJ" wrote:
Today is my 2nd CX700VE arrived and again it'll be trouble ... When unpacking the optical shutter was half-way open, but after an on-and off the camera has closed this reasonable. A pixel error has had the display not synonymous, synonymous with this camera but I find that the Nightshot view is not illuminated in the upper left corner. So it is literally cut off. For a camera that costs ¬ 1239 and Night Shot identifying them as special features, I can surely expect that this is evenly lit ....
Well, I'm going to try next and I already plan to do a pro and contra to set up the camera, for a total purchase recommendation, I can not give it.
... I'm sorry for you! Nothing is worse than when you are on a new cam. happy and then one is disappointed when unpacking already. Perhaps it is still alive!
I should get my new CX700 synonymous in a few days and then you'll Comparison to my experience, inform (Night Shot, etc.). Possibly. which I know has the whole series?
By the way, today someone gave me of the SonyHXR-MC 50 and tells me wonder why I have not ordered me. My answer: I knew not that it gives! I have heard of this model never - is the new better than the CX700? You know something before SonyMC 50?
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"Jakson1958" wrote:
... Today ... has anyone of the HXR-MC 50 and told me asked me why I do not have ordered the ... is the new better than the CX700? ...
The question should rather be, nor who
Antwort von jakson1958:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"Jakson1958" wrote:
... Today ... has anyone of the HXR-MC 50 and told me asked me why I do not have ordered the ... is the new better than the CX700? ...
The question should be more of who or a MC50 kaufen soll, wenn es die CX700 gibt. Die of SonyProfessional angebotene MC50 ist nämlich nichts anderes als eine umgetaufte CX550 with etwas stärkerem Battery, Streulichtblende, aufsteckbarem Richtmikro and Support-Vertrag. Wer auf letzteren keinen Wert legt, der kann sich die Zubehörteile einzeln zu einer CX550 dazukaufen and kommt billiger weg.
Hi Bernd E.
Thank you for your quick response.
I've done nothing wrong with the CX700 and I could just read the link in, the MC50 does not even 50p! ... I wanted to file.
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
Antwort von charly76:
"Mike Mayers" wrote:
Hi,
have after the disaster with the contaminated Lens 1st Camera now get my second copy - fits all here now. With the CX550 I can not compare directly, but with a HC7 and a FX1000. All I can write more later, it still needs to be filmed and try everything. The first impression of the image quality is for me schonmal positive
.....
Regards, Mike
Moin,
could you, the two models (; HC7 and CX700) compare something? I'm currently thinking of my HC9 to upgrade to the CX700.
I would be interested especially since comparisons to room lighting and how the auto focus is so clear?
Thank you.
Greeting Charly76
Antwort von jakson1958:
"PGJ" wrote:
Hi,
Not too long ago I've bought a SonyCX550 and was synonymous with this very satisfied. But then I had to admit that a new range of Sony has been published: The CX700VE.
Yesterday I got the package with this outrageously expensive camera (; ¬ 1279.99) and have to say that I'm really disappointed.
Here are some criticisms: LYRICS: I thought that the microphone will be better than the 700 at the 550th In the case of the 550 the sound was very quiet and has a 1,5 m distance you hardly understand someone ... let alone he / she even stands with his back to the Camera! Unfortunately, it has not improved here ... the microphone is simply inefficient. Good can this be fixed by the MIC-in somewhat, but the input is on CX700VE positioned exactly unhappy with the palm so that you can no longer hold the camera.
Display: Unfortunately, I have defective pixels on the display of CX700 and therefore found a synonymous returned the camera. Hopefully this is not a general problem in the series. I think it's also a pity that the screen size has been reduced! The size of the CX550 I found very best.
Size: The camera is small and has become easier in Comparison to its predecessor. But I feel now as so easy that it yields the smallest touch on the tripod and thus the image is shifted slightly.
Night Shot: Here I was really frightened. On the good quality of Night Shot has really done nothing, but it seems as if a part of the infrared cut off the top panel on the left. You have to imagine it as it would on the Night Shot image is always in the top right corner still a black shadow. Although one can compensate by HVL-HIRL, but is not synonymous intention.
Speakers: These are in my opinion the 700 maximum limit! At each instant beep is heard a noise, what nachtönt in the speakers. Even if you look at the videos on the display a constant noise is heard, the speaker (but only if synonymous sound is heard). Moreover, these sound very dull and there is the mono speaker of CX550 significantly better.
Image Quality: The CX 700 offers but 25p, 50i and 50p, but a really big difference in the WOW-effect would have led one to, she could not win with me. Cinematone could help not synonymous.
Only a brief summary of the comparison of CX700VE and the CX550: Pro CX700VE + Slightly better picture quality + Longer battery life + Battery can be charged via USB (; display and viewfinder to / from Camera) + Zebra and peak function + Faster and more accurate autofocus than CX550
Counterproductive CX700VE: - Pixel error on display - Display size is less than CX550 - Night Shot in the upper left corner is cut off - Speaker of noise when playing sounds - GPS is not switched off by pressing a button - IAuto not automatically activated by pressing a button (; must always be set to display) - Price (; worthwhile for the price difference to anything CX550) - Built-in microphone is still not improved! - Mic-In and Audio In poorly placed: Direct from the handle area.
I Can others confirm this impression of the camera synonymous or am I just happen to fall Monday s.ein model? The CX700 would be good for a purchase price of 900 ¬, but you believe that in the near future that will achieve price?
PS
Antwort von PGJ:
So now I once uploaded to the Night Shot issue a YouTube video:
It would be nice if others could test CX700VE owner if "cut off" for them is synonymous Night Shot. If you stop just short starts the function you can see that perhaps not, but if you look at an object approaches (such as a wall), you can see the uneven illumination.
Did you this error synonymous?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"PGJ" wrote:
... Night Shot uneven illumination problem ... ...
Do you possibly still the lens hood on the camera?
Antwort von PGJ:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"PGJ" wrote:
... Night Shot uneven illumination problem ... ...
Do you possibly still the lens hood on the camera?
No guarantees are not. A) which makes no sense at night, B) when it is attached, is synonymous of the IR sensor and is covered (such as Note) C) Aperture is not s.Werk screwed.
In retrospect, I must say that the camera is really good ... Night Shot but is already a function that should be error free.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"PGJ" wrote:
... If it is attached, is synonymous cover the IR sensor ...
Exactly why was assumed, because a patch Aperture could explain such a shadow. But if this is not the case, I'm stumped right now synonymous. However, I remember having seen one of the first Test on Youtube Videos with a CX700, which was synonymous in the Night Shot shown briefly. Personally, I'm interested in this feature but not in the least, so I have not seen this for sure, although it would come to my attention when such a large part of the picture would have been black. Normal is what makes your camera there, so hardly.
Antwort von PGJ:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"PGJ" wrote:
... If it is attached, is synonymous cover the IR sensor ...
Exactly why was assumed, because a patch Aperture could explain such a shadow. But if this is not the case, I'm stumped right now synonymous. However, I remember having seen one of the first Test on Youtube Videos with a CX700, which was synonymous in the Night Shot shown briefly. Personally, I'm interested in this feature but not in the least, so I have not seen this for sure, although it would come to my attention when such a large part of the picture would have been black. Normal is what makes your camera there, so hardly.
And this is the second CX700VE, I have. The first one I have because of an error in the pixel display and also given due Night Shot back.
Would be nice if it were jakson1958 retest Night Shot detail. First, I noticed the problem is not as synonymous, the first during a tour with Night Shot I saw that in the upper left corner there is something missing.
But since it is the second camera before, I hope that there is no production error on the part Sonyist.
* Edit: Unknown does not seem to be the problem: http://www.sony-asia.com/support/faq/441652 But is it not really the tip ...
Antwort von jakson1958:
PGJ wrote:
Would be nice if more accurate test would Nightshot jakson1958 times.
24.03.2011
Hello PGJ,
I'm just in the company (; 20:35 clock).
But when I'm home today, I would again like to test the Night Shot and tell you here. By your video to YouTube, I now know what you mean synonymous.
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
Antwort von jakson1958:
24.03.2011 / about 23:15 clock
Hello PGJ,
so now I have my new Sony CX700 still considered a closer look and you can tell a lot about Night Shot:
1) My CX700 has the same dark stain top left of the image!
2) ... but only if I go to full wide angle. As soon as I something from the drive towards Anglein Wide Tele (: not much) then the dark spot away.
3) Why is this dark spot? First of all, I'm no expert (; subsequent makes no claim to completeness / accuracy), but I have found that:
The dark spot above the left is a shadow of the lens coating. Cam sits at the front, lower right, far behind the lens a small infrared lamp. The erzeut with Night Shot, the IR light (; similar to a small light-emitting diode or small flashlight). This IR light is a circle on the center of the target area, the fact is in complete darkness visible greenish. If you're in complete darkness and Night Shot the little red IR lamp cover with a finger, then everything is just black.
Since these IR lamp is placed behind the lens far, raises the lower right edge of the lens shade Image.Wäre the top left of the IR lamp next one front or the same amount of lens attached, it would be a strong shadow in the upper left Image not give. Note: With the extreme wide-angle (, WW) there is anyway in all 4 corners more or less light shade depending on the distance to the object, since the round IR light illuminates less than the entire WW-surface. Only slightly more telephoto these light corner shadows in the image are no longer visible.
That would be the whole secret and so all the CX700 this because it is structurally limited.
So, the does not bother me, because first I need never the Night Shot and secondly, you can avoid with a little more telephoto the shade.
I hope that helps you get something more conciliatory of the CX700 are facing. If you want to make any further comparisons, like, you can sign up.
I can only repeat myself: the perfect camcorder is not or is extremely expensive and very large, but the Sony CX700 is a SUPER CAMCORDER, the day of my better liked and with whom I certainly would have much joy day!
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
Antwort von PGJ:
"Jakson1958" wrote:
24.03.2011 / about 23:15 clock
Hello PGJ,
so now I have my new Sony CX700 still considered a closer look and you can tell a lot about Night Shot:
1) My CX700 has the same dark stain top left of the image!
2) ... but only if I go to full wide angle. As soon as I something from the drive towards Anglein Wide Tele (: not much) then the dark spot away.
3) Why is this dark spot? First of all, I'm no expert (; subsequent makes no claim to completeness / accuracy), but I have found that:
The dark spot above the left is a shadow of the lens coating. Cam sits at the front, lower right, far behind the lens a small infrared lamp. The erzeut with Night Shot, the IR light (; similar to a small light-emitting diode or small flashlight). This IR light is a circle on the center of the target area, the fact is in complete darkness visible greenish. If you're in complete darkness and Night Shot the little red IR lamp cover with a finger, then everything is just black.
Since these IR lamp is placed behind the lens far, raises the lower right edge of the lens shade Image.Wäre the top left of the IR lamp next one front or the same amount of lens attached, it would be a strong shadow in the upper left Image not give. Note: With the extreme wide-angle (, WW) there is anyway in all 4 corners more or less light shade depending on the distance to the object, since the round IR light illuminates less than the entire WW-surface. Only slightly more telephoto these light corner shadows in the image are no longer visible.
That would be the whole secret and so all the CX700 this because it is structurally limited.
So, the does not bother me, because first I need never the Night Shot and secondly, you can avoid with a little more telephoto the shade.
I hope that helps you get something more conciliatory of the CX700 are facing. If you want to make any further comparisons, like, you can sign up.
I can only repeat myself: the perfect camcorder is not or is extremely expensive and very large, but the Sony CX700 is a SUPER CAMCORDER, the day of my better liked and with whom I certainly would have much joy day!
Greetings from Bavaria
jakson
This is really sad .... Thus, I have four confirmations (; 2x I, you and a Comment on YouTube), that has no CX700VE vernümpftig illuminated infrared image.
Maybe I'm a bit too fussy synonymous, but for ¬ 1239 but already I expect that all functions without error.
@ All For those who are interested, because I've been a second CX700VE: The speakers are still rushing in all shades, which it plays. The microphone is also super quiet (; I had to compensate with a Rode Stereo VideoMic). But I can say that the addition Mirko (using the instructions above) is good but still plugged, synonymous when the microphone input directly from the palm, with which one holds the camera. You need an adapter of course, the Micro to install the Sony shoe.
See you on the incorrect Night Shot feature is the camera really well.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Camcorder Info has now a detailed
Antwort von tokon:
Well I'm curious to Slashcam test and hope that this will follow soon.
The bad value of the image stabilizer (especially in Comparison with the previous) surprised me a bit. In low light area, they cut synonymous not just from good if you can believe this test.
Here is a test, but in French: http://www.magazinevideo.com/tests-en-ligne.php?Clef=371
Antwort von jakson1958:
Quote:
Before this camera I had a SonyHDR-CX550VE. The work synonymous 1A, only when I found out that the CX700VE is out and it already offers the new image qualities (25p and 50p), I switched to these. The picture quality is really good, but there are some criticisms synonymous.
Pro: + Very good image quality with 25p and 50p + Good low light performance thanks Exmor sensor R + Compatible with "old" Sony accessories (such as HVL-HIRL, NP-FV70, VCT-60AV) + Akkumulatoraufkladung via USB cable possible (only with the display closed and not folded out view finder!) + Good image stabilization (steady shot) + 96 GB of internal dynamic memory + Space accepts SD cards (SDHC, poor) or sony memory stick + Infrared / night vision (night shot) -> su criticism + Small, handy and lightweight -> criticism su + Wide Angle Lens + Hood + Remote control + Integrated USB cable (short but lengthening included) + Slow motion possible (3 seconds, which are divided into 12 seconds) + Golf Shot + Fast Auto Focus + Connections for AV, Composite and mini-HDMI + Zebra and peak function + Color viewfinder (EVF) + 10x Optical Zoom + GPS Function + Direct image transfer possible via HDMI + Face Detection and Smile Shutter + Display and viewfinder image is cut-back cross exactly
- NoRegelung the microphone level - High price (about ¬ 1239, as of 03/20/2011) - GPS is not by a switch setting (possible with previous generation) -> works only on menu - No switch for iAuto: Must be switched on touch screen (tap confirm two times, select yes and with OK) - IAuto does not turn a car again, for example, when Night Shot is active and is turned off, you have to re-enable iAuto cumbersome (see above) - Fingerprint resistant touch screen not - Touch screen smaller than previous generation - The included rechargeable battery (NP-FV50) has insufficient capacity to - Deleting of images only on camera and not via File Explorer s.PC possible - Low transfer rate when copying of Camera to PC - Not direct playback of data s.PC possible: first shots need to be temporarily copied to the PC. The transfer is not particularly fast. - Built-in 5.1 microphone takes sound from all directions (especially photography) - Average wind protection of the built-in microphone: Can be activated via the menu. - Special SonyAccessory shoe / 20 ¬ adapter for non-Sony accessories needed - Changing the recording quality cumbersome - Poor layout of the Mikrofonein, headphone output, and AV and composite connection (- Pixel error on display at the first CX700VE) - Nointegrierte light, only flash for photos - No mini-HDMI adapter included - NoFotos possible at higher recording quality
Conclusion: It is not everything got better with Sony's successor to the CX / XR 550 series. The camera has become smaller, then it offers synonymous less space for the hands and accessories. The 3 "screen is not as nice as the large 3.5" screen of its predecessor. But the biggest criticism is still with the cut Nightshot function (
This would Sony really need to remember in the early development. The previous version (CX550, XR550) has this problem does not occur. For ¬ 1239 you can require that such functions work perfectly synonymous. As I exchanged my first CX700VE because of this defect and only three other owners of reporting this problem, one can assume that there is a general production / developmental defects of this camera. Too bad because otherwise it is a good camera.
The sony support I have written regarding the Night Shot feature, but still get to noRückmeldung (as of 27/03/2011).
Hello PGJ
Antwort von tokon:
Did you have prior to purchase synonymous, the HDC-TM900 narrower in the election? Why did you ultimately for the Sony Decided?
Antwort von charly76:
I have the CX700 ordered yesterday, I look forward to it already.
@ ToKon For me, the internal fan in the Panasonic has been a KO criterion. For most shots you will not hear this. I saw a video in which a sleeping child was taken and there was the fan to hear, unfortunately clear.
Antwort von tokon:
By the fan and the lower wide angle right now I'm leaning a little more for Sony.
The poor performance of the image stabilizer in the English test I was a bit nervous, but this is the French test again praised (; if I gibberish the google translation I understood correctly).
Antwort von PGJ:
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(...) Please let us know here what you answer SONY. (...) jakson
I can do it anyway. Unfortunately, I fear that Sonynie will respond. Usually I know the synonymous, that the support sends a confirmation e-mail and says something like "we work on it as soon as possible." That was not the case with Sony (and yes, my e-mail address is guaranteed to be correct).
Moreover, the link at the top-of SonyAsia out that Sonydas problem already knows and abwiegelt as stupidity of the user who set up the hood.
But already synonymous with the CX550 I had read on the Amazon.de customer reviews, that would stir the support of Sonynie.
@ ToKon As I said charly76 has: An internal fan that is höhrbar = No go. It also shows in numerous tests that the camera is not very good in low light conditions. Since I knew the CX550, I knew that would deliver CX700 synonymous with low light good shots. They include a Sonydie Night Shot function.
That's true as far as all synonymous, but as so often said, two things bother me very s.der CX700: - Too small -> No room for additional accessories and display too small - Night Shot function failed
@ All So as an alternative I could imagine dieCanonHF G10 / XA10. This is not a 50p mode, but right when the picture quality. There is also 50p not so long and has previously synonymous None geschriehen after that you need the file. Also run today synonymous Blurays all in 24p and not 50p. Currently the G10 is synonymous with HF 1247 ¬, that is very similar to the CX700 and if the camera delivers very professional images, a 3.5 "display has and is of larger dimensions, then this would be my alternative.
The price of CX700VE falls steadily and at some point will still lie in less than 1200 ¬. It's worth it even more. When then-effective according to the CX550 are, then you can get, in my opinion the.
Antwort von wolfgang:
"PGJ" wrote:
This is not a 50p mode, but right when the picture quality. There is also 50p not so long and has previously synonymous None geschriehen after that you need the file. Also run today synonymous Blurays all in 24p and not 50p.
However, we have required in 1080 50p a long time but only now it is available. The image quality of 50i is not just with the equivalent of 50p. The fact that Blu Ray is not properly supported - each must know himself whether he needs it, or whether he wants to work with hard drive players.
So I would personally take me now no more equipment, which does not supports 1080 50p. But everyone as he likes.
Antwort von Jan:
"PGJ" wrote:
The price of CX700VE falls steadily and at some point will still lie in less than 1200 ¬. It's worth it even more. When then-effective according to the CX550 are, then you can get, in my opinion the.
Since I would not at least for the next quarter. Can Sony right now, only the FX 1000 and the PJ 30 for delivering the HD cameras, there is still synonymous noLiefertermine in the foreseeable future.
If demand increases, even the online retailers do not press the price of the camera extreme.
VG January
Antwort von PGJ:
Another small addition to one of my criticisms: - Low transfer rate when copying of Camera to PC: 714 MB file takes 3 minutes and 18 seconds, until it is on the PC. 714 MB correspond to 3 minutes, 44 50p recording in highest quality.
Antwort von tokon:
Madness 3.6 MB / s, so huge. And I thought the tedious waiting, as it used to be, from reading the DV tape is finally less.
