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Tips for "Cinema Sound" in the postpro?



Frage von scrooge:
August 2005

Salut together

Yesterday I got me the DVD "seen Gladiator." Here I have the sound (in the battle in Germania) once in Dolby Digital 5.1 and even consulted with a normal stereo headphones.
The fantastic quality of the sound comes in over TWO of hearing. The surround mix is definitely not out of the cinema quality - although nowadays always equal to 5.1 with Movies and standard stereo radio links with Granny - utter nonsense. ;-)

Now my question:
It was in Gladiator, the use of various sounds, particularly the very impressive Hall, etc. constituted the overall impression.
Who can give me tips or links that give them their own film sound "spatial depth" big Hollywood movies?

We're working to use s.einem feature of such a sound could be, so I'm thankful for every tip. I do not mean here Tips for O-sound but for sound design in post processing.

Thank schonmal.
Hartmut



Antwort von Axel:

Hello Hartmut,
you're right that a GOOD synonymous mix in stereo, and sometimes even sounds good in mono.
Here is the secret: the 5.1 - is your tone in 6-channel mix, which is what the sound events are concerned, are clearly separated. This results in a transparency of space, which suggests a great depth.
But, live sound, which was cut parallel to the image capture and perhaps only one microphone with "with" necessarily contains many synonymous adverse events such as different voices of the actors striking because different distance from the micro (maybe one turns his head from the host area Indicative of the microphones), "realistic" background noise, reflections of walls, etc.
In addition, you have only one Tonbrei, s.dem is synonymous with the most sophisticated filters no longer there to taste a lot.

Rule No. 1: Forget realism! Ask yourself: What kind of tone colors, shades, I want the room that you see, fill, how to "smell"?

Rule No. 2: Separate your ingredients. Attempts to include voices of actors individually unbiased as possible (by Micro-Angel or lavalier) and. The Canon XLs and the Panasonic DVX 100 make it possible to record two microphones on separate tracks. Is that when you do not use tapes, DAT recorder or MD recorder and a film damper using for synchronization. Use in this case, the DV-soundtrack for guidance.

Rule No. 3: hunt and gather! Use of a passing car, a cooing dove, rain or shine, not the dull original, but clean canning. Collect sounds on CD, clean out synonymous "Sound FX CD 's going, Foley Artist (make your own surreal rain with dried peas, which spin in a salad bowl).

Rule No. 4: Mix it, baby! A good long drink does not consist of 20 ingredients. A base note with hints of overtones, with a clear taste. LIKE the traffic sounds in the background? Gloomy? Cheerful? Threatening? Dull, you are standing on drugs? Well, certainly not just "realistic". Blades arrows whistling through the air, really? Creaks a strained catapult as the Gorch Fock, before it falls apart? Sounds really like a battle-ax in the chest "so you can bite synonymous tomorrow powerful"? And above all: If we were in a battle roar vs. Germany. Italy really such details can heraushören yet?

Rule No. 5: Securing tracks! Keep as many audio tracks in your editing program (or in your audio sequencer) as long as possible separately. Hear it if possible, together with individually from the pictures. Take your synonymous to the finished mix the option s.einer track volume, panning, effects change after the event, adding the safest versions.

Rule No. 6: The choice of weapons. Use the right (not necessarily the most expensive) microphones. Delegate the sound in the recording s.einen sound engineer. Do not trust your speakers. Use the (stereo) mixing a suitable Headphones, as in the article "Recommendation for Microphone" below.

I could go on yet, but you got the picture!



Antwort von scrooge:

Exactly such tips I have wanted.
Since a lot is on what I have so far not been considered.
Thank you for the effort.

If you have more tips, too ;-)

@ all:
If there are actually synonymous Filmvertonung practical books, workshops, etc. ?

Greeting
Hartmut








Antwort von yenz:

on the subject I have:

http://www.dplay.com/book/app/#trans

found, quite expensive, in English, but should be pretty much what you're looking for!

Regards
yenz




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