Infoseite // Vs. DVCPRO25. Betacam SP



Frage von Tarek:


Hi folks,

've a question:
I work out and again with a SonyBVW 400 Betacam SP Camera.
The tapes will then be on a beta MAZ digitized (YUV signal Datavideo DAC2 A / D converter, then via firewire to the PC).

Now I have the opportunity to take a 2 / 3 inch camera, which works with DVCPRO25 to get. Here, one could then have a direct yes DVCPRO Player on the PC to play.

If the final image of the two systems, similar to the one or the other in any way superior?

Please, spare me, but with too many technical details, such as codecs, etc. Since I am not ... I just want something about the recording quality experience.

Thank you!

Tarek

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Can anyone say, since we do not know what optics you use, what du film, like film ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

You represent a comparison between an analog (SP) and a digital system s.wo is already dividing the spirits whether Digi-Beta and DVCPro identical in quality.
Without the struggles grave here continue to want, but even the broadcaster to use both systems. (just no more SP!)
Even the ARD is because of Funkhaus Funkhaus to "split" .... You ask and according to SP DVCPro?
And then it is no preference whether the signal back to a DB is withdrawn or not ... the signal is not synonymous better (in most cases not visible worse).
I could you now the technical intricacies to rattle down here, do not just because it is your explicit request.
Good optics, of PM as I mentioned here just as there ahead anyway.

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Antwort von dukebtd:

Well, DVCPRO50 comes rather s.Digital Betacam ran, but never DVCpro25, however, is the normal DV DVCpro25 superior because it is through the 4:1:1 Farbsampling Stair s.harten no color there, but that is synonymous everything.

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Antwort von dukebtd:

I agree with you completely agree, so I just synonymous DVCPro written. Although synonymous with many still current 25 are underway. It is in the question but to SP and actually this direct comparison, because with the transfer of DB it is so far not a DB but remains similar (quite apart from that of DB only synonymous with Baseband rauskommt) .. .

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Antwort von WoWu:

jau, .. Login

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Blöd only that all common digital analysis paths have 4:2:0 sampling. Since then comes out at 4:1:0 ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

.... in the usual amateur!

In the television sector, they still 4:2:2 ... since then remains the 4:1:1
And even good amateur programs in DVCPro far 4:2:0 ... this is only provided for HDV.

But there would not even fit the codec .... So it is somewhat difficult to make out 4:1:0.
And, on the digital Sendeweg, you're right, because 4:2:0 is sent ....

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Antwort von TheBubble:

"Anonymous" wrote: as it is affected by the 4:1:1 Farbsampling no stairs there s.harten color
There are synonymous here, something like "steps" if synonymous another form.

"WoWu" wrote:
And, on the digital Sendeweg, you're right, because 4:2:0 is sent ....

That's right.

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Antwort von Tarek:

Thank you for the many contributions ...

... synonymous my question if you do not really answer that question.
Facts and figures for me are rather secondary, because I am really on my subjective impression.

For me, one simple and alone, that I am a clean, sharp picture and high contrast have.
With Betacam SP Camera is the case.
If I rotated a movie and have me then watch Television, is the same for me as if I see a television program.
In contrast, most of my shots, for example, on MiniDV cameras (no preference whether 1 or 3CCD) were rotated, subjective as amateur films (no large contour sharpness, weak colors, etc.). I think it is not so much whether s.Aufnahmemedium or 4: X: Y, but s.zahlreichen other factors such as size of the CCD 's, Lens, etc.

Forgive me if I have all your measurement data and facts to cast doubt on the results, but only what and what counts is how a recording on the audience does, and these are usually just such laymen as I am a stay and synonymous will ...

What the DVCPRO Camera is concerned, I can mail them to me once for a weekend rental. I will probably do so synonymous, but I probably will stay at the Sony, because I know what I did '.

Tarek

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Tarek" wrote: What the DVCPRO Camera is concerned, I can mail them to me once for a weekend rental. I will probably do so synonymous, but I probably will stay at the Sony, because I know what I did '.
Just so do I always synonymous: Even look with the eyes, everything else does not bring much. The BVW-400 is a full broadcast camera, a little more than ten years, the upper first class (along with the Ikegami HL-V55) has shown. In DVCPro, it is very important to the camera actually is. If you do not want to make complex color is with the thinner Farbsubsampling negligible. So just always nice to the White Balance eighth and expose correctly. The vast majority of current recordings from the ARD Berlin Studio incidentally are synonymous "only" 25th in DVCPro One advantage you have it: No more dropouts and an overall "cleaner" picture. But look at yourself

If it happens to Ikegami HL-V73 HL-V77, or acting, I would even say that you like the picture even better than might of Sony.

Matthias

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Tarek" wrote: I am really on my subjective impression.
Without any Häme: Why you ask here then?
And as Mr Power has already written: The system parameters of the recording formats are a thing - what kind of Optics and what kind of chip in the actual camcorder sit another. Should read: The recording of a top BetaSP camcorder CAN look better than an average-DVC-Pro model.

Frohes Watch!

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