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Frage von ole123:
März 2011

Hi,
I try to make product films for the Internet.
I film with a 5d2 and cut (currently still) with iMovie, but now I work in Final Cut Express switch currently possible on Pro.

Now I get out but not the quality I would have liked. I export and convert into mpg4 with Monkey to flash video (*. flv)
As a player I use JW. I want a result that can be viewed on as many computers.

Vimeo ect. come out of the question, I would like to host on your own server space.

Please, her knowing, told me your workflow!

Thanks, Ole



Antwort von 7nic:

Google: HTML5 Video with Flash fallback.

Does that mean: mp4 with h264, webm and theora video (OGV) and a flv. This should then go anywhere.



Antwort von dienstag_01:

To my knowledge, no one needs html5 flv, mp4 happening because Flash.
How it works at least for me.

What affects the quality of the attributes are of the desired size and data rate dependent. And of the nature of the video, so beautiful in pure color fields will be always his joy (artifacts) have.








Antwort von ole123:

Thanks for your answers!
Can you please be so kind, a Beginners like me to explain exactly how I must act!

"Dienstag_01" wrote:
Pure .... so beautiful in color space you are always his joy (artifacts) have.


I guess it was meant ironically ... what are artifacts (in connection with video)



Antwort von dienstag_01:

In principle, you lie first right.

The note with the inclusion of html5 video describes the point of the platform-and browser-independence, so that the video be seen everywhere. These are just the above-mentioned additional format.

Mp4 is what concerns the quality, first choice. I have to have written that it's always a balance between quality and quantity of data / data rate, in the end the question with which Internet connections user can view the video online, are. That is, there is a relation between quality and quantity of data. In addition, the quality is synonymous of the existing video material used. In addition I have (somewhat ironically) pointed to the expected artifacts (annoying macro block structures, "box"), clear areas of color, because it can handle encoder rather poor.

It is synonymous differences in the software encoders. Sorensen and Main Concept (included in Adobe CS software) are slightly better than the example of Quick Time.



Antwort von Axel:

"Ole123" wrote:
I film with a 5d2 and cut (currently still) with iMovie, but now I work in Final Cut Express switch currently possible on Pro ...


So you think dieCanonEOS 5D Mark II?

"Ole123" wrote:
Please, her knowing, told me your workflow!


Please be kind and explain your workflow with iMovie. With Final Cut Pro video is not a simple import of the EOS-store (ie already possible to cut only one sensible can it not), it must be converted to ProRes. I guess iMovie converts the AppleIntermediateCodec. How do you go on? I could then understand your step, because I have both iMovie as synonymous 5D footage at hand.

Suspicion scour the preferences of iMovie. The standard transmission size of HD footage to AIC is in fact 960 x 540, you must select manual full resolution. Or you walk earlier with Toast, QT Pro or MpegStreamclip?



Antwort von ole123:

Thanks in advance for your answers!

Yes, I mean dieCanon5D Mark 2 and you're right, I imported the material in 960 x 540th I had read somewhere that Apple does not get along with the full resolution ... the relationships I've just not ready ...

But with the issued mpg4 I'm really happy synonymous. Of course, it could be that the deterioration in the first convert to *. flv visible.

Before importing it into FCE, I have hunted the material through MPEG Streamclip, according to the Instructions http://finalcuttuts.de/2010/09/26/schritt-fuer-schritt-anleitung-um-h.264-videomaterial-zu-konvertieren/ (with FCE I am still p.11-hour-Tut of Video2brain ;-))

I find the version mpg4 yes very sexy, I just fear that the charge time is too long, and I do not get out, as with JW Player runs ...



Antwort von ole123:

again twice, this happens to me really often here, sorry!



Antwort von dienstag_01:

@ Ole123

Sun all your last post is incomprehensible.

Flv to walk in and then you do not look at it? I comment on it not be better.

Quote:
I find the version mpg4 yes very sexy, I just fear that the charge time is too long, and I do not get out, as with JW Player runs ...


The charging time is of the size-dependent, thus smaller file, less load time.

And, according to JW player supports mp4 website.



Antwort von ole123:

"Dienstag_01" wrote:
@ Ole123

Sun all your last post is incomprehensible.

Flv to walk in and then you do not look at it? I comment on it not be better.

What you close that I do not look at me?


"Dienstag_01" wrote:
@ Ole123


And, according to JW player supports mp4 website.


Yes, exactly what I had seen! But I do not get knitted!



Antwort von Axel:

Sure, you're too impatient. At the end of a 11-hour (!!!)- video tutorials, one would think that one or the other piece of advice would be just the stuff now exported s.besten in the desired format.

But this anticipated schonmal two tips:

1. You have the files with the AIC in a healthy, slightly compressed codec, which you can work with. When you change - apart of tough cuts - even something s.dem video, s.den colors s.der brightness, throw you on it effects and the like, then resist the temptation to spend the same timeline in mp4. Export an "independent film", ie an AIC film.

2. Now that you have this independent film, you are no longer forced to export it from FCE. You can again MpegStreamclip take it. Open "ole123s film" in MpegStreamclip and export it as ... as mp4. Experiment with the settings.



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
But with the issued mpg4 I'm really happy synonymous. Of course, it could be that the deterioration in the first convert to *. flv visible.


So I take it that you look at the flv not watch. Otherwise, you should see if something happens during the conversion or not.








Antwort von ole123:

"Axel" wrote:
Sure, you're too impatient. At the end of a 11-hour (!!!)- video tutorials, one would think that one or the other piece of advice would be just the stuff now exported s.besten in the desired format.

But this anticipated schonmal two tips:

1. You have the files with the AIC in a healthy, slightly compressed codec, which you can work with. When you change - apart of tough cuts - even something s.dem video, s.den colors s.der brightness, throw you on it effects and the like, then resist the temptation to spend the same timeline in mp4. Export an "independent film", ie an AIC film.

2. Now that you have this independent film, you are no longer forced to export it from FCE. You can again MpegStreamclip take it. Open "ole123s film" in MpegStreamclip and export it as ... as mp4. Experiment with the settings.


That's right, I am determined to be impatient! Unfortunately, my time is to employ just to me in real peace with it. I usually try to do too much in parallel ...

Thanks for your tips, I'll try tomorrow to time your way!



"Dienstag_01" wrote:
Quote:
But with the issued mpg4 I'm really happy synonymous. Of course, it could be that the deterioration in the first convert to *. flv visible.


So I take it that you look at the flv not watch. Otherwise, you should see if something happens during the conversion or NICT.


I meant it to be before converting *. flv a loss, BUT only really noticeable when it is converted to Flash. Of course I look at the result!



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
I meant it to be before converting *. flv a loss, BUT only really noticeable when it is converted to Flash. Of course I look at the result!


You think perhaps that the conversion can lead an already converted videos to poorer results. I see it. Best be avoided.

On the Support page of JW player is described in Getting Started integration of mp4.




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