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Frage von mauriceg@gmx.de:


Hi folks,

which device you need to drop-outs in a video signal shocks?

I have a Panasonic NV-HS1000 EGC "and a Datavideo DAC-100. At each drop-out or analog cut it to "stay". The internal TBC Panasonic begins unfortunately not.

Greeting
Alex

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi Alex,

TBC no drop-outs can catch because they do not screen content, but only sync signals are replaced. This would require an error correction is necessary, as in digital playback devices will be deployed. In the case of a Hi8 digitization would be therefore a Digital8 camcorder with playback option for analog recording.

Since you give a SVHS recorder to use, would be best if DVHS still in question. Thus, I have no experience and therefore do not know if the trick with the digital recorder also works there.

From experience I can say that it is a challenge unbewältigbare, consumer films, which were created by analogy Assembleschnitt, completely bug-free digitizer. Since switches between the synchronization of each scene, making it s.den scene always go to disruption. This helps only one thing: Different search on the recorder and see what a cut s.schnellsten shows no interference.

Really perfect, the result is unfortunately not the case. That is the great flaw in Assemble-cut video.

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Antwort von mauriceg@gmx.de:

@ Markus: a really great explanation of the Probs with Assembleschnitten.

But I have as a club video of a friend that I wanted digitizer, the analogy with some semi (!!!) mastered editing system and was overdubbed. On the audio track is music, for example by disruption and on the video track was unsynchronised sources together cut. On Television looks like a normal hard-cut, but the DAC brings in the beat! Ie Picture and sound freeze for about 1 / 2 second a! This is the current film is very disturbing!

Why should the with Assembleschnitten and after drop-outs do not work? This is just the right s.die hardware, within a half (ie within 20 ms) synchronization to a new set. My Pinnacle TV card can easily Curiously, for example! When I look at the DAC instead of setting up again but I have this A / V Synchronitätsprobleme: ~ (

Greeting
Alex

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Antwort von Markus:

"Alex" wrote: Why should the with Assembleschnitten and after drop-outs do not work? This is just the right s.die hardware, within a half (ie within 20 ms) synchronization to a new set.
The synchronization problem is often more than one consecutive half, as the host recorder (Consumer technology is) not necessarily from the first Field s.sauber has. A television is quite well off, but once an A / D converter comes into play, unfortunately the thing looks different.

"Alex" wrote: My Pinnacle TV card can easily Curiously, for example! When I look at the DAC instead of setting up again but I have this A / V Synchronitätsprobleme.
Then, so the sound (of the sound card?) Next digitized, while the Picture paused briefly to sync to the new place? That would not be untypical.

Sorry, but a perfectly workable solution, I can in this case you do not deliver. :-(

... although I must try it out, what my video card with cut-assemble VHS material makes. The synonymous mW has a great video capture for dirty, but since I've ADVC-300, I use the analog inputs barely.

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Antwort von mdb:

"Mark" wrote: TBC no drop-outs can catch because they do not screen content, but only sync signals are replaced.

The TBC, one of the SONY BVUs belonged, could very well be. There were s.der U-matic extra an RF-OUT (direct signal from the video head). The TBC where recognized the drop-out and then repeated the last line.

"Mark" wrote: From experience I can say that it is a challenge unbewältigbare, consumer films, which were created by analogy Assembleschnitt, completely bug-free digitizer. Since switches between the synchronization of each scene, making it s.den scene always go to disruption.
With Snell & Wilcox Kudos TBC I always had a clean video, no preference was on the VHS tape was. The image content, however, could be disrupted (a frame without the color or something). But who can already afford ...

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Antwort von Markus:

Now we are quickly into the consumer-professional stock changed. - Alex, this area is ( "it cost what it wants") for you synonymous interesting?

"mdb" wrote: The TBC, one of the SONY BVUs belonged ...
To make the D8 camcorder for Video8-/Hi8-Wiedergabe synonymous. However, there is sometimes the result of such third repetition and the looks are no longer synonymous good. : - /

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Antwort von Anne_trister:

"Mark" wrote: Now we are quickly into the consumer-professional stock changed. - Alex, this area is ( "it cost what it wants") for you synonymous interesting?
No, definitely not! But I can not simply declare the following:

If I sat with an analog receiver by Programs "Grid" is created each time a short sync errors. The same happened when VHS Assembleschnitten. At 50Hz the roll-Television Picture then a few frames (maybe 2 or 3) until the new Television Sync has caught. A VHS recording from synonymous changes nothing, because only the simple FBAS "streamed" is. If I point the DAC-100 connect (no preference whether or not intervening VHS), consists of about 1 sec off (Picture and Sound). My TV card is there but no problems, ie the picture looks exactly like s.TV! The start produced the internal s.and not even drop frames. The converter is synonymous quality no worse than the DAC. Only the sound through the sound card is sub-optimal regarding synchronicity.

Is there any converter that looks like a Broktree TV card works, but an internal audio device coupled bring? Then all problems would be solved.

Greeting
Alex [/ b]

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Antwort von Anne_trister:

Hello again,

I have the solution!

The new Panasonic NV-HS1000 runs with TBC activated through S-Video s.der Pinnacle TV card. With VirtualDub is the synchronicity of the sound card perfect! The audio stream (16bit 48kHz Stereo) by resampling s.den slightly different beat of the TV card adapted. Then I compress with the Panasonic DV codec in real time. Then filtered:
- Separate Fields
- With Falxens VHS corrects the color shift, all other filter off, which only produce crap
- Easier Temporal Smoother (4)
- Fields back Weaver

Drop-outs handled the TV card without any problems.
The result is a perfect DV-Avi, the qualitätiv is better than the original material!

Greeting
Alex

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