Newsmeldung von slashCAM: The tube is dead, long live the tube of rudi - 30 Jul 2006 11:18:00 Both Samsung as synonymous Philips finally bring the first HDTV-compatible CRT TVs on the market. For more than competitive prices (600 -700 euros in costs) that clearly shows that LCD and plasma have to be first choice in all areas. Spiegel Online claimed at least this article, in turn, a test of the "Video" magazine summarizing.
So who still has some space on his desk, here at last is perhaps a cheap HDV preview monitor. Especially since the tubes should get along much better with the interlaced 1080i format, than any LCD or plasma each.
Antwort von Amigo:
Was recently at a major e-Est. The direct visual comparison between plasma and LCD Manufacturer several showed no significant difference. However, I have a feeling that the colors are in a good tube set much better. Even with HDTV, the colors were indeed strong, but somehow unnatural. Am I mistaken or are the things adjusted wrong? Especially in the face of the meadow and color distortions are noticeable.
Antwort von Markus:
Even with HDTV, the colors were indeed strong, but somehow unnatural. Am I mistaken or are the things adjusted wrong? I assume you mean a flat screen TV with HDTV?
Increased color saturation often leads to the lay public that they see the picture more realistic than that of a flat-screen television set. Somehow, has prevailed in LCD and plasma TVs that colors no longer be realistically rendered, but stressed-Gaudy. Normally you can not influence on image characteristics and color saturation.
However that may be synonymous, yet one more reason not to use such a device as a reference for the evaluation of video images.
Antwort von VolkerS:
Since I can only agree with Mark. Most people tend to their television with a much too strong performanceeinzustellen so unnatural color. Of course, synonymous to know the dealer and set up the equipment according to one (just like the stereos, where the dealer is out of sight rather pleased to be sold in the Auditory set a bit louder, which simulates a better sound).
With the appropriate setting, but I have synonymous hinbekommen s.meinem plasma quite acceptable (natural) colors.
Antwort von Gast1:
Most people tend to their television with a much too strong performanceeinzustellen so unnatural color. It has been for Introduction of color television so. However, the unnatural colors are not uncommon of converted NTSC programs and the "strong" in the business of deliberately nachverstärkten demo movies.
Regardless, I have so far had no plasma, and very few (recent) LCD Television found, which come with SD PAL signal synonymous only with approximate s.The image quality of a perfectly ordinary tube device. And the attitude of the surfaces will last forever, you have to almost re-adjust of program to program.
'm Curious about the HD tubes. They'll be sure to see at the IFA.
Previous attempts have failed so s.Konvergenzproblemen.
Antwort von Valentino:
Hi,
there is already someone here in the forum of Television and owns one of the two would be prepared to write your own little display on, might be better than great.
I've been playing it a bit with the thought of me to buy an HD Röher and then with the new Sapphire graphics card of over HDMI as a preview monitor to use.
Gruss
Valentino
Antwort von ruessel:
Here at Media Markt a Samsung HD (Shallow standing around) tube part, but unfortunately the picture quality was very bad. Only in the middle of the picture was pretty sharp, ever seen next to the edge, it was so blurred that one has looked up to the Premiere logo such as a blur .......
Antwort von wolfgang:
Wolfgang, the assessment in the various media markets, I have weaned myself in so far as the local Einspeisequellen usually are extremely lousy. Or you can stop taking his own test material on HDV tape with, and look at that - that again is ideal to compare the devices, moreover, as one can have since completely synonymous "nasty" materials with ...
;)
Otherwise, unfortunately stimmts: synonymous my plasma is too much red, which can be annoying even for a cut control is not the ideal. But since you really need anyway a reference monitor - the one about anspeist component of a high-quality capture card. Without a good control's just not always possible - unfortunately.
Antwort von ruessel:
But if the picture is sharp in the center and, to the border is a massive blur can already synonymous to assess the "market'm stupid", or not?
A true HD (T) V-tube screen is priceless, for a 32 inch SonyBVM-A 32 E1 buy another new car ......
Antwort von wolfgang:
The question is, wait: liegts wirlich s.der tube, or it could be synonymous s.Quellmaterial? I tend to stop synonymous tend to believe that this is probably s.der tube - but what one already knows.
The question is synonymous, obs really a tube devices must be. I had Resolutiongesehen some time ago in this year's house show my Canopus dealer in Vienna, the first Sony full HD plasma. Because of been a play-HC3 HDV material via hdmi. The plasma had a really good picture - when it synonymous for my personal taste was better not to sooviel more than today's standard HD-ready devices. But it's clear where the train goes. In 2 years, today's HD-ready devices on the market are replaced by actual HD Plasmas and LCDs, synonymous when one will see the difference in the normal viewing distances in ordinary petrol and living room any more.
And the point is that the tube stop with 1080 50i get along better - well, even my (rather cheaper) Fujitsu-Siemens Plasma with my FX1 material has no real problems with regard to these issues.
How well does the hdmi output of a graphics card as a control monitor is suitable for me is yet another exciting question. Actually, I would expect once the same themes as we had previously been of graphics cards, namely, that the spaces do not match really, and a true evaluation of color again until it is difficult to make. But if that's so - I do not know - to split the market is stable in one hand, high-quality editing suites with NLE editing cards with component output (Matrox, Canopus) and reference monitor (cost about 6000 euros) and halt cheaper solutions - such as have been synonymous.
Whether the tube come along with the emerging trend of full HD Resolutionnoch, we'll see. Basically, yes is a variety of services not bad, I think. From the Page, the tubular device produces an enrichment.
Antwort von deepcode:
So my simple idea when I was recently in these times unsymphatischen geiz had geil discounter really looked panels:
Plasma continues to provide better pictures - natural contrasts and more finely graded color. LCD has caught up, yet the colors are undifferentiated and platikmäßig. The stream feeding - factor is now about equal. It is an impertinence but the customers will prefer the subtly concealed parts loosely between 250 and 500 watts!
In most of the panels Resolutionfür the subjectively perceived image quality plays almost no role. There were a few favorable looked only 800 x 600 or so panels that simply very good, sharp and detailed.
Panels with native HD - resolution (> 1280) AND really good picture are still expensive, s.ca. EUR 3500.
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Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
times take a look at the JVC HD-CRT TV's in 28 "and 32".
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
The question is, wait: liegts wirlich s.der tube, or it could be synonymous s.Quellmaterial? I. Hardly s.Quellmaterial, for which movie is already in the middle s.Rand blurred and sharp, if it is not just a special effect.
The Samsung is blurred to the edge, because it is equipped with a tube that is not particularly deep, and therefore needs a very large deflection angle. Thus it is, however, geometry and sharpness problems, a, which are difficult to get to grips with.
I received my order the Philips, but not yet delivered. Let's see how the quality is so. After review, it provides better sharpness than with HDV, although at SD, but not the sharpness that deliver LCDs or plasma (if) 1920x1080-Resolutionhaben. Hand, he will cost significantly less synonymous. And if in some years, the flat screens have become better and cheaper, I can still change. Perhaps there will indeed synonymous tubular devices that are the same) well (or better. We'll see.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von amigo:
I could even read in the audio video, plasma and LCD displays that provide only about 70% of the color spectrum of a tube. Future SEDS should come on lush 110 - 120%. So better than tube. But I could not synonymous to win the "plastic-like" impression, as it is described above.
And with HDTV broadcasts eg Discovery HD with such a low bitrate that the movement associated movement of a dinosaur's head the entire horizontal range in head size of the animal. Was not it beautiful ....
