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Frage von DezorianGuy:


Hi!
Habe mir ja nem months ago about the ABC Handyman 100 fetched, and had little time to practice.

Have a Canon HV20 with wide Angleund (optional) Pol-filter.

1) Do I have to constantly ask for the weight, by weight, per camera shift, depending on whether I am with or without the LCD panel screen movies?

2) Is it normal that when a light wind, me and the camera comes forward, a aufgeklppter LCD screen catches the wind so that the spins wildly Steadycam system (Principle sailboat)?

3) Is an inflexible Steadycam the device that was ever produced?
It is only at one level to film. Pans up or down, are taboo. Right?

As a final question, if the above things should correspond to the fact (which would be sad):
Is there a flexible system that I was on my trip through the world choppy / shaky filming is free (no, not the crane)?

Edit from Mod: thread under the heading "camcorder-accessories folder.

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No.. A tripod will do exactly what it should. Pans must be practiced.

An alternative would be a shoulder or chest-Tripod. From your questions I notice that you have the principle of a floating tripod still have not grasped. The lighter the Cam the less stable is the whole. Attempt but something literature and demo videos to find.

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Antwort von raymaker:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: Hi!
Is there a flexible system that I was on my trip through the world choppy / shaky filming is free (no, not the crane)?

No..

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

"jazzy_d" wrote: 1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No.. A tripod will do exactly what it should. Pans must be practiced.

An alternative would be a shoulder or chest-Tripod. From your questions I notice that you have the principle of a floating tripod still have not grasped. The lighter the Cam the less stable is the whole. Attempt but something literature and demo videos to find.


What can I do to the Cam important to make? Or simply can not work with my "light" cam?
I mean, I filmed in the mountains where the wind is ubiquitous halt. How can I Steadycam there, without that everything turns like crazy?
But synonymous in the country where times a whistling breeze, the wind crashes against the LCD display on the other hand ... trying to work failed.

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

practice practice practice and more practice

A tripod needs exercise to use!

I serve my Glidecam (with HC3 and now with Smooth Shooter and a lot of additional weights) ALWAYS with both hands. So you can still something "dagegenhalten". But wind is effectively "problematic."

You can, for example, under the Cam a steel plate fitted to receive more weight.

I have a wide s.der HC3, a shader, one-directional mic on a bolt handle and the cam sled and a fast Kreutz closures and some steel plates. At the foot of the Glidecam, I have a 7 "monitor.

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Antwort von Axel:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: As a final question, if the above things should correspond to the fact (which would be sad):
Is there a flexible system that I was on my trip through the world choppy / shaky filming is free (no, not the crane)?
Hi Dezo. We have never had a rose garden you promised. A tripod is a tool, not magic stuff. Comparison shots with hands to those with which thou hast made Handyman. You'll find that you're always better. Furthermore, the Steadicam shots virtually all an entirely different class. How jazzy_d writes, very often, usually, almost always, it is better with his left hand in addition to stabilize. What is too simple, anyone can make any and that would be boring.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

So, I think that I understand the connections / cables that are appropriate for s.Steadycam the extra LCD monitor should use to not play in the wind truly "durchzudrehen".
How much, and where are they? Any experiences, what, where s.besten to obtain? Or is all this extreme DoItYourself? :)

Have synonymous with the free hand gegenstabilisiert, but no more liquid recordings brought ... or I just practiced enough with the free hand to intervene? ...
So, it is important weights below dranzuhängen (got extra 1kg weights 500g and worried), or more directly on the platform above Cam?

The fact seems to remain but that one with a Steadycam, as I do, you just stubborn film on a level, ie not angled up or down, since the equilibrium function directly intervenes in a vertical swing.

Thank you,
Christian

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: How can I Steadycam there, without that everything turns like crazy?

1. Gimbal go against a version with higher friction
2. Installation of a suitable and easily screws preloaded pressure spring for cushioning the joint sensitivity
3. With your thumb to slow slightly
4. With less wind record ...

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: Is there a flexible system that I was on my trip through the world choppy / shaky filming is free (no, not the crane)?
Oh yes, there is, however: The Camera Dolly! Mad part!
Extremely loose stable feingängig extremely, extremely easy to operate even with pans and Aufab, extremely expensive, difficult extreeem! ;-)
Guckst you: http://www.premierstudioequipment.com/Products/Cameleon/Images/CAMELEON.GIF

Darf ich fragen, wofür du "in den Bergen" ne Steadicam benötigst, vorallem with deiner Lego-Camera?

Normalerweise werden Steadicams nur bei gut vorbereiteten, inszenierten, wiederholbaren Produktionen eingesetzt (ausser den Sportübertragungen s.den Rändern der Fussballfelder heutzutage). Nicht jeder Steadicam-Shot klappt auf Anhieb (synonymous nicht bei professionellen Operatoren).

Mal so ein wenig rumsteadicamlen beim Hobbyfilmen wird dir schwerlich brauchbare (bessere als sie of Hand geworden wären) Aufnahmen bescheren! Im Gegenteil wirst du wohl viele unwiederbringliche Momente versauen, weil dir die Steadi in eine unbeeinflussbare Richtung abgerauscht ist, genau dann, als der Orca s.Rande des Seaworld-Aquariums in San Diego die Granny verschluckt and du der einzige Filmer s.Rund warst and deine Aufnahmen hättest für zig Tausend Mäuse verkaufen können... wenn nur der Orca DRAUF gewesen wäre and dir nicht ein Windhauch das LC- Display (SO heisst das Ding!) verschoben hätte! Tja...

Das hier ist ein cooles Setup with der HV20! Titel: Find the Camera! ;-)


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Antwort von jazzy_d:

A hand grip has a grip the other hand lead with a slight "pressure". Often, one only needs to "tap".

Weights are always down and up. It must be so balanced.

With a well-balanced tripod do I easily "vertical pans" (Tilt).

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Antwort von raymaker:

"Debonnaire" wrote: "DezorianGuy" wrote: Is there a flexible system that I was on my trip through the world choppy / shaky filming is free (no, not the crane)?
Oh yes, there is, however: The Camera Dolly! Mad part!
Extremely loose stable feingängig extremely, extremely easy to operate even with pans and Aufab, extremely expensive, difficult extreeem! ;-)
Guckst you:

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"raymaker" wrote: He has "flexible" I said, and the answer is because of me above, "No" - and because there is no need for discussion. Dollies are nice, but anything but flexible.
Oh darling ... Ironically, if they still recognize! ;-)
This has probably everyone except you, a little bit of understanding of matter, recognized! lol

BTW: "needs discussion" there is always! But there may well be that there is no reason to further discussion could give!

You're really cute, in your Trötzelen and Stämpfelen! Take it a little looser, Jung Chen!

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

@ DezorianGuy

What did you think for a drop-time (time flies when the tripod in the horizontal until it is tilted on the vertical commute)?

Good are 1-2 or up to 3 seconds. If there are fewer is your tripod Fusslastig. The balance is very important.

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Antwort von domain:

Times I would be interested to know how many of these homemade or purchased Amateur Steadycam after the first experience in several boxes on a further use to wait, but never take place.
A real Steadycamsystem has 20 Kg and the operator to 120 Kg pure muscle mass, which then fit together ;-))
Moreover, he has the experience of a crane capable of heavy loads s.Seil without commuting exactly can sell.

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

Well, we want to exaggerate times not. Those things work. Even without system 20kg and 120kg without muscles. But as I said it takes much practice and patience, and perhaps the technical understanding how things work (inertia and geometry). Of course it needs a bit Mukkis in the arm when it is of hand to pay (with a vest you will stop in the back). And of course I have more mass synonymous with more inertia. But synonymous small systems with small cam can work. It is very important to stop the right Ausballancierung (drop-time). With a Lastkran but these things have nothing in common.

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Antwort von domain:

Was, of course, a little exaggeration, but with a Steadycam Lastenkran have very well what to do.
Witness times the movements of a trolley s.Kran when the crane load without commuting to sell. First, he stops the forward motion, then after swinging the load before (or wants to swing) and precisely at the moment he leaves the trolley after a piece and is already wanting to start oscillation intercepted.
Who this principle after the interception and driving (but start-synonymous) has not practiced, is a Steadycam with little joy. Of course you can synonymous with soft finger pressure commuting dampen the post, but much, much practice is necessary in all cases.

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: Times I would be interested to know how many of these homemade or purchased Amateur Steadycam after the first experience in several boxes on a further use to wait, but never take place.

Show times in your content box inside what is inside ... if you think so as a crane operator to work ...

There is no rope in a tripod!

My DIY works 1A, is synonymous with multiaxial trimable.
Is it properly trimmed, then it swings around and not just the domain name you have not yet fully understood ...

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

If a tripod commutes agrees not to Ballance. Then the part Fusslastig.

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Antwort von domain:

I have the physics of the Steadycam already savvy: it is simply a pendulum and works like a Stehaufmännchen. The only question is how high the pendulum frequency and the stop should be rather slow.

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Antwort von raymaker:

"domain" wrote: I have the physics of the Steadycam already savvy: it is simply a pendulum and works like a Stehaufmännchen. The only question is how high the pendulum frequency and the stop should be rather slow.
Optimal view, there is no Pedenlfrequenz. And that creates the good Steadycam.

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Antwort von r.p.television:

"domain" wrote: I have the physics of the Steadycam already savvy: it is simply a pendulum and works like a Stehaufmännchen. The only question is how high the pendulum frequency and the stop should be rather slow.

Apparently not. Once a floating system stabilizes, it is not properly balanced.
Are not you curious by half or ignorance.

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Antwort von domain:

The difference is only in the choice of words.
Some call it recovery time or something like that and the other pendulum frequency. This is basically the same but

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

You're on the boardwalk, very long time on this issue!

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Antwort von domain:

A perfectly balanced Steadycam would be where the focus of the entire right in the ball or gimbal would, but then it would not recover, or even more of himself upright.
Thus, the focus is always just below the joint are (Stehaufmännchenprinzip).
Another question is how the resulting physico-related auto occurring pendulum inclination is subdued. A more difficult course joints can be quite helpful.

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: A more difficult course joints can be quite helpful.

Thus can you Ruckler in the video inside ...

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Antwort von domain:

Since you have to stop the right find mediocrity.
There is a completely meaningless test of Steadycam: you take the system and move it within the time pendulum frequency times fast after 30 cm in front and back. WUI And, yes it is and nothing after commutes.
Makes another test: go with the system time in a sharp 90% curve. If it is not like a motorcyclist halfway into the bend hineinlegt, then it is truly good :--))

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Antwort von maniero:

Is a 90% bend a 90 degree bend? ...

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Antwort von domain:

Yes exactly, I give everything in%, synonymous temperatures ;-))

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Antwort von maniero:

All clear ... and how does the comparison, a fuzzy 90% (degree) from curve?

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