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Frage von DoBBy:
Juni 2008

Hello Forum,

Who knows not Titanic! I think the movie really well, but I am now not only the act with me rather s.sekundärer position. No, I have this movie so often compatriots and the actual fact what fascinates me is the way this film was created. Of course, I already infinite number of "Making-OFS" and "Behind-the-scenes" video, viewed, there are these things but rather for the "masses" explained, but not like how the visual effects are built, etc .
Therefore, I would like you here now show a small part of me has always been very fascinated by them and you have to ask a kind of analysis:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=F672dmbIWVs&feature=related

Start doing the whole thing at about 2:20 min
For the whole making-SFO, I know that the wreck of recordings of actual original footage of the real Titanic, which they have filmed with robots. So, this real Titanic under water not be computer generated. -> How do you do then the real wreck of this ship again, as there in the excerpt? And if I go through frame by frame and try to identify some changes, I must admit that there are not. Even the furniture is s.der exactly the same spot where it previously in the wreck is synonymous (just stop verottet)
My second question: yes, the camera rushes since formally along the corridor and then glides through this door and the stairs. Is that with a Steadycam been done? One can Kamerakran I think it was not, because you see so clearly the door frames and even if the crane horizontally through the door there would have then immediately turn a sharp right turn through the second door can do?!

The above link is only one place in the 3-hour film that interested me effektemäßig: There are other posts, of which I am just happy to know how you did. I will still raussuchen times and then post them here. I think I'm possibly not the only one that interested, or does it? :-)

I would be incredibly happy if I am in this area could be a little smarter, because I personally would be something totally synonymous times like himself after that if it is synonymous to me with my current equipment will not be possible ... :-(

Thank you very much



Antwort von Eugen von ...:

"Dobby" wrote:

For the whole making-SFO, I know that the wreck of recordings of actual original footage of the real Titanic, which they have filmed with robots. So, this real Titanic under water not be computer generated.

But, for the most part, yes. At this depth, you can synonymous with monster-headlights look is not far. In the film, the range of light much too large. The water is around the Titanic usually quite turbid flow.
I know a lot about someone of the last century, I happened to be in the exhibition in Hamburg (when it was still? 99? 98?) And then met with a Russian submersible was personally below. You can do this in the way, Ballard synonymous read.
"Dobby" wrote:

-> How do you do then the real wreck of this ship again, as there in the excerpt?

Morphing.
"Dobby" wrote:

And if I go through frame by frame and try to identify some changes, I must admit that there are not. Even the furniture is s.der exactly the same spot where it previously in the wreck is synonymous (just stop verottet)

In the Titanic and s.Deck is virtually not a single snippet little more wood, all of bacteria corrode. Speaks even more so that the interior shots from the wreck of "only" are CGI (höllegutgemacht!).
"Dobby" wrote:

My second question: yes, the camera rushes since formally along the corridor and then glides through this door and the stairs. Is that with a Steadycam been done?

Digital. The diving robots are governed by the staircase of the first class (including all the wood of the panels was anno 1985 on the discovery by Ballard disappeared) came into it. Re not.
"Dobby" wrote:

I think I'm possibly not the only one that interested, or does it? :-)

Pretty much everything ... digitally. But as I say well done wrong. Cameron has indeed synonymous consumes more coal than the Titanic.

Eugen

Edit: Ballard was last year or so back down (which is totally horrified because of the Leichenfledderei). It has again brought a lot of material, this time - who wondered - HD.



Antwort von DoBBy:

Thank you in advance for this info :-)
"Eugene of ..." wrote:

"Dobby" wrote:

My second question: yes, the camera rushes since formally along the corridor and then glides through this door and the stairs. Is that with a Steadycam been done?

Digital. The diving robots are governed by the staircase of the first class (including all the wood of the panels was anno 1985 on the discovery by Ballard disappeared) came into it. Re not.

Uh, I actually thought this shot, which then goes through the door and go to Jack "races". The starting around 3:05 minutes. If you're saying that even that is digital, will have even the people there digitally, or? For example, the man who "of the Camera aka Rose" opens the door, etc? And as I said above is so that the door frame, thereby Kamerakran probably not possible. Do you really the same as I do now and that is synonymous digitally? Now I can not imagine. Or you have the previous scene with the wreckage meant what digital should be. I would think you yes, but why tell the then actually in the Making-OFS that original recordings from the wreck have used, if it ultimately was computer generated? oO





Antwort von Eugen von ...:

Of course they have used images from the wreck. Orschinalen between two still images of any rusty passes you get a digital camera out so well :-)
Cameron has certainly been synonymous times "below". The synonymous certainly have a lot down there rotated. I bet, though, mostly after the set designer for "mach times here."
In Depth remains which other reason than the illumination of nothing else ... not to speak of the wrong cost. The dive cost a few years ago for 35,000 euros each private and more, perhaps 15-20 Minutes "s.Wrack". That is still the dumping price, for it creates a Russian crew.
Cameron does not even have insurance for shooting down there and get ... there is a lot of morphing, and and Green Screen and drin. The original recordings? When it comes up, 30 seconds.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi
I can imagine that the wreckage already cleanest "scan" was .... or with extra tools such as after ImageModler built ....

And it's times in 3 D is available / could make as much .....

Flying cameras can with the help of "wire rope dollies" synonymous with doors and passages can fly .....

And passengers were synonymous determined partly as a computer model used .... alone to represent the masses, is actually a more "normal" technology.

Nice movie very high-level 3D Art, and the story itself was very well designed, I knew my man so it will go under m and still could be the movie good ankucken ;-)

Alla
MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Chrissigorn123:

@ Dobby: I do look seriously believe that the scene that you think (the lobby and the stairs) with a Steadycam stinknormalen was.
Certainly the end of the digital camera just before the door or beforehand during the morphing of "old" to "new". Then the cameraman just gone through the set.

And I think that the last scene of the Titanic rotten image is a computer - how else is it possible that light falls through the windows, while the "Camera" by the window gear is rushing?
Since everything is stockduster around the wreck.
The lights had to produce in order to highlight contours.



Antwort von DoBBy:

Everyone wrote:
Morphing


Hmm, this is my new favorite s.jetzt effect:-D Question: Can After Effects Morphing? Or what program do we need this?



Antwort von Eugen von ...:

"Chrissigorn123" wrote:
how else is it possible that light falls through the windows, while the "Camera" by the window gear is rushing?

This in turn would have been possible, at least in theory: Ballard has s.einigen bodies were synonymous "Light Towers down. Whether the now for the Salvage of a few artifacts, or designed for photos, I do not know anymore.
Other recordings again emerged with a similar function, as the submersible "Alvin" for example with activated light on the boat deck "parked" while diving robot "JJ" filmend / photographer in the bodywork invaded (beautifully illustrated in R. Ballard, "The secret the Titanic, Page XIII (Figure part)). Some of these photos (or digital follow them!) Incidentally appear synonymous in the film "Titanic" again.



Antwort von -ssSonyY-:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
and the story itself was very well designed, I knew my man so it will go under m and still could be the movie good ankucken ;-)


why you betray me, I wanted to watch the movie now; P



Antwort von FunnyML:

Most wreck pictures on the television screens in the film are real pictures of the wreck. The scenes in which the robot is looking after the safe was in a water-filled set with rotated, the rest is either good working model or completely CGI.

The morphing effect is really nice, long synonymous "Helicopter Shot" is terrific! This was a huge model of the ship with motion-control cameras and shot the camera movement digitally recorded (nowadays goes with the motion tracking systems synonymous quite good). Motion-capture animated CGI people, the barge and then populated the rest of the elements added - water, smoke, spray, etc.




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