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VCR S-video capable?



Frage von Jan Müller:
Juli 2020

Hallo NG,

appropriate, OT - Sorry! If only one tiny issue.

I guess I always return from time to time, a bunch of old movies VHC-C to
Digitizer and someday to burn. On the Viedeorekorder (whose
Manual nowhere to be) to look but they are no longer --
far too cumbersome. At the "Digitalisierungsbox" is synonymous addition Composite
an S-video input.
Now my question:

Is it even likely that an approximately 10 year old VHS VCR
(Blaupunkt RTV 550) of only one scart and an RF-output has
on S-video output via scart. And it would convey a
Difference if one VHS-C, rather than with just composite with S-video transfers.

Oh and the reason of my question:

Such a Scart> S-video cable I have yet to buy :-)

TIA

Jan Müller






Antwort von Shinji Ikari:

Good day

"Jan Müller" wrote

> Now my question:
> Is it even likely that an approximately 10 year old VHS VCR
> (Blaupunkt RTV 550) of only one scart and an RF-output has
> on S-video output via scart.

No..

> And it would convey a
> Difference if one VHS-C, rather than with just composite with S-video transfers.

If the big Kabellaenge is: yes.




Antwort von Bernd Nomi:

Jan Müller wrote:
> Hallo NG,
>
> If OT - Sorry! If only one tiny issue.
>
> I guess I always return from time to time, a bunch of old movies VHC-C to
> Digitizer and someday to burn. On the Viedeorekorder (whose
> Manual is not anymore) to look but they are no longer --
> Far too cumbersome. At the "Digitalisierungsbox" is synonymous addition Composite
> S-video input.
> Now my question:
>
> Is it even likely that an approximately 10 year old VHS VCR
> (Blaupunkt RTV 550) of only one scart and an RF-output has
> On S-video output via scart.

Hello
in any case. If the S-Video would be able, he would have been 100% for
a separate socket. The S-video capable devices were mostly
"better", at S-VHS was then practically the rule.

And it would convey a
> Difference if one VHS-C, rather than with just composite with S-video transfers.
Yes, you would see a difference, if it's just synonymous with the
Play is, however, not much. If you are more tapes
Digitizer want loht it might be a really good
Recorder for at least the upper middle class to buy.









Antwort von Arne Holm:

"Bernd Nomi" wrote

> Hello
> in any case. If the S-Video would be able, if he had 100% give an
> Separate jack. The S-video capable devices were mostly
> "Better", at S-VHS was then practically the rule.

That is correct and I would add:

The advantage of S-video signal is split leadership
of luminance and chrominance (brightness and color).
S-VHS recorder, then sign the synonymous separately,
normal VHS recorder just does not understand why a
separate continuation signal is nonsensical. On the contrary,
this can even lead to the manual, with
your video made, not cuts
be clean.





Antwort von Benjamin Spitschan:

Arne Holm wrote:
> The advantage of S-video signal is split leadership
> Of luminance and chrominance (brightness and color).

False, the advantage is on the tape * * a significantly higher bandwidth
of luma and chroma and a slightly better SNR. Only then
is it worth anything, Y'C separated them.

> S-VHS recorder, then sign the synonymous separately,
> Normal VHS recorder does not,

Widespread misconception: Yes, they do. Only the signals at VHS
grottig are such that there is nothing more synonymous would benefit, they separated
zu-/rauszuspielen.

Regards, Benjamin




Antwort von Arne Holm:

"Benjamin Spitschan" wrote

>> The advantage of S-video signal is split leadership
>> Of luminance and chrominance (brightness and color).
>
> Wrong, the advantage is on the tape * * a significantly higher bandwidth
> Of luma and chroma and a slightly better SNR. Only then
> Is it worth anything, Y'C separated them.

I wrote of the advantages of S-video, not of S-VHS.
The higher bandwidth is necessary, that's true of course.
5.5 MHz, if I remember rightly, derhalb needs
is synonymous better band material.

>> S-VHS recorder, then sign the synonymous separately,
>> Normal DVD recorder does not,
>
> Widespread misconception: Yes, they do. Only the signals at VHS
> Grottig are such that there is nothing more synonymous would benefit, they separated
> Zu-/rauszuspielen.

Thanks for the correction.





Antwort von Bernd Nomi:

Benjamin Spitschan wrote:
> Arne Holm wrote:
>> The advantage of S-video signal is split leadership
>> Of luminance and chrominance (brightness and color).
>
> Wrong, the advantage is on the tape * * a significantly higher bandwidth
> Of luma and chroma and a slightly better SNR. Only then
> Is it worth anything, Y'C separated them.
>
>> S-VHS recorder, then sign the synonymous separately,
>> Normal DVD recorder does not,
>
> Widespread misconception: Yes, they do. Only the signals at VHS
> Grottig are such that there is nothing more synonymous would benefit, they separated
> Zu-/rauszuspielen.

Apropos grottige signals. I have a lot oller VHS, S-VHS and Betamax
Digitized video and while the beta with few problems were
VHS delivered the famous mud. As always synonymous, I have then a
ELRO video limiter between playing the recorder and the digital
Camcorders (A / D conversion) and was running a significant
Achieve image enhancement. The picture was much clearer and especially the
Edges have been calmer. Some stand-alone DVD-Burners have very synonymous
good signal conditioning. We had the times in a large
Video Studio with different devices tested, the result was really
staggering. The sharpness was established by the looping of the signal much
better. I would say there were differences as the difference
between composite video and "Component", that is significant. Indeed
I would not have such a DVD recorder to buy because I like the
Things not because they sound foul




Antwort von Heiko Nocon:

Jan Müller wrote:

> Is it even likely that an approximately 10 year old VHS VCR
> (Blaupunkt RTV 550) of only one scart and an RF-output has
> on S-video output via scart.

No.. Typically, only S-VHS Recorder S-Video signal.

There were probably a few times synonymous normal VHS recorder, a
S-video signal output could, but technically makes no sense
qualitätsbeschränkende because the factor is not the transmission
, but the actual recording from the VHS standard. This is
shit so that a subsequent transfer via composite it synonymous
no longer can do worse.

> And it would convey a
> Difference if one VHS-C, rather than with just composite with S-video transfers.

No..





Antwort von Jan Müller:


"Bernd Nomi" wrote in news post
Re: S-Video VCR =? ISO-8859-1? Q? E4hig = f = 3F ?=###

> If you want more cassette Digitizer, loht is
> Maybe a really good recorder for at least the upper
> Middle class to buy.

I had already tuned synonymous thought. Be my times around.
At first glance it seems to me, however, synonymous that Composite and S-Video
here is not so different "perform".
I just wanted to drauflosdigitalisieren and not only from the best, which I
Reports like this, listen: "Would prefer times with S-video made"

Thank you for your notes / ideas / suggestions (for thread up and
runter :-)

Jan





Antwort von Dennis Reinhardt:

Bernd Nomi wrote:

> Apropos grottige signals. I have a lot oller VHS, S-VHS and Betamax
> Videos and digitized during the beta it with little problems,
> VHS delivered the famous mud. As always synonymous, I have then a
> ELRO video limiter between playing the recorder and the digital
> Camcorders (A / D conversion) and was running a significant
> Achieve image enhancement. The picture was much clearer and especially the
> Edges were quiet. Some stand-alone DVD-Burners have very synonymous
> Good signal conditioning. We had the times in a large
> Video Studio with different devices tested, the result was really
> Staggering. The sharpness was established by the looping of the signal much
> Better. I would say there were differences as the difference
> Between composite video and "Component", that is significant. Indeed
> I would not have such a DVD recorder to buy because I like the
> Things not because they sound foul

Because I would have synonymous again one question:

I have a ~ 8 year old Daewoo VCR ... zero clue whether and
even if what the good work he is doing, at least yet. If you
Now as I old sweetie has to VHS either ollen VHC-C
Cameras come on DVD or niemalsnicht get out what I take
because if I want to purchase s.besten when I have it s.günstig
wants, or b) as much as possible from the picture and sound still would like to save?
Analog Videograbber will be presented to a yes after being missed, and the
Dual-Core Calculator have enough power to even 25fps MJPEG
or so now mitzugrabben, but my AMD64 notebook with 1.8 GHz
there still does not 100% with. Gibts da s.Recorder and
Digitizing solution which is usable?

Gruß, Dennis




Antwort von Volker Schauff:

Jan Müller wrote:

> Is it even likely that an approximately 10 year old VHS VCR
> (Blaupunkt RTV 550) of only one scart and an RF-output has
> On S-video output via scart. And it would convey a
> Difference if one VHS-C, rather than with just composite with S-video transfers.

The device is identical to the Panasonic NV-SD30. One of the old Panasonic
Garde, a hi-fi equipment ... but not a S-VHS. And the S-video cable
not for nothing called colloquially synonymous "S-VHS cable. I still
no DVD device meets the S-Video has. You can not, but
may be better than a cheap S-VHS recorder

Whether it brings what? Depends. More important is the recorder, and the
is good. Incidentally Tip: If you have the recorder still somewhere on the
Edit mode can make (some Panasonics is the
Strangely switch back, the NV-HS1000 is the label still
strange, since the Edit button, the two positions
cut-of importance, namely, player and recorder, and
one, the building of technical importance, namely passive) mach es
(This is to recognize: The Sharpness control, if any, has expired).
Thus, the analog Bildverbesserer off. That means the
Picture roars over (would be bad if you directly aufnimmst MPEG), is
but sharper and more detailed. If you aufnimmst uncompressed,
the noise you can with Virtual Dub eliminate reserves but
the details, otherwise the Bildverbesserer plattbügelt (Details are
not the same sharpness, with the focus knob on the right is the attack
Picture sharper than with Edit, usually even überschärft, fine details,
especially in the Color, are still the devil)

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Antwort von Volker Schauff:

Bernd Nomi wrote:

> in any case. If the S-Video would be able, he would have been 100% for
> A separate socket. The S-video capable devices were mostly
> "Better", at S-VHS was then practically the rule.

Not really. The last JVC S-VHS units of the super savings Version
(External pfui inside hui - that is not even more of a counter in
Display, but only in the OSD, no S-video input in the front AV
no separate S-Video Out socket, use technically absolute affront,
but damn good picture and even properly processed) had no
S-Video output more, but were nevertheless capable of S-video. Halt on Scart.

Once again confirmed: All generalizations are wrong ;-)

But in principle you're right, if the device S-video, it is in the
Generally synonymous as a separate output, but there are times now exceptions, the
the rule. And if the connection is not there, then
at least one switch s.Gerät or in the OSD menu, the device must be yes
know what it via scart rausgibt.

--
Gruß ... Volker Schauff (thunderbird.elite @ t-online.de, ICQ 22823502)
www.cavalry-command.de - About Saber Rider and other 80s series
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Antwort von Volker Schauff:

Bernd Nomi wrote:

> VHS delivered the famous mud. As always synonymous, I have then a
> ELRO video limiter between playing the recorder and the digital
> Camcorders (A / D conversion) and was running a significant
> Achieve image enhancement. The picture was much clearer and especially the
> Edges were quiet.

Okay, Bernd Nomi is Bojasch Lutz and Günter Hackl has been the
third name / pseudonym under which I please, with this statement times
Screenshots to show.

A stabilization through the mere Rebuild the sync pulses are
not possible, except perhaps the equipment is broken.

Especially since your statements by this touch of American
Homeshopping shows ( "In the beginning I was skeptical, but when I
Results have seen, I knew there's nothing better ") hardly
credible look as Elro itself, which even one of their devices
than analog television firewall against viruses offer.

--
Gruß ... Volker Schauff (thunderbird.elite @ t-online.de, ICQ 22823502)
www.cavalry-command.de - About Saber Rider and other 80s series
foren.cavalry-command.de - Forum for Spät70er - early-90s TV nostalgists
www.dark-realms.de - For fantasy / medieval times and all sorts of creative




Antwort von Thomas Beyer:

Volker Schauff wrote:

> Bernd Nomi wrote:
>
>> VHS delivered the famous mud. As always synonymous, I have then a
>> Video Limiter ELRO between playing the recorder and the digital
>> Camcorders (A / D conversion) and was running a significant
>> Image improvement achieved. The picture was much clearer and especially the
>> Edges were quiet.

> Okay, Bernd Nomi is Bojasch Lutz and Günter Hackl has been the
> Third name / pseudonym under which I please, with this statement times
> Screenshots to show.

Borderline syndrome, multiple personality with a tendency towards electronic
Music: http://www.cyborgs.de/synthesizer/cd/__musik.htm

On his internet history:
http://www.yasni.de/person/bojasch/lutz/lutz-bojasch.htm

... I would in any case not always with ELRO outing because,
then help new nick name synonymous nothing. :)

Regards,
Thomas




Antwort von Bernd Daene:

Ralf wrote:
> ...
> The videotape, however, was of type Video 2000. With the S-VHS
> Transfer, I had a fabulous sharpness ...

Maybe do you S-Video? But did the V2000 device ever
an S-video output? Was there at that time already? Or do you have a
Transfer of V2000 S-VHS, ie of a tape to another?

> - And now the big
> But: The video was shot only in black and white transfer.

Then it was either the output of the player or the input of the
Record not to S-video or may not be capable.
Or the scart cable was not vollbelegt if this applies to S-Video
via scart should go.

Bernd




Antwort von Ralf:

Bernd Daens wrote:
> Then it was either the output of the player or the input of the
> Record not to S-video or may not be capable.
> Or the scart cable was not vollbelegt if this applies to S-Video
> Via Scart should go.
>
>
> Bernd
Just the suspicion I had synonymous. The video was in fact about
Scart Adapter with Male to 3x RCA S Video cable. I
have as well in my S-VHS and S-Video confused. da
I thought this would be the same.

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After letters without spaces:

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Antwort von Bernd Daene:

Ralf wrote:
> ... I
>'ve Probably because in my S-VHS and S-Video confused. da
> I thought this would be the same.

This is perfectly normal, because it is many places s.sehr wrong.
But for color images with S-video you need the S-video mode
on both sides, because changing the plug adapter synonymous nix dran.
If the player does not S-Video provides, remains the chroma-pin
silent halt.

Bernd




Antwort von Bernd Nomi:

Bernd Daens wrote:
> Ralf wrote:
>> ...
>> The videotape, however, was of type Video 2000. With the S-VHS
>> Transfer, I had a fabulous sharpness ...
>
> Maybe do you S-Video? But did the V2000 device ever
> A S-video output? Was there at that time already?

I am almost certain that it was not yet there. The devices
had 1 or 2Scart jacks or perhaps in addition
BNC connectors for video and RCA for sound. Then there was this still synonymous
Euro-AV jacks (5 or 6-pin "DIN sockets))




Antwort von Benjamin Spitschan:

Bernd Nomi wrote:
> [...] Then there was still synonymous these Euro-AV jacks (5 or 6-pin "DIN sockets))

Euro Scart AV =!

Regards, Benjamin




Antwort von Thomas Beyer:

Benjamin Spitschan wrote:

> Bernd Nomi wrote:
>> [...] Then there was still synonymous these Euro-AV jacks (5 or 6-pin "DIN sockets))
>
> Euro-AV Scart =!

Jupp. The 5poligen was called in my youth (TM) umgangssprachlich
Diode plug / sockets diodes (correct: DIN Male DIN 41524):

http://www.elektron-bbs.de/elektronik/kabel/audio/din.htm

They are of Telefunken created at a time, since we thought rather
s.die conquest of Moscow than to video transfers.

Regards,
Thomas




Antwort von Benjamin Spitschan:

Thomas Beyer wrote:
> Jupp. The 5poligen was called in my youth (TM) umgangssprachlich
> Diode plug / sockets diodes (correct: DIN Male DIN 41524):

ACK. And although "Diode plug" because they were originally the first time on
Output of radio receivers for use and there came the signal to
Demodulationsdiode the taps.

Regards, Benjamin









Antwort von Bernd Nomi:

Benjamin Spitschan wrote:
> Bernd Nomi wrote:
>> [...] Then there was still synonymous these Euro-AV jacks (5 or 6-pin "DIN sockets))
>
> Euro-AV Scart =!

Sorry, I meant the round 6-pin sockets, but the hot yes DIN AV




Antwort von Sven_Bötcher:

Thomas Beyer wrote:
> Volker Schauff wrote:
>
>> Bernd Nomi wrote:
>>
>>> Delivered the famous VHS slush. As always synonymous, I have then a
>>> ELRO video limiter between playing the recorder and the digital
>>> Camcorder (A / D conversion) and was running a significant
>>> Achieve image enhancement. The picture was much clearer and especially the
>>> Edges were quiet.
>
>> Okay, Bernd Nomi is Bojasch Lutz and Günter Hackl has been the
>> Third name / pseudonym under which I please, with this statement times
>> Screenshots to show.
>
> Borderline syndrome, multiple personality with a tendency towards electronic
> Music: http://www.cyborgs.de/synthesizer/cd/__musik.htm
>
> On his internet history:
> http://www.yasni.de/person/bojasch/lutz/lutz-bojasch.htm

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Of you entered the web address is not on our website.

Bye
Sven





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