Infoseite // VX 1000e Ext Microsystems, takes on but no sound output via Audio Out



Frage von hellh12:


Hi folks,

have your tremendous Tonproblem if I have an ext. Micro s.The s.meine VX 1000E mini-jack subscribe, it absorbs the sound, but I can not play it then neither player has a DV camera audio out. But when I connect the camera via firewire s.den Calculator I can hear the sound clearly and distinctly. Wherein lies the problem and how can I fix it?

Need urgent help.

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

The VX1000 has, depending on setting 2 (= stereo, 16 bit) or 4 audio channels (= 2x stereo, 12 bit). By default, the setting 12-bit, but played only the first two channels, the other two remain free for a possible audio dubbing on the same tape.

Via Firewire, most video editing programs capture only the first two sound channels. The other two (if any) remain unnoticed.

On the other hand you can with the analog sound output set in the menu that sound channels (1 +2 or 3 +4) You want to listen to what proportion. When the slider all the way here is at 3 +4, the analog sound output remains silent, as these tracks are empty.

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,
Many thanks for the explanation, this may indeed be related to the Camera and I will check the synonymous times, but unfortunately that does not really help me next, I'm working with one prof. Editing Recorder (SONY DVCAM DSR 80 P) show me all 4 audio tracks, but unfortunately I did on the tracks 1 +2 only vague noisy (useless) sound signals) and 3 +4 the tracks seem to be empty. The sound is definitely on it just (only via Firewire). Just so I can not cut. Can I change something s.der camera so the ext. Microtone on the working channels 1 +2 will be included?

Greeting
hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

"hellh12" wrote: Can I change something s.der camera so the ext. Microtone on the working channels 1 +2 will be included?
No, because the sound is always automatically recorded on channels 1 +2.

Place the sound s.Camcorders by storm on 16 bit and try it with them. As the recording actually sounds when you subtract the external microphone with the camcorder and your are capturing?

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,

the sound recordings with the Micro Intl completely normal, no problem, but in an interview, etc. I need nen ext. Micro. You write, the sound of the car shot in channel 1 +2, but there is at ext. Micro no usable sound, as I understand it? Can it have to do with that I for the ext. Put a stereo micro blade for nen Monomicro have? I also soldered my little Jack to XLR cable itself and I do not know whether the Micro input must be angeschloßßen s.Camcorders Symmetric or asymmetric. What I did is still not clear why I have a clear sound through the Firewire connection?

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

"hellh12" wrote: Can it have to do with that I for the ext. Put a stereo micro blade for nen Monomicro have? I also soldered my little Jack to XLR cable itself and I do not know whether the Micro input must be angeschloßßen s.Camcorders Symmetric or asymmetric.
The microphone input of the VX2100 is unbalanced, as with any consumer camcorder. How did you get the XLR-jack cable interconnected?

So it should be:
XLR jack soldered on itself

The phasengedrehte signal (- Live) is merged with the masses and only the correct phase signal (+ Live) - is passed next to the mass - s.den jack.

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,

yes this is what I soldered the two, must indeed be synonymous true, because I Ahbe a clean sound (unfortunately only via Firewire). but would have to be. Now, the question still remains: Where does the sound forth via firewire? On channels 1 +2 is on the cutting Recorder hardly a rash, completely empty on 3 +4.

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

After all, what you have written so far, I suspect the cause is somewhere between Microphone and camcorder. The reproduction of the images with built-in microphone is possible, as desired, but not with an external microphone.

If it is a balanced XLR microphone (mono)? Otherwise, we may need to rethink the wiring of the XLR jack adapter.

At first, I have had the suspicion that you might the wrong adapter connected. If you do not output the correct phase of one signal on the Page and on the other phasengedrehte Page to a speaker, then the result may sound strange to interference in fact. However, it would still open the question of why the sound is heard only by analogy so strange, but once he was not gecapturet via firewire?

S.alle Question: What have we overlooked?

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,
erstmal many thanks for your effort, so it is a balanced Micro've synonymous auspobiert a trial basis for a second Microsystems, same result (unfortunately). What interests me in the first place: Where is the sound that I can play out via firewire? 1 +2 and sound muffled sound chopped 3 +4 NOTHING.

Unfortunately, the camera via Firewire works only as synonymous NTSC version so I can not use the picture, so the work is thus synonymous with great difficulty. Incidentally have the Tonproblem synonymous if I have a external audio source on the mic. INPUT jack (but is synonymous, the same clutch mini-jack to XLR), maybe I should try it once ne other wiring, but which?

I'm still grateful for every tip

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

"hellh12" wrote: Incidentally have the Tonproblem synonymous if I have a external audio source on the mic. INPUT jack (but is synonymous, the same clutch mini-jack to XLR), maybe I should try it once ne other wiring, but which?
Could you try it, perhaps with a consumer with an asymmetrical microphone jack?

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,

Perhaps we are getting closer slowly, have tried it with just a simple Ansteckmicro and lo and behold, I have a sound. What can you conclude from this? Is my wiring wrong? If so, how do I solder them properly?

Greeting
hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

If you are the XLR jack adapter so you were wired as described in the above link (1 +3 on the shaft, 2) on top, then there is really nothing wrong.

Do you have the adapter times durchgemessen? Does the XLR Microphone s.einem XLR connector (eg, an audio mixer) properly?

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,
have both Micros s.einer proff. Camera w / XLR In and tested to work perfectly. Durchgemessen ads I have cable yet, but what I do not understand, I get the sound so clear and distinct (via Firewire) vo is the only tape on?

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

"hellh12" wrote: ... what I do not understand, I have the sound so clear and distinct (via Firewire) vo is the only tape on?
That is the question for which I have no answer synonymous. ;-)

Perhaps we come closer to the solution if you have durchgemessen the adapter.

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Mark and all who are interrested,

rumgeötet now have a little bit, and my result is shown soldering the adapter, so mono to XLR so I can get a clean signal to Audio 1.

Nevertheless, I'm still inexplicable where the recorded sound is that I cut through the recorder can neither see nor hear, but can encode clean over Firewire.

Greeting

helhl12

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Antwort von Markus:

TIFF images are not properly lighter work here (although they should). Please save the image file again from a JPEG.

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi,

where is the problem? I can see the picture perfectly, but here again as a JPEG

Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

As you had done for the circuit using the stereo jack?

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Antwort von hellh12:

Hi Markus,

XLR to 1 +3 Shield, 2 1. on Life The 2 pole of the latch was open.
Greeting hellh12

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Antwort von Markus:

Very strange! - Well, at least, you have a adapter that works. : D

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Antwort von hellh12:

Yes, I'm happy about it synonymous,
only is still not answered my question, what has happened to the sound that I can encode via Firewire.

Perhaps there still someone who can instruct me in the infinite secrets of the magnetic tape

gruß hellh12

And thank you erstmal

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