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Frage von VCN:


Hi folks,
I need any advice in relation to a star filter. I use a rule for the Cokin P filter system. Now I have a 4-fold increased star filter. Now the problem is that the lattice structure in Wide Angle setting provides. So you can not use it. Then I come up with the idea that something could be too wide of the front lens and had me sit a smaller star filter I still had the front of the lens held. This led, unfortunately, synonymous to the same conclusion. S.euch Now my question is, how can I record at getting the same effect as the television productions get. Thank you for your answers I ever.
Ps: Camera is a SonyHVR Z5 with 72mm filter thread.

LG VCN



Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hi,

at wide position, the depth is so great that you see the filter structure. As you can see so synonymous every Staubsch ** ss on the front lens.
I guess the Sternfeffekt from the mutants Stadlober etc. are in the electronical PostPro made.

Regards
Christian



Antwort von mon3:

"KrischanDO" wrote:
I guess the Sternfeffekt from the mutants Stadlober etc. are in the electronical PostPro made.

Regards
Christian

no they are not.



Antwort von -ssSonyY-:

"KrischanDO" wrote:
I guess the Sternfeffekt from the mutants Stadlober etc. are in the electronical PostPro made.

naja during a live broadcast, I think the times were not so easily be translated to the computer?

But do the real star with filters?



Antwort von B.DeKid:

The star filter will not be made via the lens, because that would produce more star FX than in TV broadcasts appear.

I think it is a mask, what about the live stream is laid, for example with a video mixer to achieve.

Each of the star / star of the Cokin ever used - knows their function - as does a star in FX as DSDS not enough - almost looks too cheap DSDS from.

Also the distribution and the impact of FX at DSDS speak clearly for the PostPro FX.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: I have been in use Cokin - and some things you can now do on the PC easier than with a real intent - this is synonymous why Cokin on eBay does not cost more. What to Film and Still Image still can have good use of ND history or other filter, for example, or when snow s.Strand the "pump" from the sky einzu insulate. Where the classic VollFilter (ND) is the main object would be too dim.

Quasi filters have the star of a radial course Cokin filter to display only the pages of the image to manipulate. And one should chen exist in the program of Cokin not.

Also, the PostPro (stars) is not true with the asterisk to compare ;-)



Antwort von mon3:

eb at many mills, not everyone is a star filter with filter built-ins and thus before the optics. each filter as accessories, you can only behind or to the optics mounted on it, that's the disadvantage of it.



Antwort von VCN:

"mon3" wrote: eb at many mills, not everyone is a star filter with filter built-ins and thus before the optics. each filter as accessories, you can only behind or to the optics mounted on it, that's the disadvantage of it.

Now that you say so, I find it again. My old Ikegami HC 340 was actually a cross-beam built-in, almost like a ND. And so with the depth problem has been circumvented. The star effect afterwards averaged to create the elaborately?

LG.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"VCN" wrote: ............ The star effect afterwards averaged to create the elaborately?

.....

Gude

Come on Softwear and the desire / quality of.

In Luxor, for example - I know only a few scenes - looks not so like it with a star filter in front of / behind the lens from here.

(Thanks for the hint - it did not know the cameras in EB between Lens and Body - and know the only example of WW Peleng Lens)

But actually it is not difficult.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: Were there times in a "?" Wedding clip thread "?" Perhaps I find the "my then proposed using it to make 3D Softwear has been obtained by AE technique is simpler explanation should be. I look.

** Edit **

http://forum.slashcam.de/photoshop-stern-effekt--vt63612.html?highlight=stern

http://forum.slashcam.de/dieser-beruhmte-sternfunkel-effekt-vt59805.html?highlight=stern



Antwort von VCN:

"B. DeKid" wrote: "VCN" wrote: ............ The star effect afterwards averaged to create the elaborately?

.....

Gude

Come on Softwear and the desire / quality of.

In Luxor, for example - I know only a few scenes - looks not so like it with a star filter in front of / behind the lens from here.

(Thanks for the hint - it did not know the cameras in EB between Lens and Body - and know the only example of WW Peleng Lens)

But actually it is not difficult.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: Were there times in a "?" Wedding clip thread "?" Perhaps I find the "my then proposed using it to make 3D Softwear has been obtained by AE technique is simpler explanation should be. I look.

** Edit **

http://forum.slashcam.de/photoshop-stern-effekt--vt63612.html?highlight=stern

http://forum.slashcam.de/dieser-beruhmte-sternfunkel-effekt-vt59805.html?highlight=stern

Thank you for the two links. Why have I not found. So after all this is not what I mean. Yes I want to live in smaller stages music events from the many stage lights a 4 star is specialized. In 90% of Life will be broadcast on television and the set does not look as if the post (see that bet). I go out because of that in the beam path between the lens and CCD block sits.

LG.