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Miniatureffekt Tilt-Shift und Timelapse

Tilt-shift miniature effect and Timelapse



Frage von GrinGEO:
August 2010

I have seen two very interesting effects, although I currently do not need that, but I want to fall back in the near future.

My equipment is still sporadic (consisting of Canon 550D, Battery Pack, Sigma 50-150, Samyang 80 1.4, Tripods, etc.), but I would not of course remain on my level.

Therefore, I am pleased with your answers and help, because certainly the one or other of you in the area is already very advanced

1st How to make a miniature effect alá Telecom

http://vimeo.com/1785993


I know that with something like a Tilt-Shift Lens is possible. But is the image result with the lens already at this level or is there simply refinished? Is there possibly with alternatives such as Lensbaby (so synonymous have 0 experience), or is it all just made in post production?

If you work with individual photos, or do you do video mode and then the software can simply skip frames?

2nd How to make a timelapse a la Philip Bloom

http://vimeo.com/8951807

Regardless of Dolly or slider, is working here with photos or video? If with photos, how can you set the camera to take as many photos, or need for a special cable release or laptop? Which Lenses with which you use Aperture and shutter speed? Looking forward synonymous here of any help.


Thanks in advance



Antwort von deti:

"GrinGEO" wrote:
1st How to make a miniature effect alá Telecom

http://vimeo.com/1785993


I know that with something like a Tilt-Shift Lens is possible. But is the image result with the lens already at this level or is there simply refinished? Is there possibly with alternatives such as Lensbaby (so synonymous have 0 experience), or is it all just made in post production?

If you work with individual photos, or do you do video mode and then the software can simply skip frames?

It always works with video and produces this effect later by blur masks, Time Lapse and the omission of Frames:

http://www.vimeo.com/14014317
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_faking
http://vimeo.com/10294791

"GrinGEO" wrote:
2nd How to make a timelapse a la Philip Bloom

http://vimeo.com/8951807

Regardless of Dolly or slider, is working here with photos or video?

Photos.

"GrinGEO" wrote:
If with photos, how can you set the camera to take as many photos, or need for a special cable release or laptop?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250603863427&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:DE:1123

"GrinGEO" wrote:
Which Lenses with which you use Aperture and shutter speed?

Lenses are no preference. Aperture and shutter speed depends on the desired result, as always when taking pictures and shooting.

Deti



Antwort von pilskopf:

The Forum has a DSLR with its Tiltshifts took pictures and then transferred via batch command in Photoshop Effect on the photos. But I would make synonymous with the video mode is a more convenient workflow, I think. It is enough to shoot even two minutes of it to get a 10-second clip. For some shots you have to do it but by photos, this will not always work in video mode.

Since it would interest me, it is in the long lapse of time or even take over day night change there to a half-automatic and allows the Aperture Fotocamere?





Antwort von Burner87:

To 1
for something like you do not need tilt-shift lens, which is synonymous much cheaper:
(I describe my approach in Photoshop)
- You make some pictures / videos a
- Then will be created in PS, a new action (for the batch processing)
- Place blur over the top and bottom of the Picture, or at the place where you want the blur
- Action to save and run for all images
- Then the individual images zusammenrendern to a movie (eg with Virtual Dub)

zu2.
In general, the TLs are well made with a DSLR, but it is synonymous camcorder to record the images at a certain distance can.
About the CHDK firmware can make a timelapse with many of Canon compact cameras.
If you use a DSLR, you need a timer remote release (~ 50 ¬) or use the EOS Utility of Canon. So you can set the camera to a certain number of images and a certain time lag. DSLR and laptop to be connected with a USB cable.
The images are then simply re-rendered as above into a film.
Settings in the DSLR: Focus on MF, Aperture and shutter speed set once, then put on manual, tripod use and image stabilization on out.
Depending on changes in the picture in my pictures have shown intervals of 5 to 20 seconds to be optimal.



Antwort von pilskopf:

But when I open Aperture but the night and then the day comes, I can not imagine any way. Is not that an over-exposure?



Antwort von deti:

"Pilskopf" wrote:
But when I open Aperture but the night and then the day comes, I can not imagine any way. Is not that an over-exposure?

Sure there is. Therefore, the currently set mode is very strongly of the application and the desired effect dependent. There is no panacea.

Deti



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Philip Bloom is working mostly with Camera Slider systems and stepper motors:
http://com-videoshop.de/index2.php

The course brings a lot of dynamics in the time lapse shots and movements that were not possible before. Watch s.besten after the deluxe system.

Greetings!



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Burner87" wrote:
To 1
for something like you do not need tilt-shift lens, which is synonymous much cheaper:
(I describe my approach in Photoshop)
- You make some pictures / videos a
- Then will be created in PS, a new action (for the batch processing)
- Place blur over the top and bottom of the Picture, or at the place where you want the blur
- Action to save and run for all images
- Then the individual images zusammenrendern to a movie (eg with Virtual Dub)


Is that synonymous directly in video editing program? Sony Vegas because that's easier than ne batch ... above all, I have no PSD.
Is not that just a blur filter as Cirvulare?



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Burner87" wrote:
or use the EOS Utility of Canon. So you can set the camera to a certain number of images and a certain time lag. DSLR and laptop to be connected with a USB cable.
The images are then simply re-rendered as above into a film.
Settings in the DSLR: Focus on MF, Aperture and shutter speed set once, then put on manual, tripod use and image stabilization on out.
Depending on changes in the picture in my pictures have shown intervals of 5 to 20 seconds to be optimal.


with the EOS Utility sounds good ... vermultich you need an external power supply but for the Camera ... weilk which is itself some BP with one flat and then we see any movement on average ...

But as Philip Bloom has changed since the Aperture or continuously recording time? Does he have one, right?



Antwort von deti:

"GrinGEO" wrote:
with the EOS Utility sounds good ... vermultich you need an external power supply but for the Camera ...

That with the EOS Utility is still massively impractical: since you have to additionally carry along a notebook everywhere and still provide the synonymous with power.

The power supply for the 550D is Canon ACK-E8 and is quite expensive. That you can only work around, if you make less than about 500 images, or you can even build a power supply adapter.

Deti



Antwort von GrinGEO:

maybe someone has a simple instruction like this could go into a video editing program? Views as little-by in what I've been walking ...



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Deti" wrote:
"GrinGEO" wrote:
with the EOS Utility sounds good ... vermultich you need an external power supply but for the Camera ...

That with the EOS Utility is still massively impractical: since you have to additionally carry along a notebook everywhere and still provide the synonymous with power.

The power supply for the 550D is Canon ACK-E8 and is quite expensive. That you can only work around, if you make less than about 500 images, or you can even build a power supply adapter.

Deti


Since I already need a power supply for the Canon ... bothers me a power adapter for my netbook less ... The problem with LiveView s.pc's just the power-schnelelre ...

Incidentally, the function with the time I just found and is very horny ...

've just found another feature. with eos utility can be even in Av, Tv, M mode synonymous activate the feature film without turning the wheel .... this is really great



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hey,

better for time-lapse recordings actually external remote controls shoot every few seconds Stillimage. I do have long had such a lapse, here in the forum synonymous asked some questions about exposure and aperture. As one can often argue about it, but first you must try out for a few days, until the "twist" is out. This can of course always takes so long because a lapse takes at least an hour that you notice light differences.

Pans in the editing program mean lower quality and not HD-Resolutionmehr. So I recommend, of course direct solutions where you move the camera. A ride in reality is of course synonymous different than a digitally generated drive. Because if you pass s.einem tree, we see the once of the left, and later of the right, with a digital pan, you can see the tree only of the front.

Greetings!



Antwort von le.sas:

"Burner87" wrote:
To 1
for something like you do not need tilt-shift lens, which is synonymous much cheaper:
(I describe my approach in Photoshop)
- You make some pictures / videos a
- Then will be created in PS, a new action (for the batch processing)
- Place blur over the top and bottom of the Picture, or at the place where you want the blur
- Action to save and run for all images
- Then the individual images zusammenrendern to a movie (eg with Virtual Dub)
t.


if you want to laugh at yourself every once experete you can do it that way.
if you want to do professionally but you take the tilt shift optics,
or you do it in a video program with the sharpness, but is it somewhat more difficult, because there is not enough just to make parts of the image blurred, but the front-blur, adjust the medium-and background!



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Tilt-Shift-Optics? Motor rotates the head?

Well, make programmed in any case in editing, not in Photoshop. In Photoshop, make only necessary to adapt the RAW photos! (Only once and then the xml file for the respective pictures and copy of Photoshop can only convert to jpg's!) => With batch processing, the import of 1000 Raw Photos Photoshop quickly overloaded.

Greetings!



Antwort von pailes:

"Le.sas" wrote:
if you want to laugh at yourself every once experete you can do it that way.
if you want to do professionally but you take the tilt shift optics

Funny that even the "professionals" create the effect in the Post: http://aerofilm.blogspot.com/2010/02/sandpit-short-film-by-aero-director-sam.html



Antwort von GrinGEO:

nu good, and how do you do it now in real? None so far has even properly erklährt



Antwort von pailes:

"GrinGEO" wrote:
nu good, and how do you do it now in real? None so far has even properly erklährt

Many roads lead to Rome: download Photo in Photoshop, apply via focal-plane gradients in the alpha channel and then the filter lens blur on it. Finish.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSA75837E3-FE05-4f86-A9DF-3C0DD602CA63a.html

Alternatively, the editing program: video in two layers, one with Blur, one without and then with a soft mask to mask out the focal plane.



Antwort von deti:

"GrinGEO" wrote:
nu good, and how do you do it now in real? None so far has even properly erklährt

Do you belong to the people, which you must chew everything down, so they get something means?

Deti



Antwort von le.sas:

Aha, a homepage to have declared now as a professional? Interesting.
You will then find synonymous determined that the makers of the current German television series are professionals? Or the makers many a great film that run that? Congratulations.

Your "experts" have made it synonymous just because a Tilt-Shift Lens puts the focus on an image plane, and attracts not just two strips through the blurry picture, as do your "professionals".
If you want to make it really professional in the post, you take not only a Unscharfebene and frees a stripe, but which objects are staring at a focal plane and maskierst them.
But good to know that we the people With so impressed Billigeffekten already can and they think this is professional work.
The pictures on the site in the way you showed the benefit of setting, especially the picture in the middle-Da would be objectionable even not much, since the focus here is on the street level.



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Deti" wrote:
"GrinGEO" wrote:
nu good, and how do you do it now in real? None so far has even properly erklährt

Do you belong to the people, which you must chew everything down, so they get something means?

Deti


Ne deti .. I usually informoiere me, but I just do me with the understanding difficult ... Therefore I ask for so meticulously



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Le.sas" wrote:

Your "experts" have made it synonymous just because a Tilt-Shift Lens puts the focus on an image plane, and attracts not just two strips through the blurry picture, as do your "professionals".
If you want to make it really professional in the post, you take not only a Unscharfebene and frees a stripe, but which objects are staring at a focal plane and maskierst them.
But good to know that we the people With so impressed Billigeffekten already can and they think this is professional work.
The pictures on the site in the way you showed the benefit of setting, especially the picture in the middle-Da would be objectionable even not much, since the focus here is on the street level.


So you empfielst but with Tilt-shift work, or is synonymous with a Lensbaby??



Antwort von GrinGEO:

[Quote = "Pailes"]
"GrinGEO" wrote:

Alternatively, the editing program: video in two layers, one with Blur, one without and then with a soft mask to mask out the focal plane.


Ok so with two levels ... how to mask off for a plane in Vegas ...? know someone or can he give me an instruction to that?
thank you



Antwort von pilskopf:

Go put it in the Panorama / Crop section, where you can still mask with a hook. Then, still have to set a soft edge, practice makes perfect I think. I have but with three levels in my Little people work. Might have been not even necessary to have to try it. Come on it just see above the picture detail synonymous ne certain depth which one has just wants to make more blurred.



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Pilskopf" wrote:
Go put it in the Panorama / Crop section, where you can still mask with a hook. Then, still have to set a soft edge, practice makes perfect I think. I have but with three levels in my Little people work. Might have been not even necessary to have to try it. Come on it just see above the picture detail synonymous ne certain depth which one has just wants to make more blurred.



mhh quite so I can not follow you now .. Under Crop panorama there is no catch ... but I'll be very grateful for the help, synonymous Wiel I'm just exactly admired your video so ... especially the one of the jumps from the tower ... is the audio post-processed?
Thank you for everything Schonmal



Antwort von pilskopf:

Audio is obviously post-processed, which is also the Wilhelm scream, the most famous movie scream ever. : D Merkt but probably no one would have thought a great mention the times.


Do you have Vegas Movie Studio and Vegas Pro? The mask function is only in Vegas Pro.



Antwort von GrinGEO:

got vegas pro ... tell me, can you tell me perhaps synonymous Demoo a scene for disposal so that I shall try this here immediately? because I still do not abe vogelperspektive shoots a city ... or I may in a small clipping of your to take a quick Project Files? I check the presumably much faster. synonymous can really only be a part of a single clip, the rich should. would be great if there was



Antwort von pilskopf:

Sure, if so far is I post the link here does not know whether or create! I used my work yet.

Ok you have the Pro, so I go to view the panoramic setting and the left in the Keyframespalte you should be synonymous to the words "mask", which provides what can you do when a check mark and then you just have to draw a mask. There are certainly synonymous tutorials on Youtube # to Vegas, or even of themselves, which do have a help, as must watch times.



Antwort von GrinGEO:

och depp I now have found self ... I'm short on time and turn the steeple NEN shot .. let's see



Antwort von pilskopf:

http://www.vimeo.com/14294615

password: slashCAM


So, here three small clips can download if you need still. : D



Antwort von le.sas:

[Quote = "GrinGEO"]
"Le.sas" wrote:



So you empfielst but with Tilt-shift work, or is synonymous with a Lensbaby??


hm I do not know to which extent this objective tilt ...



Antwort von GrinGEO:

"Pilskopf" wrote:
http://www.vimeo.com/14294615

password: slashCAM


So, here three small clips can download if you need still. : D


, Thanks a project file would still cool to see your work times ...



Antwort von GrinGEO:

'm a bit next, synonymous if my video looks crappy right now and still nothing has colors of the beautiful ... looks totally out of lousy .. still hope on your help



Antwort von pailes:

"Le.sas" wrote:
Aha, a homepage to have declared now as a professional? Interesting.
You will then find synonymous determined that the makers of the current German television series are professionals? Or the makers many a great film that run that? Congratulations.

Well, you're a funny cookie. "Professional" means, first, that someone earns his money so, no more and no less. The quality of an activity that say not necessarily. And as you can easily see s.dem link, defended the merits of the Lord "Sandpit" - Video obvious his bread with the matter, ergo he is professional.

"Le.sas" wrote:
If you want to make it really professional in the post, you take not only a Unscharfebene and frees a stripe, but which objects are staring at a focal plane and maskierst them.

Oh really? Is it great that you can do it better. Then you are just an even nicer professional. Therefore it was not. Fact is, many (if not all) of tilt-shift videos were not made with Tilt-shift lenses. And if some of them have been used commercially (such as advertising), they were usually made of professionals.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"GrinGEO" wrote:


So you empfielst but with Tilt-shift work, or is synonymous with a Lensbaby??


Does compare different - Fake Shallow DoF with correct and Shallow DoF aka 35mm adapter.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Lensbaby creates a more "confused blur" that can act quickly once synonymous confusing. I personally would use something like shown only in a dream world, or a horror movie. I would realize the desired effect s.Deiner place synonymous in postproduction (AfterFX).

Greetings!



Antwort von GrinGEO:

ok so to lensbaby then checked off the first time ... So we remain the first time at the post for the effects that you probably use anyway so rarely ...




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