Frage von TonyTunTun:
Hi folks,
I hope you can help me.
Had a lot of Hi8 cams up to a few mini DV.
But for me the time to s.beste cam in my possession is my 4th PC SonyDCR
She is upright, very small, fits in my jeans pocket in the front inside, so I can anywhere. (VERY IMPORTANT!)
It has an intelligent NightShot 0 lux (better than my Panasonic, the all gray / green power). She has a beautiful touch screen. It is truly my favorite camera.
But now we get into the HD era.
Only as far as I am with my DCR PC 4 is annoying
1.The low resolution
2.The Interlace
no preference which filter if I use VirtualDub, AviSynth no preference what I've always easy staircase effect, I get the videos never really progressive, either I do sections at 25p or 50p then do everything hochskaliert but somehow stupid.
so now I am in search of an HD camcorder.
Should also be vertical, synonymous feature a 0 Lux offer wenns ne possibility is to have 1080p progressive to make this, I finally am going scheiss interlace. because 1080I are effectively only 540 lines.
You should have good quality, medium to me is no preference whether miniDV, memory card or whatever. Merits of the rest fits all.
Also, I am VERY VERY skeptical CMOS! Even my Nokia N93 (The camcorder cell phone at all) has CMOS and I am NOT impressed. Everything I've seen of CMOS hab gefällt mir halt to non-CCD.
So what CAM vertical compact and small in every pocket for HD recordings?
Antwort von AndyZZ:
So at the present but still quite clear market HDV cameras but it should be a simple, sometimes the producer sides of the typical suspect Sony, Canon, JVC and Panasonic to visit and download the data sheets and / or times should be. The work can be and nobody here will tell you off.
With 1080p but you will not find too many results.
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
Yes, I have already done so. The only thing I remember there was a Canon HV10. Wanted me yes almost a Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD1 fetch
but the resolution jump is me then too low. 1080 lines, I would already have, but if the 1080 return true only 540 lines, it is synonymous blöd. Because so creates the Xacti VPC-HD1 already 720p.
I'm really s.rätseln. In any case, would the design of the VPC-HD1 or the Canon HV-10 in question. Whether or not the HV10 now 0 Lux has been, I could not bring in experience and the rumor mill mentioned but the HV10 have a 1080p? Why are there no intelligent Cam of Sony? Simply DCR PC 4 with HD Resolutionund I would be happy ;-)
And who can give me my skepticism because CMOS confirm or deny?
Antwort von PowerMac:
The 1080/50i only has 540 lines, is not true.
A question of how you look at it. Each 1 / 25 second, is probably the 1080. Each 1 / 50 second, it is 540 lines. When I consider a movie, with the 25p or 24p is running, then it is probably the 1080.
Antwort von edi:
So probably the HV10 offers a significant advantage, compared to your earlier devices. And on HDV Resolutionwirst probably in the consumer sector not find anything ...
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
synonymous yes I think the HV10 is the best probably will be priced performance seems synonymous to vote and she is upright. (unfortunately did not have as many hd camcorder in upright found)
unfortunately I could find nothing about whether they can be 0 lux think probably not: (and rumors say with the shutter speed to 1 / 25 would include 1080p. many say the cmos synonymous actually be better (at least in high end area?) , although all the pictures of cmos bisjetzt I've seen I do not like it for a test video of the HV10 but I liked it. So far I tend to strongly HV10, unless someone has what better stock.
again subject to the CMOS.
Here pictures with a MICRON CMOS recorded, this is one of the best belong, but the quality I like NOT!
That makes my Konica KD400 from 2001 mi CCD better pictures
Here is an alleged 5 Mega Pixel CMOS IMAGE
http://images.micron.com/gallery/ssp_director/albums/album-19/hr/StanleyFence0002.jpg
For me MUCH NOISE
here another one
http://images.micron.com/gallery/ssp_director/albums/album-19/hr/tentrocks0001.jpg
schaut euch mal the top of the mountain s.auf the left side of the colorful s.rand tails, that's terrible!!
When I look at as the quality of my CCD with Konica KD400 look simply gorgeous. So, why was my CMOS is still not convincing and I've always shit before?
Antwort von edi:
HV10, there are now for 799 EUR incl VAT anywhere on the Internet
Antwort von edi:
Here's just a few advantages of CMOS sensors:
- Lower noise
- Higher Dynamics
- Less energy
Even more than we should note here is not the "cheap" CMOS sensors in eg mobile phones and webcams, but remember the example: Canon's DSLR CMOS sensors only use.
Antwort von Jan:
The first CMOS models especially the SonyDCR PC 1000 were very weak in Lowlight. I would be the HV 10 still under the class rank, have a model made synonymous with the basic need to take back:
Canon HV 10 The new HV 20 should already be clear next, even for a few days then I will go into the dark warehouse and against Panasonic HDC SD 1 / SonyHC 7 applies to ...
Canon has made the GM 20 through microlens for each diode, the light output increased again, CMOS sensors - especially when they are young - are just very rauschanfällig, saying only s.HV 20 is a good Bildeidruck expected.
Unfortunately for you the HV 20, no portrait mode.
Yes, the Canon HV 10 penultimate / last week, 150 ¬ less a beginning ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
So people,
is now just about the Canon HV10 to buy. now costs 750 euros new.
but at the same price I could not synonymous
sony hdr ux3e
or for less money ne sony hdr ux1e get.
Now I've seen the Sony's touch screen nen schönen have (yes I like too much) and all this beautiful night shot (which probably does not have HV10 or ?????)
and they are credible even Dolby digital 5.1 on? (the HV10 only stereo or how?) but the two are not Sony's edge: (
where is the difference between the ux1e and the ux3e?
what is better for the money? the Canon HV10 or the sony hdr ux3e both for 750?
I can not decide. is important to me holding the cam anywhere and can not be super skilled but they have to NEN night mode, I would of course do not synonymous. and the Sony have even AVCHD? please give me tips
Antwort von Nio:
Here is an alleged 5 Mega Pixel CMOS IMAGE
http://images.micron.com/gallery/ssp_director/albums/album-19/hr/StanleyFence0002.jpg
For me MUCH NOISE
here another one
http://images.micron.com/gallery/ssp_director/albums/album-19/hr/tentrocks0001.jpg
schaut euch mal the top of the mountain s.auf the left side of the colorful s.rand tails, that's terrible!! Are almost 5.04 MP
The whole looks to me but then, as if the images were Hochgepickselt. If you want s.Kanten goes, one sees these white border. If nothing, the high resolution, consumes only place on the memory card.
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
Please I need a few more tips.
The HV10 is really only stereo on and ux3 in true dolby 5.1?
The HV10 is mpeg2 so on the whole and on mini-dv to say about playing on pc even new compression to mpeg4?
which is directly in ux3 to mpeg4. who has a test sample?
ux3 has the synonymous of me of the usual sony NIGHTSHOT (with green color) ie 0 lux the canon probably does not?
mine is a NIGHTSHOT generally very important would really miss him but the type and quality of the proposition tend to me more HV10, otherwise sounds ux3 of the price and description echt super
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
The 5.1 sound is recording in HDV directly not possible. Canon has a 4 channel sound at the XL H 1, but that is a peculiarity. JVC could theoretically purely synonymous with HDV a 4 channel sound produce, yet they could not right to decide how many benefits this brings (compatible editing program).
AVCHD can of house from 5.1, but not a true 5.1 Dolby Digital, but it sounds quite appealing.
Yes HDV is MPEG 2 compression, AVCHD MPEG 4 or MPEG 2 (576i PAL).
UX 3 would not I buy a format where nothing draufpasst, almost no device can play (DVD Player & PC) and then almost as expensive as HDD & SD camcorder.
Canon has no NightShot, endweder long exposure (usually 1 / 25) seconds on TV or just change the exposure time, which is then again the famous bucking.
When you Sonyhat NightShot normal (1 / 50 sec) with infrared LED lamp, long exposures (often 1 / 25 sec) or Color Slow Shutter (about 1/6-1/15 sec - bucking motion)
VG
Jan
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
So,
Now I have the HV10 and would like to thank everyone for their advice thanks.
This is really exactly what I've wanted. My prejudices against CMOS lucky to have NOT confirmed. The quality is really the hammer. Even the photos of the camcorder shoots in 2048x1536 are very impressive. Do me the entire weekend with the Camera and employs synonymous with the 1 / 25 mode played around. The Camera is synonymous not bigger than my old PC 4 and thus fits anywhere where I would like to take with them. Can a credible even my next use the underwater housing. Ok, since I of the image'm very excited, I would now often synonymous with their photos shoot. We found compatriots Tele Converter 2.0x fold, there is perhaps more synonymous? I my there now Sony DV Cameras 40optisch from the factory, as yet NEN telephoto converter on it and it has 80x optical fach! Any possibility that I shall at the HV10 can achieve something? My buddy is trying the word synonymous prospect thrown into the room. Who can advise me? Would like to ask the Kirchtum can read the time.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
2.0x Tele Converter ... 40optisch fold from the factory ... Tele Converter and man it has 80x optical fach! Well, the zoom remains have still 40, so as the smallest wide-angle focal length by the converter just doubled as the longest telephoto focal length. But the clock you see in any case bigger! ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von TonyTunTun:
Thanks Bernd,
you're technically correct words. What I ultimately counts is how you already said that I see the clock is greater.
what do you think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Cullmann- video tele-converter-St-5x-fold 37mm-adapter_W0QQitemZ140117894627QQihZ004QQcategoryZ31174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or who can recommend what better for HV10?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
what do you think of this one? Five times larger so that your clock will be displayed, but whether the sharpness still enough to be able to read it? ;-) Good, so bad it's not, but especially for HDV Resolutiondürfte Converter with such a clear image in the knee go. To what extent exactly, it is probably only by trying to determine.
Gruß Bernd E.
