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Europamodell eines Camcorders von 25p/50i zu 30p/60i umstellen?

Switching model of Europe of a camcorder of 25p/50i to 30p/60i?



Frage von Omni:
Februar 2010

Is it possible that the camcorder is here in Germany, for example, acquires Leading by the U.S. firmware on 30/60 frames / s switch?
Unfortunately I can make friends with the frame rates of the PAL format not "unfortunately, am interested but right now, for the models of the next series (HDC-xx70x) of Panasonic. Do I have to buy it abroad / buy an import model or how I come s.einfachsten s.The 30/60 B / s version? Why are the Manufacturers do not offer an option for switching over to? In the end it's only the software that this default setting, but as I got to the SDR of HF200 could see someone I know it can only 25p/50i and that was it.
I'm happy about any hint of me could help in this situation and schonmal thank you in advance!



Antwort von Jott:

If real U.S. frequencies are desired: just order your camcorder in the U.S..



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Omni" wrote:
... unfortunately, I can make friends with the frame rates of the PAL format not "unfortunately ...

Mal asked out of interest: Why not? Still, it has a good reason why European and U.S. models with 50Hz-60Hz with working models.

"Omni" wrote:
... Why are the Manufacturers do not offer just one option for switching over to? ...

On some camcorders, there is the absolutely yes, some may at the request of the importer to be rebuilt or expanded. Below the handle class, but I know of no camera, when it could. 60Hz if you are so important, is the purchase of NTSC model always try to make more sense than to turn a PAL model.








Antwort von Omni:

"Bernd E." wrote:
"Omni" wrote:
... unfortunately, I can make friends with the frame rates of the PAL format not "unfortunately ...

Mal asked out of interest: Why not? Still, it has a good reason why European and U.S. models with 50Hz-60Hz with working models.

I work my whole s.PC and equipment previously run on 60Hz.
The reason for the separation 50/60Hz still standing from the old tube time (power frequency) and is on today's hardware (in theory) is irrelevant. Basically, it is only the HDTV standard rather stupidly elected (I hope it feels None attacked, I do not know that everyone shares this opinion). Only the usual 50Hz for PAL, not a 1080p ... But as well as I said (as a computer) only s.PC it touches me not to work on the television. Apart from that have synonymous catch some European countries s.auf switch 24,30,60 Hz. Another small point would be the man of slow 60 to 30 and 15 pictures can (for a pseudo-slow motion).
Even though I'm so unpopular: 24, 30, 60 (, 120) Hz as standard and for the Yanks to the SI units are to change ^ - ^

"Bernd E." wrote:
"Omni" wrote:
... Why are the Manufacturers do not offer just one option for switching over to? ...

On some camcorders, there is the absolutely yes, some may at the request of the importer to be rebuilt or expanded. Below the handle class, but I know of no camera, when it could. 60Hz if you are so important, is the purchase of NTSC model always try to make more sense than to turn a PAL model.

That's true, it would be possibly only in the warranty a bit more complicated, depending on how the look of the manufacturer warranty.

Where schonmal Thanks for the feedback :-)



Antwort von Jott:

As for European countries to ask for change to 60Hz? And why is it in PAL enter "not 1080?

With a 60Hz-Camera in Europe have a lot of fun with the flickering lights in the film. Only then s.Rande.



Antwort von tommyb:

Quote:
The reason for the separation 50/60Hz still standing from the old tube time (power frequency) and is on today's hardware (in theory) is irrelevant.

Theoretically. Practically, however, NOT to the "stone-age technology" such as this ancient PAL DVD and the dusty tubes backwards compatible TVs.

Quote:
Apart from that have synonymous catch some European countries s.auf switch 24,30,60 Hz.

Which countries?


Quote:
Another small point would be the man of slow 60 to 30 and 15 pictures can (for a pseudo-slow motion).

50 25 12.5



Behind the silly 50Hz/60Hz history lies a much larger monster which is not only on the tube currently applies in daily life but floats above your head:

Fluorescent

If these are filmed at 50Hz country through 60 Hz-camera flashes the entire ambient light. Where you can meet, although if the shutter of the camera manual is regulated - AAAAB offer many of the camera values like 1 / 50 or 1 / 100 1 / 125 1 / 200 1 / 250 in (aka 1 / 60 1 / 120 1 / 180 1 / 240).

The first values of the overlap in the two systems is in rare cases 1 / 150, but often only 1 / 300 and sometimes, unfortunately, synonymous only 1 / 600.

Clear scan cameras with no control, are at levels such as 1 / 600 pictures produce the maximum s.das interior of an elephant-borne intestine, thus: totally useless


Moreover, not only fluorescent tubes which are affected but synonymous energy-saving bulbs work similarly, monitors, Stone-tube TV, so many LCD TV, etc.


PS: There is no way 60 30 15 but rather 59.94 29.97 14.985. Mkay?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Omni" wrote:
Are synonymous ... Aside from catching some European countries s.auf switch 24,30,60 Hz ...

There are non-European countries that go the other way of 60Hz to 50Hz, but they go out which European countries because of the way you mentioned? And then, "24,30,60 Hz"? Do you mean maybe cameras that record with 24p/30p/60i? Countries with a line frequency of 24Hz or 30Hz at least I do not know.

"Omni" wrote:
... Another small point would be the man of slow 60 to 30 and 15 pictures can (for a pseudo-slow motion) ...

Whether of 60 to 30 or of 50 to 25: So great is the difference.



Antwort von Omni:

Okay small correction s.meiner statement of principle to 1080p24 HD-ready devices, 25.30
Filmed and will be broadcast at 50Hz and will probably remain so. I tried again to find the article mentioned where the Norway was prepared to 60p, but probably the most ne duck when I was after a long search now synonymous nothing to find.


Quote:

As for European countries to ask for change to 60Hz? And why is it in PAL enter "not 1080?

I did not mean it but that did not provide HDTV 1080p. And so HDTV broadcast channels either 720p50 or 1080i50/psf25 out.


The problem with the lighting is clear to me, it being understood that the flicker of LSR is located at 100Hz (that 2xNetzfrequenz) and in more modern equipment (eg, LSR with ballast) is not present, but clearly in most cases, this is a definitely problem only when I use the camcorder now available for holiday movies, or work for my stay in the U.S. take with me where I have the same problem with this technique as 50Hz with 60Hz (or 59.94, as indeed has been rightly said of me and just rounded up) was ...
It would be really good in my case not so bad because I tend to (contrary to the nature of a computer scientist) drausen in the green bin on the road ^ ^
The fittest, it would be really easy to have the full choice 24,25,30,50,60 p / i



Antwort von Jott:

The SonyZ1 for example, you can switch for pleasure and mood.




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