Infoseite // Vista or XP for DV editing?



Frage von Maex:


Servus,

I've now Ettlich test reports and forum threads can read and not green branch ...

Ne of you would believe in the "Vista or XP" - question ...

Usage:
-! DV editing (Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, vllt. Avid Xpress)!
(((-Gamen (Crysis, Quake, etc.) surfing, chat, etc. etc.)))

Claim s.das System:
Quick
stable
graphic user interface-no preference! (such as which window is aufklappt wurst)

Hardware:
-Asus Striker Extreme
-Q6600
4GB-Ram
-8800 GTX 768MB

Like I said, it is actually just as much performance s.and that the system stable läuft.Viele say Vista 64 others say Vista 32 or 64 because of too few programs support ... others say turn xp but I did not support for my 4gb ram ... oh I have bursts of skull

I would be happy about your opinions!
Greeting Mäx

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

I never touch Vista again, unless I am forced to do so sometime.

My opinion, therefore, quite clear: XP Professional and if you have drivers for your components get the same take the X64 Edition.

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Antwort von exit:maria:

although most programs are running at 32bit and of the 64er version only be simulated? (so I understand)

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Anonymous" wrote: although most programs are running at 32bit and of the 64er version only be simulated? (so I understand)
Programs are of the 64-bit version simulates? Where did you do that for her?

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

In principle yes, but now there is a lot of software that supports XP64. 32 bit is 32 bit of course, if the XP on 64-bit port would it could be used in a number of programs synonymous with unpleasant side effects come.

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Antwort von asdf:

if one of 32bit to 64 bit will change because everything you need to re-up or you can just upgrade it?

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Antwort von Flati:

"smooth-Appeal wrote: I never touch Vista again, unless I am forced to do so sometime.
Have a reason for synonymous or are simply not able to deal come about?

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Antwort von C.I.W:

So I would prefer to synonymous finger of Vista can. The mistaken eats a lot of RAM. What do you 4GB when Vista berreits 1Gb need in normal operation. I'm going to get for my next purchase XP Professional.

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Antwort von Flati:

Vista dieSpeicherbelegung directed by the calculator installed memory size. 4 GB in Vista can only operate in 64 bit and since Vista takes 757 MB of RAM, but this will rarely Pagedateien on the slower hard drive outsourced, making the system much faster. Vista 32 bit takes the 3.5 GB of RAM 549 MB. Vista 64 bit is really only what s.einen memory above 4 GB is used and provided that all hardware and software is compatible.
I still see no argument against what Vista speaks during cutting.

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Antwort von exit:maria:

"CIW" wrote: So I would prefer to synonymous finger of Vista can. The mistaken eats a lot of RAM. What do you 4GB when Vista berreits 1Gb need in normal operation. I'm going to get for my next purchase XP Professional.

The CIW is buying itself will shortly table a calculator of Dell ... or a laptop ... or maybe even synonymous nix. Maybe just open up a new thread. In any case, he has powerful idea!

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Antwort von C.I.W:

Why me you actually run the whole time afterwards? Do you have nothing better to do?

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

"asdf" wrote: if one of 32bit to 64 bit will change because everything you need to re-up or you can just upgrade it?

Yes, it must be reinstalled.

"Flati" wrote: "smooth-Appeal wrote: I never touch Vista again, unless I am forced to do so sometime.
Have a reason for synonymous or are simply not able to deal come about?


Several even, on the one hand, it is in comparison to XP significantly slower. Even the hard drive which is experienced. This can not really at a 7.2 k or 10k plate but it is definitely so. On the other hand, it is an OS for idiots. "Do you want to really move the files?", "Administrator access allows" ... Because the only thing left is missing:

"Are you quite sure?" - "Really" Yes / No and then a blue screen:-D

For me personally, this operating system has not only brought improvement. The other might perhaps take a different view but I stand by my opinion. Vista sucks!

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Antwort von Flati:

@ smooth-appeal
Your contribution makes it clear that you get with Vista is not really set you apart. Dir of the above queries can be easily and permanently off. Your throw-in terms of hard, I can even benchmark due to a back basket.
And the blue screen is called its base had.
I think just the so-called Vista opponent never really intense with Vista apart and therefore legally have gladly stay with Windows XP, which is certainly not bad, but an argument against Vista when DV editing is not.

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

I realize that you can turn off the queries, I made even before the whole of the plate is flown ;-)

That with your benchmark, I can not quite believe I have even run a test and write the files were desöfteren burglaries throughput to observe it in XP, so definitely do not exist.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

So, my Vista64 system for DV editing runs really stable and super-powerful. The best video editing system that I ever had. The usual anti-Vista Gelaber I can not * personally * nachhvollziehen.

A - from ursprgl. Fear - the same calculator WinXP32 installed - runs on video inperformanter (synonymous but not bad).

The configuration of the foot is 100% stable (which I had never been!)

PS. For older USB devices you have to reckon that you do not have Vista (64)-driver gets. Concerned with me web cam and scanner. That is the only negative thing I can report regarding Vista.

Conclusion: So, I would definitely return to the Vista DV editing calculator set.

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Antwort von theorizee:

"immanuelkant" wrote: So, my Vista64 system for DV editing runs really stable and super-powerful. The best video editing system that I ever had. The usual anti-Vista Gelaber I can not * personally * nachhvollziehen. Uh ... Problem: AVID supports Vista.
Result: Does not ...
That means in the professional field of Vista is taboo,
with Pinnacle because there is nobody there from.

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Antwort von Flati:

Gradually, there will be madness, there is probably only Avid "in the professional field." LOL
Why always unsuspecting "guests" to excel remains a mystery to me.

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Antwort von benni - ahnungsloser gast:

Quote: Gradually, there will be madness, there is probably only Avid "in the professional field." LOL

I hardly think that it so what to do. but a pinnacle studio wasauchimmer on such a system run is a joke somewhere. Studio 7 with I began to edit videos. in the studio producing the front and rear is missing. if you experienced is something we want to stop but then the functional scope of an avid, app, vegas, Final Cut Pro ...

Quote: Why always unsuspecting "guests" to excel remains a mystery to me.
what exactly do you want us as a registered forum member "with your witty" comments

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Antwort von Flati:

If you ever noticed the premiere certainly not a toy?
Vegas also runs under Vista flawlessly.
My comment regarding "host" refers to the fact that when a thread is fed without arguments, this is primarily of unregistered (anonymous) guests is made.

Ultimately schreibsr You:
Quote: Uh ... Problem: AVID supports Vista.
Result: Does not ...
That means in the professional field of Vista is taboo,

And care nothing as you ONLY Avid as "professional tool" significant.

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Antwort von Moviedet:

Only the sake of good order ... Ulead Media Studio 7.3 runs under Vista are not synonymous. Vegas 8 course without problems.
I have Vista Home Premium on my new Acer Aspire 9920G-703G50MN notebook. For Acer XP is no device driver available.
VISTA is opposed to the installation of system-related freeware, such as firewalls, zickt and some codecs for most external defragmentation programs, etc.! What I really like, for example, is the quick capture of all files on external hard disks for example. Man, after the SP1 to see how it goes next. Who remembers even today s.Windows ME? ;-))

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Look on the FTP server of Acer after the XP drivers, because you could still find.

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Antwort von theorizee:

I've been using Vista x64 and the Adobe range. Does everything well, had the same Prozossor, a worse graphics card, but 2GB more RAM (which is no preference, as the Adobe products always detect only 4GB).
Runs very good and stable.

Crysis, what you ansprichst has a 64bit mode, so synonymous is running better.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Moviedet" wrote: ... Who remembers today still s.Windows ME? ;-))
I, and I do this even with great joy: Without my experiences with ME, I would be perhaps not as rapidly converted to the Mac ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von theorizee:

"Moviedet" wrote: [...] Who remembers today still s.Windows ME? ;-))

Moment ... there was something ...

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:-D

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

@ Bernd: Is not it boring if you no longer need to worry about problems ;-)

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Antwort von Uwe:

"Anonymous" wrote: I've been using Vista x64 and the Adobe range. Does everything well ....

I can confirm. Each program in the CS3 Production Studio works like a charm. Sure there are plugins + Programs, which under Vista is not yet running. But is this the fault of MS, or a failure of the respective software companies?

For me, for example, is angry that Edius is still not Vista compatible - I agree but the schwarezen Peter clearly s.Grass Valley.

Amusing yet again how everything is repeated. What was rumgenöhlt came as Xp;) The time will come, then, most of Vista with Sp1 or Sp2 on it already - and will again someday come a new BS. Then the whole game in front of ....

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"smooth-Appeal wrote: @ Bernd: Is not it boring if you no longer need to worry about problems ;-)
There is already prepared, we have in the family have a XP Calculator as a last relic of Windows ... the time keeps me pretty well up to speed! ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

The thread question is: Vista or XP! Nobody has asked you to Mac. So blast here not with the thread on your wisdom. Thank you!

PS. Yes, everything here is repeating itself and it is annoying!

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"immanuelkant" wrote: ... blast the thread here is not with your wisdom on ...
But, but, Mr Kant, so why the same categorical imperative? ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von naside-88:

Maybe Vista is just abgekackt:-D

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

@ Mäx

Gude So I advise always to alternate BS whenever there is a SP.

Ultimately I get Vista, but after several tests (and yes, I think that I know of) for a more "Win ME" variant.

It only comes with some "hacker" tricks against the system and I think the normal user here with an XP solution is better advised.

Since I am a fetishist multiprocessor board will not synonymous DUO s in question but just normal 3.2 s or just P4 Xeons. The run is very stable and fulfill the service. The hunt for the fastest best I have been abandoned years ago and support these non-synonymous.

64bit to synonymous, I can only say .... wait a little until that time everything has set.
Personally, I've never met someone I was able to prove his "oh so great" Vista 64bit quad faster / better than my systems. You must be synonymous its software can be mastered and what brings me to render a fast system if I have to create a spline animation need 3 days? But then in about 40 minutes faster render .... I can sleep when ever render ( "According to my grandmother and I then synonymous to nix" :-)

Conclusion = No clear to Vista (as long as there is no SP1), and particularly as a user of this Comparison ask.

@ Flati
Do you know, unfortunately, not everyone is enthusiastic users here "Hackers" and has not synonymous with time itself admin rights etc and look at this. This time you can not forget. Ordinary citizen who just wants to I Net and his photos to the PC wants can still be satisfied with Vista. But for the slightly longer expects the XP you should probably lay nearer. Everyone was already Longhorn variants tested and is employed with the matter can or wants to can, of course synonymous one Vista system will run.

@ MAC User
Vista has always Faall no chance against your system as it currently is, therefore, very shaky. A MAC, but as a general alternative to Windows-based systems, I recommend getting as not correct. MAC s are in professional hands and not in consumer offices. And who is a well-constituted win network-based system at home has in any case keep up with you! (Especially what the price performance variant is concerned)

@ All
For each of the more extra His wishes, which can with a Linux variant to play. Here too, Win / Mac PROGIS emulate the system and may, at any of the individual wishes to be matched exactly.

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Antwort von Flati:

Quote: Ultimately I get Vista, but after several tests (and yes, I think that I know of) for a more "Win ME" variant.
This sentence demonstrates that you are not familiar with Vista.

Quote: It only comes with some "hacker" tricks of the system against ...

What a nonsense.

Quote: @ Flati
Do you know, unfortunately, not everyone is enthusiastic users here "Hackers" and has not synonymous with time itself admin rights etc and look at this. This time you can not forget. Ordinary citizen who just wants to I Net and his photos to the PC wants can still be satisfied with Vista. But for the slightly longer expects the XP you should probably lay nearer. Everyone was already Longhorn variants tested and is employed with the matter can or wants to can, of course synonymous one Vista system will run.

You need neither hackers nor a pro, the tips are within 30 seconds in Google to find and are really easy to understand. Anyone capable of a PC to run Vista capable synonymous accordingly.

Conclusion for me when I read your post: You try your outdated system for yourself nice to talk. The P4 is not a 3.2 times rudimentary s.die current Core synonymous approaching you should be clear, but apparently you have not yet properly addressed. Look at the times relevant tests and benchmarks. Likewise relating to 64bit.

Quote: Conclusion = No clear to Vista (as long as there is no SP1), and particularly as a user of this Comparison ask.

Super! :-)
Which brings change the SP1 when it is at once makes interesting for you? (PS: The experienced user has already installed SP1 for Vista).

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Antwort von naside-88:

@ Flati

Well if you believe that you're there, I can unfortunately not help.

My account and my company (which incidentally has been about 5 years a computer synonymous trade operates successfully) to speak as a different Language.
Throughout all my customers from industry and commerce (as well as private persons) Probs with Vista and 64bit systems. So I can only say from my experience that Vista (and to the existing "SP1" - if you absolutely must mention SP1) only weaknesses.

And if you're the Meihnung a duo a multi-board with 2 separate 3.2 P4 s proposes na dann wünsch .... I'm going to have fun.

I repeat, in addition to Vista is the ME is the biggest flop ever MS has done (ok maybe NT but what solls)

Alla, I must be the hundredth level in PAC MAN next play go on my ancient system.

Wünsch what ...

PS read the CW times from the second week of Januar08 and then printed the report relating to Vista 64bit and in companies, perhaps you can with the above figures show so what I tried already auszudrücken.Und if you check the prices times against a duo NEN 3.2 P4 chip, perhaps because it falls to you on what synonymous.

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Antwort von naside-88:

Here, I find it funny!
As a computer expert tried all serious about a clearly make a Pentium 4 has a better performance than a current Core Quad.

Sure there are when it comes to Vista 64bit is the Programs and hardware are incompatible, but we have the theme DV Editing as a core point.

Apart from this, is someone who argued, a P4 is better than a current Quad and Vista is based s.ME for me, no really serious discussion partner.

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Antwort von naside-88:

"B. DeKid" wrote: @ Mäx
Ultimately I get Vista, but after several tests (and yes, I think that I know of) for a more "Win ME" variant.


Please be so good and backing your statements with verifiable facts. But I guess the times will you can not.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

Why are always discussions about faith wars? I think that the thread-questioner in his decision not forward.

Once again my personal experience: I've been using Vista64 for DV editing system ug (in parallel with XP installed on the same calculator) and have me in the DV editing in the practical use quite sober after 3 months experience for Vista64 and XP decided against!

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"B. DeKid" wrote: A MAC ... but as a general alternative to Windows-based systems to be recommended I get a wrong ...
No question, geb ich dir Recht! As an ultimate recommendation is synonymous here but surely no one meant.

"B. DeKid" wrote: MAC ... s are in professional hands and not in consumer offices ...
What specifically Office applications, you might also be right. Macs generally come more from the professional area, but is now expected to "normal" computer user the greater part of the buyer identified. My Experiences in the synonymous acquaintances have shown that a rather unexperienced users permanently s.Mac clearly comes easier than s.einem Windows system.

"B. DeKid" wrote: ... who is a well-constituted win network-based system at home has in any case keep up with you ...
I agree again! Again: the question "Mac or Windows" bears the potential to be wars of faith in themselves, but they should not. The thread starter will be good reasons for Microsoft have decided, and nobody wants him now seriously to reverse the polarity of Apple.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Flati" wrote: ... An experienced user has already installed SP1 for Vista ...
I happened to have this message gestolpert:
www.n-tv.de/919774.html?150220081524

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Flati" wrote: ... An experienced user has already installed SP1 for Vista ...
I happened to have this message gestolpert:
www.n-tv.de/919774.html?150220081524

Gruß Bernd E.


HAZARDS The user waits for Windows SPs only times from, what experiences do the users übereiligen ;-)

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"Anonymous" wrote: ..... all of a computer expert a clearly serious about making a Pentium 4 has a better performance than a current quad core ....
Apart from this, is someone who argued, a P4 is better than a current Quad and Vista is based s.ME for me, no really serious discussion partner.


I spoke not of Duo and Quad Quad although I have not yet used extensively in self-test was, I think you are synonymous as a duo not against 4 x 3.2 P4 / Xeon ankommen.Und the expert in our own Doc made in information technology, the Dr.Schnagels is with us .... and the only runs Linux anyway and so would not even comment.

And what I tell you the actual host? No time you login?

"Anonymous" wrote: ..... Please be so good and backing your statements with verifiable facts. But I guess the times will you can not.
But clearly I can ..... both BS flew with us / me right after the purchase down. (and both versions were even after publication of SP1 not stable or improved)

"immanuelkant" wrote: HAZARDS The user waits for Windows SPs only times from, what experiences do the users übereiligen ;-)

Yes he does ... and although until SP2 comes out or the BS in the closet disappears = see ME.

@ Bernd
Yes, the boys of MAC have on the market in Germany (Europe) is now synonymous quite caught up, the fragility of a MAC against viruses, for instance, is a lot better than a PC. In the U.S. MAC but were always greater than represented here. (What, however, in the last 3 years has changed somewhat synonymous.)
An alternate on MAC, I can not currently afford (in terms of existing licenses, not the money)

Conclusion: I'm saying the thread starter the XP version is recommended.
He is so in all likelihood more fun (friends who help him) have. As a test for MS Kanickel will not serve you if you would like to play Crysis and NEN would like to cut some videos. Since you want a stable system and his calm.

Alla what I wish and go times Penner.
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By the Way I use only 2 computers (PC and a lap) XP otherwise I drive server 2K3 (years after I'm driven 2k server), otherwise let my / our server garnicht correct address / nutzen.Der mail server is running with us with Linux to the spam flood under control. And the only Mac I have around here is an "ancient" G3 and serves only to view and purposes was of me (as an employee) was in the U.S. where you bought me from professional "viewpoint advised. (And yes I have on entry synonymous taxed Andreas ;-)

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Antwort von naside-88:

Quote: "Anonymous" wrote: ..... Please be so good and backing your statements with verifiable facts. But I guess the times will you can not.
But clearly I can ..... both BS flew with us / me right after the purchase down. (and both versions were even after publication of SP1 not stable or improved)
Super facts.
Thread Starter s.den Tip: Take Vista! For one I know of nobody with Vista is not happy, except the type here does not even know the facts are and what with his P4 is married to another, you will find in the whole thread no argument against it, but only a religious war here is kept.

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Antwort von Flati:

"B. DeKid" wrote: "Anonymous" wrote: ..... all of a computer expert a clearly serious about making a Pentium 4 has a better performance than a current quad core ....
Apart from this, is someone who argued, a P4 is better than a current Quad and Vista is based s.ME for me, no really serious discussion partner.


I spoke not of Duo and Quad Quad although I have not yet used extensively in self-test was, I think you are synonymous as a duo not against 4 x 3.2 P4 / Xeon ankommen.Und the expert in our own Doc made in information technology, the Dr.Schnagels is with us .... and the only runs Linux anyway and so would not even comment.

Yes, exactly and the earth is a disc.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"B. DeKid" wrote: And yes I have on entry synonymous taxed ;-) Andreas
Have you lived over there? At a certain time would probably be "moving" has been declared ... maybe you've paid him and to have it not ...?
That would be unfortunate of course ... anyway, I'm not a customs investigators, but still love that you've thought s.mich:-D
Andreas

PS: Vista and SP1? Not everything is better,

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

"Anonymous" wrote: Quote: "Anonymous" wrote: ..... Please be so good and backing your statements with verifiable facts. But I guess the times will you can not.
But clearly I can ..... both BS flew with us / me right after the purchase down. (and both versions were even after publication of SP1 not stable or improved)
Super facts.
Thread Starter s.den Tip: Take Vista! For one I know of nobody with Vista is not happy, except the type here does not even know the facts are and what with his P4 is married to another, you will find in the whole thread no argument against it, but only a religious war here is kept.


Arguments against Vista are certainly plenty of forums where we visited with the problems of the various versions of Windows issues. The rest were synonymous in this topic already mentioned some.

And if you ever want to know people who are not happy with Vista have become - Give me your e-mail address and I post it with the remark: "Vista is the best operating system in the world" in a forum. Then I bet you know a lot of disgruntled ex-or force users of Vista.

Of course, if only because you are interested in have your horizons ;-)

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Antwort von kiteschlampe:

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Antwort von r.p.television:

I currently run on the stationary Calculator XP 64 s.besten. But anyway I think that this is hard on the calculator-dependent.
Vista was when I purchase a new SonyVaio laptops zwangsverordnet and I only had trouble with it. First, the BS simply proves too much memory, so that at first in larger projects ever the memory becomes full (which is XP is not the case). Then hang on and the Explorer and Other ... or any forced break of unknown nature.

Very annoying is that Microsoft apparently all Manufacturer of laptops specifically designed to Preinstalling of Vista required. Unfortunately (and synonymous in my case) is a touchdown subsequent lack of XP drivers either do not or only with intensive research and work possible. This is me after half a day's work succeeded and now the thing is not a toy but more funzt and it can actually work.
Just the symbolism tippsenfreunliche without visible extensions extremely annoying me. Where to XP in a fast yet. M2t On. Mpeg could make (so that's, for example, the Media Player checks) should take this time to try Vista ....... You may of course change the folder options, but generally shows this "factory vote" where MS with Vista hinwill:
A Dumpfbacken interface for people with small icons to better cope with a meaningful endings. And then this silly "Are you sure?" Queries, although you can stop the program again but this Dumpfbacken-character.

Generally speaking, the fact that we only sell new equipment, which exclusively with Vista running around to compare as if a manufacturer sells a car for which there is only fuel in a year there. Many programs are running under Vista is not yet or bad. What should I do because then when I need a new laptop?
In addition, you are forced to update all the licenses. That can easily cost 2000 euros.

Who generally starts in front of and as equal to the Production of Adobe CS3 suite and takes a lot of RAM can probably take synonymous Vista. It should be noted that many useful programs such as Roxio DVDit of (who wants to burn BluRays functioning is dependent on, among other things) only with the best of luck to run Vista. An update is still not announced.

I just stick with XP 64bit. This emulates the 32bit programs without Mucke and manages virtually unlimited RAM as Vista 64th Only my DSL adapter no longer wanted. A new for 10 euros, it's done.

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Antwort von TMaekler:

"kiteschlampe" wrote: "Flati" wrote: @ smooth-appeal
I think just the so-called Vista opponent never really intense with Vista apart ... Act have


Grüss you,

quite honestly, why do I need with an operating system intensively addressed to user programs to use?

True, however, is that everything new is just crap.
gruss Chris


You have to but not to address it! It remains all but themselves. Only the discussion is whether XP or Vista is better now pointless with someone both times not optimized to use.

All this new crap (as you write) fits exactly into the scheme of F, but is ultimately synonymous just a stupid saying.
PS: Vista is not new!

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

It was clear that here at the title again go: Apple Appelianer recommend (and yes nothing else!), Penguins advise on Linux and the other usual suspects damn Vista Basic and soil.

It is synonymous again so chic about Vista herzuziehen. The relevant magazines warn or explain, at least for Vista superfluous and recommend to stay with XP and at the same Windows7 wait.

So people, somehow, I have all this years ago already read: As a 2001 (?) XP was released, I have all the magazines and other experts explained that there would be no reason of Win2000/NT to go away and that XP would Rohrkrepierer that nobody needs. When the XP SP2 for decency, because again everyone has warned: 'Do not jungle. "

Now history repeats itself in Vista (and SP1).

But quite soberly:

1.
As long as you have an operating system on his calculator, which meets all your requirements and is stable enough anyway, there is always - for me - absolutely no reason to change an operating system! If it still does, you are inevitably problems (and without any basis other than satisfaction of a game drive, perhaps)!

2.
But if you buy a new calculator, then the whole thing looks different:
s.Entweder there is no operating system, then I quite soberly consider: What do I want to do and what do I need this? I have equipment which I continue to use s.PC wants / needs and for which BS have or can I get drivers? The same applies to the compatibility of software I use them. Finally, it should be synonymous abchecken how high their risk is based on a new (unknown) system to establish ...
b) If the operating system but a calculator is, it should be with a reputable supplier can assume that the hardware and operating system are well matched. I then examine whether it is software or hardware, which with the new device and is incompatible with this result. Then I decide whether I accept the complete range or not.

Unlike XP (then) VISTA is just (today) do not have a reputation for unstable than its predecessor (then: Win2000/NT today: xpsp2) to be. So there is, in my opinion, much less than it was a basic principle and VISTA before ever warning!

My decision:
I wanted a new PC, with which I am qualified HDV DV Editing operate wanted. Performance and stability were for me at the top of the list of requirements.
Because I was with the old Calculator (Incidentally, under XP) had some Huddelei (instability, but what I'm up to date on the editing software pushed), I have a specialist provider of advice and the PC of this specialist synonymous build.
To my surprise, my VISTA recommended.
Since I once again to the whole yelling heard in the press, I had strong reservations about VISTA.
But he guaranteed me that everything will work very stable and so I agreed (mainly with the argument that the 8 GB of memory only to manage VISTA64 would) under the condition that, in parallel on the calculator the whole system synonymous under XP32 up would be (for safety).

What should I say: I'm with my Vista Calculator completely satisfied. The DV editing runs under Vista 64 seems to me to experience more efficient than under XP32. The calculator is the most stable under Vista64 PC I've ever had (well, the calculator knows synonymous s.None agency, a lack of resources: quad-core CPU, 8GB of RAM and 2TB HD, dav. 1TB in RAID-0-operation).

The XP partition I have now made my office environment (and is also very stable). Thus, the whole thing will still be meaningful.

Conclusion: No fear of Vista!
There is hardly a reason on a stable of running XP PC to migrate to Vista - but Vista warn that it is not appropriate. And it may well be good reasons that are expressly designed for Vista (and XP v) to decide.
Buys you a good sized, modern calculator with compatible components, then you have sy

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"immanuelkant" wrote: ... What I want to do and what do I need this? ... The same applies to the compatibility of software I use them ...
This point seems to me the key to be! Who is a special cutting machine is, so does the useful basis of NLE. Once I know what I want to cut, I can determine what the system requirements future software required.
That would be synonymous, incidentally the reason why I am the original asker of Vista would advise against: He wants to, inter alia, with Avid Xpress intersect, this program does not officially support Vista - and whether the support is determined by the setting is still coming, it seems questionable. For other software like Vista of course, an alternative.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von leo73:

"Anonymous" wrote: "kiteschlampe" wrote: "Flati" wrote: @ smooth-appeal
I think just the so-called Vista opponent never really intense with Vista apart ... Act have


Grüss you,

quite honestly, why do I need with an operating system intensively addressed to user programs to use?

True, however, is that everything new is just crap.
gruss Chris


You have to but not to address it! It remains all but themselves. Only the discussion is whether XP or Vista is better now pointless with someone both times not optimized to use.

All this new crap (as you write) fits exactly into the scheme of F, but is ultimately synonymous just a stupid saying.
PS: Vista is not new!


HOWEVER, I must - n've bought a new laptop, which runs only with Vista. Wanted to install XP - funzt not. My old editing software, with the best years I could work - for a ton.

What are the stupid slogan: Les times my statement in context, maybe you understand it then ...

"Susann" wrote: Hello
one question:

What do we need this to live and in real time over the Internet?
so for example someone from berlin me can see in real time?

schonmal thank in advance

LG Susann


A rogue who thinks this evil ...

Gruss Chris

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Antwort von darklord77:

So Vista is top. I can understand the whole people, however, are not synonymous understand. - Can I imagine the only way these people are the faulty hardware or software.

Also in use in Vista Business 64-bit version. Why 64?
Because I'm much more RAM can address. (Under Vista Business, I believe there are 128 GB, I think Home is only 4 or so)

For 32Bit (whether XP or Vista 32Bit/x86) is just under 3 GB conclusion!
3 GB And these are not synonymous completely exploited. (2.7 max)
Under XP is more than 2 GB überhapt no sense.
(Yes I know XP is synonymous 4 GB s.wenn the fitting - but mean nothing. 32 bit can not address more than 3GB - point)

The only drawback is the number of software vendors, although it has been in years, not 32-bit processors any more, it does not get baked native 64-bit applications to write. In the video, as well as synonymous in the audio field.
I use the Adobe products (CS3) and the all run 100% perfect on Vista 64th

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"darklord77" wrote:
Also in use in Vista Business 64-bit version. Why 64?
Because I'm much more RAM can address. (Under Vista Business, I believe there are 128 GB, I think Home is only 4 or so)


An argument like placed for 64-bit software - I only ask me if the people synonymous times their actual memory utilization KVD or only for 'more must bring more synonymous yes' to proceed. :)

(yes, there is the software of 4-8 GB Ram benefited mostly the very marginal, but you will on an overwhelming majority of notebook or desktop PC can not find).

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Daigoro" wrote: ...

(yes, there is the software of 4-8 GB Ram benefited mostly the very marginal, but you will on an overwhelming majority of notebook or desktop PC can not find).


Yes of course it makes no sense to be just as comfortable to the memory banks vollzustopfen if you do not need it, but:
We are here in a video editing forum!

DV editing has always been a memory-hungry - and in the age of 4-core processors, multithreading, HD formats, the memory expansion on the 3GB boundary already sense!

As I said: aberbeite itself synonymous with Vista Home 64 and am extremely satisfied!

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"immanuelkant" wrote:
DV editing has always been a memory-hungry - and in the age of 4-core processors, multithreading, HD formats, the memory expansion on the 3GB boundary already sense!


We can not say so sweeping.

At most it makes sense to view exactly what they are working and in each case to decide.

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Antwort von darklord77:

The Adobe CS3 series of benefits and of course, makes the games felt.

Ah yes, the memory expansion is synonymous as far as I know that the board see above the "memory hole" as over 2 GB of memory can arise can circumnavigate. I think in any case something in the direction have read the earlier part of the Board is not able to manage optimally.



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Antwort von Daigoro:

"darklord77" wrote: and of course, makes the games felt.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeboeffekt

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

My God! Always this obsessive right want to keep!

If it's any, as he says!

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Antwort von darklord77:

So of Placeboo can not talk. I have noticed for example in Crysis. Hatt only 2 GB in it and then changed to 4 in between. The loading times were significantly shorter for example.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"darklord77" wrote: So of Placeboo can not talk. I have noticed for example in Crysis. Hatt only 2 GB in it and then changed to 4 in between. The loading times were significantly shorter for example.

So my Solitaire invites with 2GB RAM as fast as with 512MB and Vista Ultimate 64bit half as fast as on Win 3.11.

If you 'Crysis' mean, then say' Crysis' (one of the games that are synonymous of 4 cores Benefit).
If you're in the play 'and say' Crysis' do is simply stop moving and too vague.

And if you or Avid xyz PP CS3 or do, then say that and not "when editing DV.

Something to consider in detail is important for a zielfuerende discussion.

Where we at CS grad 3 (legal license) are: application software, the hardware is really really exploits and scaled usually costs more than the hardware.
Why in such decisions usually synonymous with the deployed software starts and the OS and the hardware accordingly (eg for software manufacturer certification) selects.

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Antwort von darklord77:

Perhaps lying s.Deinem Board:



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Antwort von freddiecarlton:

If in doubt, XP for DV editing. Vista is still quite immature and still (in June 2008!) On the level of a beta version.

Would it not irritate you, once synonymous Linux for Editing DV out? After the multimedia area long a "stepchild" of the Linux distributions, has since done a lot. Ubuntu"Movies" UbuntuUbuntu 8:04 Ubuntu
Schönes Wochenende!

freddiecarlton


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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"freddiecarlton" wrote: ... Vista is still quite immature and still (in June 2008!) On the level of a beta version ....

Do not understand! I currently run the HDV editing under Vista64 significantly faster than under XP32. The system is 100% stable (which I had never before!).
I recommend clearly Vista! Requires that the editing program synonymous with Vista (64) can ...

Synonymous desires a nice weekend
Uwe

PS. synonymous see my detailed post here http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=282117 # 282117

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Antwort von darklord77:

@ freddiecarlton

sorry because I have very loud "LOLEN"!

You say that Vista Zeitüunkt tend to present a beta version and would recommend instead LINUX !?!??

Where do you think the findings of the Vista beta yet so much is?

How long from here you are already intensively with the computer technology?
Not so very long it seems to me.

Have you ever faced with a Linux box sat times let alone such a system set up?
I think Linux has in any case be justified. But in the creative field has nothing lost. In the creative field (audio, video, DTP) is on the software side in the Linux area no real counterparts to the products under the Windows or Mac are available. Moreover, the general Windows / Mac with clicker definitely some things under Linux overwhelmed.

Your statement regarding Vista is sadly unqualified and lacks any basis.

Nix for ungut :-)

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