Frage von steff517:
Hi,
for all who are with the performance of AVCHD in Premiere CS4 torment I have a tip. Converts the entire material with the Adobe Media Encoder after DVCPROHD100. That cuts it and then when the project is finished and rendered, will simply "replace clip" in the overview of each media clip back through the original AVCHD replaced. Then the Project into the desired format and finally the DVCProHD clips delete.
Benefits - When cutting speed increases TREMENDOUS
- No loss of quality in the finished film
- Briefing on average in HDV quality
Disadvantages - High memory requirements of the converted files
- A little work, all the clips to replace
On the Comparison of the speed: I work with a Core2Duo E8500.
AVCHD Once I have a brightness of course applied to a clip, he plays no more liquid s.and the CPU is at 100%
DVCProHD Track 1: Brightness History
Lane 2: reduced clip as Picture-in-picture with motion
If liquid is played, CPU Load: 70%
So it is again much faster than HDV.
Antwort von Videofactory:
Hello,
as is roughly the ratio of the size of AVCHD and DVCProHD?
Should I then change each clip individually?
Gruß, Alex.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Converts the entire material with the Adobe Media Encoder after DVCPROHD100 It must be really huge upset, and finally the editing program will cost a lot of money.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
DVCPROHD100 is 100Mbit / s. AVCHD begins with the best quality at 16Mbit / s on.
That's the way that is synonymous
Edius NEO - Intermediatecodec.
Antwort von steff517:
@ Alex: DVCPROHD100 has 100MBit, AVCHD usually between 14-24MBit, depending on the setting. 6-8x the size, you can roughly calculate. As you said but how then can delete, it's half as wild.
@ Bruno:
This is less s.der software, as s.den hardware requirements, which provides AVCHD. Alone in the prestige VLC player my PC already weighs about 80%. Affordable hardware acceleration, there's unfortunately still not synonymous of the premiere would be supported. With a quad-core sees the world differently from synonymous again. But the detour is likely described the material even on a laptop use.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
The high CPU load when VLC is because no hardware acceleration is used.
Disabled man in PowerDVD this acceleration, the CPU load as well as the VLC.
For an efficient cutting can be synonymous IMO only an I-frame format in question. Not for nothing is so synonymous AVC-i 50/100.
Antwort von Jörg:
steff @ 517
Bruno knows everything that he knows for a long time ... he writes about from time to time, whenever he has found Zündhölzchen again.
CS4 AVCHD is with adequate hardware and very casually processable,
whether native editing is advisable or not ....
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
This is less s.der software, as s.den hardware requirements, which provides AVCHD. It is synonymous s.der Software ..., Software ... synonymous s.der
Antwort von Wiro:
@ Steff517
Good idea.
Since I usually at AVCHD to Cineform Intermediate understanding using a question:
You walk by Media Encoder in P2 MXF to ...?
Or have I misunderstood what?
Greeting Wiro
Antwort von Videofactory:
If I propose to render the clips again replace this means is that I only DVCProHD clips that need to cut the time correctly.
Could not take synonymous SD? Then you could then work with files, what exactly are as large as the AVCHD files.
That would indeed be synonymous by the space needed her again ok.
Antwort von deti:
Could it not simply a program, with the AVC-material can handle a little better? This question I asked and I am on Sony Vegas Pro encountered. This is easily AVC material directly - without Trankodierung ...
I can already understand that you are not of his favorite NLE solution wish away, but currently I see no good alternative to AVC natively edit material.
Deti
Antwort von steff517:
@ Wiro: Properly understood, transformation p2 MXF
@ Factory Video: Sure, you can make synonymous. If only the disadvantage that the sharpness is not 100% control and the video has a different size.
Deti @: I have been synonymous with Sony Vegas and worked in principle, there is the performance, especially in handling things very well. I have a full-HD video on a Netbook with Intel Atom processor geschnitten ;-)
The surface is absolutely no delay in responding, that's awesome. But actually, I still only cut s.Abspielen was not to think this was the Netbook much too slow.
When playing, I do not think that Vegas and will premiere as much. Especially when you start to install then Effects.
Antwort von Shiranai:
When playing, I do not think that Vegas and will premiere as much. Especially when you start to install then Effects. Because you're right, have recently tried Vegas. The AVC video without Jerkiness already Effects in Premiere as well as synonymous. The only improvement that I have noticed is that the picture is not as complete lockup at Premiere sometimes.
Nevertheless, I understand the meaning of this method with DVCPRO-HD not. Why the files are huge reckon if I followed it anyway again replace with the originals? Furthermore, based DVCPRO HD look back at the ollen MPEG-2 codec, then it can be synonymous but in the same MPEG-2 conversions ...
If it helps someone, I finally fell to the Premiere AVC much better with clear, if the material to the baseline profile is converted. Videos play so fluently s.and errors are eliminated synonymous - have a feeling that Premiere is s.CABAC something swallowed.
Antwort von deti:
Nevertheless, I understand the meaning of this method with DVCPRO-HD not. Why the files are huge reckon if I followed it anyway again replace with the originals? Furthermore, based DVCPRO HD look back at the ollen MPEG-2 codec, then it can be synonymous but in the same MPEG-2 conversions ...
DVCPRO HD is not based on MPEG2 video - as the name suggests, it is much more an offshoot of the DV standard. This is a fairly naked on DCT blocks in single images at a low compression ratio of 6,7:1 applied. This will DVCPRO HD at very high data rate (100Mbit / s) required to get an HD video to encode a maximum of 1440x1080, although the result with 4:2:2 sampling is still quite modest.
If it helps someone, I finally fell to the Premiere AVC much better with clear, if the material to the baseline profile is converted. Videos play so fluently s.and errors are eliminated synonymous - have a feeling that Premiere is s.CABAC something swallowed. What should it make sense to AVC AVC to transform, as well as synonymous with decoding subsequent Neukodierung very time-consuming? If yes, then I would in MPEG2 with 35MBits / s and convert but to render it synonymous. Of course, any transcoding to deteriorate the quality of the material - sometimes you can but live with.
Deti
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
You are wrong, the poster uses this input transcodes files just for ease of editing, the final rendering is done with the original files.
Antwort von deti:
Who is wrong? In my explanation of how DV works? The purpose of the thread starter, I understood perfectly and was just the statement "DVCPRO HD MPEG2 =" corrected.
Deti
Antwort von domain:
If the goal mpeg2 format, then it would be wiser in the same XDCAM-EX format with 35 mbs to film. If someone today claims that AVCHD with current mainstream hardware is
perfectly cut, then you can now from the years of discussions, merely shows that the question
be amateurs are suffering.
A pair of native AVCHD editing s.ganz special graphics cards or special (Spurs) coprocessors will probably not be around, so at least the primary color correction, 2D effects and alpha visors in realtime and without Vorschaurendern betrachtbar are.
Economically, people are a few million extra transistors, no preference s.welcher place in mainstream PCs installed synonymous but not quite safe. The computer world has consumed as much energy as the entire air traffic and the characters in the recently enforced EU regulations bez. Energy-saving lamps.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Accidentally ...
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Domain großartig your global perspective on the energy problems of this world from elevated position. But ... actually went there just the simple average of the AVC, the first poster with the sauteuren Premiere Pro CS4 on his PC is not different than with dummy clips how. It is what he wurscht as a dummy clip hernimmt if it follows certain rules.
Antwort von domain:
It is surely obvious that the professional NLE Manufacturer not really with native AVCHD amateur want to cut apart. This is the domain of the smaller manufacturer. In Magix Pro X, but as with the effect that now suddenly mpeg2 HD or HDV, AVCHD worse than running, in fact, a joke.
Antwort von Shiranai:
What should it make sense to AVC AVC to transform, as well as synonymous with decoding subsequent Neukodierung very time-consuming? I take exactly the opposite, since I use the material with the Badaboom Converter convert. That counts with its top graphics card in real time. With me still with just under 10 fps. Unfortunately he can only H.264 format. ATI user since habens better, because there the Avivo converter. Because I would then of course synonymous with MPEG-2 format.
But otherwise I think this is the quickest solution and of space.
I'm so unprofessional synonymous and synonymous replace the files later, as the premiere with Herauscodieren from the baseline profile is much faster. Und nen great loss of quality I could not recognize, however, still have no side-by-Side Comparison made.
Antwort von koji:
Hi,
So: did the problem weeks since my AVCHD (1080/60p) cutting. tried everything. cineform all schnittproggis (vegas, liquid, CS4, cs3) and not only ran up to now nearly as good as this description here! Thank you!
hab mein 1080/60p times now in the MXF format and transcoded in CS4 geschnitten. is 1A. spitze and absolutely unnecessary (Quad, RAID0, 4gb ram, 512mb graka). Now I have 1-2 but ask:
my source material is 60p in 1080 (AVCHD) with 24mbit. Unfortunately, I have the setting in the media encoder but can not find it synonymous with 60 frames export? seems to give only 30p. pity.
how high is the quality loss when transcoding after DVCPROHD100? otherwise I would not replace files.
Thank you! I already very helpful.
