Infoseite // Voltage overload Lichtset



Frage von indy:


Hi,

I will in the future, smaller image films (probably mainly in offices and hotels) and had to film in my search for the right Lichtset (first three classic lighting), the 3x800 Arri kit envisaged.

A little concern to me here but the point voltage / overload and the question whether this set as a standard power supply (as they are so in offices etc will take place) could possibly cause problems. One does not exactly be popular if the people in their office backups raushaut.

A similar discussion gabs sometimes in small form here in the forum but not really clear with his outcome and so I would look at the experience of you in this regard look. Is it really over for 800, I should perhaps rather down to 650 (or even a 300 kit)? Or maybe the 800 and easily get set for those shoots then burner with smaller numbers use watts (so you would then perhaps flexible)

I would be very happy about your opinion
gruss
Matthias

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Antwort von PowerMac:

2.4 KW really grabs each connection. If you run into an old farmhouse with a historical monument and actually turn a backup rausfliegt, then you just Holst from another floor by extending electricity for the second 800. Otherwise, modern building with almost everything. In office, I have to image films already synonymous my 8 KW fetched, no problem.

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Antwort von domain:

If you are providing coverage of the socket (s) know you can just by the formula: watts = volts * amps, hold the power can be calculated. So for example: 230V * 20 amps = 4600 watts.
With 20 amps are modern installations, incidentally, usually at least covered.

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Antwort von david2:

Quote: With 20 amps are modern installations, incidentally, usually at least covered.
Is wrong.
From a normal Schuko outlet must never be more than 16A are coming! So: ~ 3680 W

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

... and think that s.dem circuit may depend more consumers (For example, the hallway sockets times a photocopier).

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Antwort von indy:

the course is the point if there's quite a lot of stuff with dranhängt. Often, such shoots so synonymous fairly quickly because you can not necessarily always durchrechnen everything (except that the people in the offices synonymous then probably a bit nervous when the `ll 'How can there was overloading. And what happened then with my current Minesweeper game "). However consume but hardly synonymous copier etc. what, it can even with its large collection on my electric 2.4 kW actually not really cut out a lot of watts, right?

gruss
matthias

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Quote: However consume but hardly synonymous copier etc. what, it can even with its large collection on my electric 2.4 kW actually not really cut out a lot of watts, or

OK, let the copier and take instead the coffee machine or the vacuum cleaner, the cleaning lady anschaltet because they do not see that to a camera dei corner team.

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Antwort von Videofactory:

So a copier needs quite a lot of power and in his vacuum cleaner quickly biste at 2000 watts. Also, the PCs need fast 100 watts. Then use the.

In large offices haste synonymous but more and more circuits on a floor, or in an office just two or three.

The problem is only that the employees are often not even know what a circuit is synonymous and the caretakers do not always know about it.

So, 2.4 kW could have just used in a circuit to get. If I turn dramatic films, eh, but I do always all other devices, because often cause noise or ground loops.

Gruß, Alex.

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Antwort von WideScreen:

Our copier draws 1000 watts. eg for heating the toner fixing. But the only s.Rande.

So first you can not overload the voltage. But only the stream. However, synonymous only s.Rande.

According to the rules must sockets with max. 16 ampere load. 3x800 watts are 2400 watts. The 230 volts through 9 are therefore about amps So this makes with the left. Especially since the headlight synonymous not s.gleichen point and then are usually always different sockets and thus (usually) are synonymous s.unterschiedliche phases.

Less you should in my opinion does not take, I think you will rather quickly to a 2nd Suitcase and come to hire a couple of area lights. Because 3x 800 headlight is nothing in his office ....

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Antwort von schlaflos011:

Hello,

I am Jack mal ein simply because I face the same problem.
Is it useful to combine 1x800 1x300 1x area?

Or maybe the classic light suitcase?

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Antwort von wontuwontu:

"schlaflos011" wrote: Hello,

I am Jack mal ein simply because I face the same problem.
Is it useful to combine 1x800 1x300 1x area?

Or maybe the classic light suitcase?


The plots are 800, of, therefore I do not know exactly what you do with land. For softer light (interviews) are light or a Chimera Banks are much better than a direct face / stage. As Aufrüstoption for Arrilites there is a Chimera with speed ring for little money. Fill comes as quite favorable solutions in the light of banking sector, synonymous nice wenns goes to color (32 and 55er are equally expensive). As a top / kicker would ne ne 150er or 300 Junior an option.

The 800 sets are quite cheap when you consider that you have a very good case, Tripods, etc mitbekommt. As a basic setup is a good start.

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Antwort von wontuwontu:

"PowerMac" wrote: 2.4 KW really grabs each connection.

Besides numerous Altbauwohnungen. They are fused with 10A and fly at 3x800W, apart from high inrush guaranteed out. I would be cautious and would prefer the lights to distribute at least 2 circuits.

For a 8kW you need then halt ne CEE cable with min. 32A, which has not any budget. Office buildings have, however, usually synonymous 63A-feeders.

What electricity is concerned, always in advance with the caretaker, or house electricians speak. And never the Cam or so s.denselben circuit as the light hang.

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Antwort von WideScreen:

In general, 10A synonymous. Because the backups are not so constructed that they accurately 10.00000 A trigger. Apart from breaking the tension a little bit together, and synonymous if the voltage drop is small, they're no longer 2.4 kW. :-p

But what is now if everyone in the street will be interviewed? And all the same security s.der hang? Will it not for the public utilities problems? Or if not interviewed all the city will not break because the plant together?

Man, man, if you already intractable problems in embarking corners of a key start, then I would me as a customer soon NEN other service providers are looking for ...

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Antwort von Videofactory:

"WideScreen" wrote: In general, 10A synonymous ....
But what is now if everyone in the street will be interviewed? And all the same security s.der hang? Will it not for the public utilities problems? Or if not interviewed all the city will not break because the plant together? ...

Do you seriously now?
What fürn road because that will be where all households depend s.einer 16A fuse?
That with the city, at once the interview is synonymous is not a big problem, the E-Werk finally produces more electricity than is needed. The excess electricity is then either stored in fat or with motors consume.

If the stadium floodlights anmacht, breaking the power so do not synonymous and there is far more power.

10A to the backups: on the one I come from the invoice 2400 Watt / 230 Volt Ampere at 10.43, on the other hand, need the lights when you turn a lot of power (unless you slow it Dims high). Thus, a 10A fuse kicked out.
Have there even been his experience with Eurolite dimmer made of synonymous and 10A fuses had been rausflog than man 2 Par 64er (ie 2kW) has flashed.

Gruß, Alex.

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Antwort von newsart:

I recommend, in fact, a combination unterschidlicher lights, instead of the classic 3x800 ARRI suitcase. Non-load voltage of reasons, but because the combination of surface and Fresnel luminaires simply more variance at the light setting possible. We work with our placement of such light suitcase:

http://forum.slashcam.de/verkaufe-lichtkoffer-arri-2x650w-1x800w-komplettset-fur-eb-eng-vt65711.html?highlight=newsart

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