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Frage von Majuz:


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Antwort von Phyro-Mane:

Well, Mark is rich slowly ...

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Antwort von clint:

Hi,
try as the first time the Forum Search!!

Very very very very important is a good light! If the recordings are bad, can work within the postpro synonymous not save much.

A good article series about this:
http://www.hackermovies.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22470

much success
clint

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Antwort von tfp:

http://forum.slashcam.de/search.php?mode=results into the top, the word "film look" type.

What do you mean Mark is Rich? Only rich s.Kaffee ...
(Crap now I do have to pay synonymous.)

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Antwort von Phyro-Mane:

what was not there with 100 ¬ per question for cinema-like?

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Antwort von Markus:

"Phyro-Mane" wrote: what was not there with 100 ¬ per question for cinema-like?
So it is! The cashier of

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Antwort von steveb:

one-way coffee .... with nothing returned. Had sufficient time to it .... wegzuschlabbern

And we shall tell in 30 years of "Mark the (coffee) drinkers," the clonend powdered ....

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Antwort von Screws:

hmmm delicious coffee;)

Since I'm new here, and have not yet answered the question here ...

Movies look and DV ... times have blown out with golf nem a Ferrari?

Occur but rarely is ... ...

So here a few times, "Tuning Tips for your Golf DV ...

1. LIGHT! A lot of them (nich einfach drauf ... clap ... illuminate the more the better)

If you there is no data I would have you, "Painting with light" of John Alton and "Light and shadow shape in the film" Of Achim Dunker recommend ...

I have the experience gamchtes the many displays of DV cameras, the picture display too bright ... that mean you think everything looks great and will stand with too dark material in the mail ... here is recommended by an external Montior (not easy to take a small TV)

2. Obektive ... Much of what one or another means by filmlook runs over Lenses and their Effect on the recorded picture. A mini35 adapter gives you the ability to unscrew the clever Lenses enhance your picture is guaranteed (but need a "focus puller"

3. Make color correction - and I keep my nich any hot plug of whom always synonymous ... playing just a little bit with the levels and curves lääst so much already, and possibly even the hideous "küchegedreht I'm at mummy in" look (I call jetz mal so is wasting no bös'gemeint) something ...

Otherwise, experiment and practice, practice and practice again, etc.;)

Bis denne!

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Antwort von Axel:

Despite deja vu experience when it comes to film look: Screw is right, and that synonymous:
"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: Synonymous, I take the view that one should see to it that everything is right BEFORE the Lens. With a little practice you can eventually do without even largely on color correction in post. I am absolutely not teach someone to straighten bad material by fumbling. That is the wrong path. Perhaps that is synonymous with the lack of saturation of the fact that he holds the camera in the back, or possibly an incorrect white balance is set. Learn of Pre to Post! Cinematography is of the photograph. And those who master the basic rules of photography, it's easier to 'get good and perhaps synonymous effective pictures on video. Synonymous one who remembers when a camcorder is bollocks.
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Antwort von Screws:

Hi!

I did not express the shit, it is no preference as your raw material looks like ... We'll fix it in the post is unfortunately one of the biggest mistakes at all ...

Post production is powerful, but can not make up crap necessarily gold.

AAAAAABER what I wanted to say was that just when you start making films, etc. has never before taken the lighting and colors of the original material are often suboptimal.

Because we want to haun his short film indeed not the same in the barrel, and yes we still somehow want to have a halfway respectable result can be made with the Farbkorektur quite a bit. Of course not everything that one is yes beginners (and Farbkorektur is a science;)) for themselves.

Therefore, even synonymous Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice experimenting;)

cheers

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Antwort von soahC:

or for people who can not choose when and where they filmed and synonymous not just the best have cams, but still wish to produce something good! I may post!

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Antwort von Markus:

I extend the above list, at times bitchy factor "has no camera, but would draw yet professional-looking shots.

Somewhere, everything has its limit and for one or the other level, I just need synonymous with one or other conditions.

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Antwort von soahC:

is already clear that it synonymous with film on it must respect all matches (if it is just possible)! But the sounds here almost as s.als should be ashamed of themselves for this crime, or if s as if it corrects the color or sowas.vor mans sees everything anyway s.ergebniss. as has already said that post can make gold out of shit no ...

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Antwort von Screws:

I think suuuper Post!

Prerequisite to make a good film but is primarily time a good story ...

I'm good for one does not take place immediately when you start making movies is a 3 Chipper concerned ... whether rented or purchased ... those things right now cost times schotter ...

And why should I not the technology that exist to make use? Any professional production is corrected color, that's not objectionable, except ordinary and it is really not ... this is exactly the contrary, such a creative and important aspect in the production chain, such as MRP ne PDER Previs or what ever ... and synonymous as long as my film after more flattering to the eye than before ... or even more important as long as my support behind her color mood would be better than before you my story but a fool not to use that ... okay, the dogma would be the exception ... but not everyone wants that synonymous ...

Bis denne!

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Antwort von fragile:

So ...

1. Illuminate
2. Using lenses-Lenses (35mm look, etc.)
3. Possibly. in 25P - mode start (Movies-Bewegunsunschärfe)
4. possibly using a "Cinema" preset in the Cam, then draws them with S-gamma curve, etc. on ....
5. Color correction in Premiere, Combustion, etc., or better (gamma curve that is synonymous plugins like CineLook, the exposure process of the film should be able to mirror ...)

Today also provides an HDV Cam recording, did you stop much higher resolution, if synonymous something more artifacts or "noise" ...

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Antwort von Screws:

Hi ...

So HDV is so ne sache ... to her I'm still not convinced ... had a few weeks ago with a rotation of the FX1 is true has bravely in a supermarket (with no extra lighting, or partially beaten with reflectors) were received only problem green screen, and here not even the compression is the Hauptpoblem.

The material is just somehow too muddy / Disarm. Unfortunately we can not go all the way to accomplish what exactly it is that this green-screen shooting war of compromises and problems just peppered.

I'm down again the next ne HDV production into the house, but this time with the XL H1, and I'm curious ...

In spite of everything (Mini35 adapter, Postgefuddel, 25p and haste nich gesehen) remains for me always even video Video and Movie Film.

Certainly (and that's) stated goal, one can show video synonymous with beautiful pictures, but the film is not exactly Comparison to really advisable ...

May go We'll see how the next development, and as long as they will just simply consider what one wants to pay and I think.
There are more and more lately DV / HDV productions seen on the big screen, and synonymous if none of these productions can really pretend to be rotated on film, so (you can convince me, at least the pictures) ... but not in the sense of "wow man ja gar nich recognize that this was not rotated on film" but in the sense of "The look of supporting the story or the images are beautiful."

So I think that it is not so very important to me whether I now have a mini35 adapter leier plus lenses in the ribs, but more importantly it is just beautiful settings to turn. Unique tailoring and one or the other skillful Mis en scene, a film can give much more than the best equipment ever could - if we both can / has the better.

Movies look does not come in the first place of the purely visual Picture synonymous but precisely because of what I see and what I see.

cheers

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Antwort von Axel:

And if I may say something to the Editor:
A Picture can store information - no question. It can carry synonymous feelings, until we get sick.
But only the Assembly makes pictures comprehensible arguments, ideas and experiences.

Instead you into service before the end ausgepowert television set or browse through slashcam-forum, as it would be because times with a small incision session? But take with a TV card and start earning some garbage on (especially advertising), turns the sound s.and thinking about what cause the images in you for responses. Then make a collage like this that shows what you think of the world in which we live (but do not currently trautet to say).

This can, of course, by compositing and soundtrack give any number.

This exercise
- Fun
- Relaxed
- The perspective of respect for professional TV pictures
- Sharpens the cinematic instincts

Westentaschenphilosophische Supplement: All images were schonmal, all stories are told. What remains to be done? Aldous and Jimmy would say, "Opening the doors of perception!"
Anywhere between these lousy key stimulus-perfect images, the lurking depths. What that can not be trusted? What they lie to us? There were no taboos left? It makes me laugh.

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Antwort von Screws:

AAAAMEN!

As Hitchcock said, so beautiful ... the film is created in the cut. That has now all but taken a turn that has to do only very indirectly with cinema look, but probably still a little bit;)

Quote: Westentaschenphilosophische Supplement: All images were schonmal, told all the stories are

In addition, I once read somewhere that it only 200 (I think it would be so to the 200 can be wrong mcih but it might be synonymous 367;))
There are stories retold again and again.

And what remains to do ... is to open next to the doors of perception (very good book in the other), in my opinion, simply give their own perspective ... may indeed be that there are movies in which there 1000,000,000 about love ... but how do YOU tell the story (and you should have an original idea as possible as we recombined old things;))

Cheers [/ quote]

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Antwort von PowerMac:

I refer to my vision for the film look:
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uobnk/Filmlook.pdf

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Antwort von ein gast:

"Screws" wrote: As Hitchcock said, so beautiful ... the film is created in the cut.

Mr. Hitchcock in all honor, but this issue is wrong, the man (if he had really said that? We may even reverse it: the cut formed in the Rotate! Everything else is, with all due respect, nonsense. What is not rotated, can not be cut. Everything is already inherent in the material. Every movement synonymous () to a thought, whether in front of the camera or the camera itself unchangeable fixed. The rhythm can be decorated and found on average. If it is not is destroyed the film in its internal structure. If it is, it's great ...

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Antwort von jeantier:

Listen to your instincts,
develop your own ...
relating to film look gibts so many threads now ...

besides
schau mal in creacow ...

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Antwort von Axel:

a "guest" wrote: "Screws" wrote: As Hitchcock said, so beautiful ... the film is created in the cut.

Mr. Hitchcock in all honor, but this issue is wrong, the man (if he had really said that? We may even reverse it: the cut formed in the Rotate! Everything else is, with all due respect, nonsense.

Whether Hitchcock said that, I do not know. I know that he should have said that his films were already finished in his head, and the actual shooting were a nuisance, just maybe, the more beautiful story in which he liked better. A storyteller he was.
The incision is created at Rotate? First came my brother, after three months leave India a party and presented his six-hour film on Holiday Hi8. I then advised him to cut to half an hour. My brother, esthete and visual person, copied all the picturesque shots in succession and brought it even fabulous 20 minutes. The film had not been felt much shorter.
Even if the image-maker has no conscious when recording structure in mind, provides a good cutter, the potential nevertheless. And could, with the nonsense left alone, cut from three completely different films. Three-quarters of all the movies are an insult to the intelligence. They are worse than superfluous. For a conceptually-minded filmmakers a cutter (just), they were nevertheless still raw.

Anyone who thinks that cutting is therefore primarily cutting away excess material from the otherwise finished work (with the tight-fisted treatment of the cut in this forum apparently) a widespread opinion, which is to produce with all due respect, rubbish. My contempt.

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Antwort von Axel Rogge:

a "guest" wrote: "Screws" wrote: As Hitchcock said, so beautiful ... the film is created in the cut.

Mr. Hitchcock in all honor, but this issue is wrong, the man (if he had really said that? We may even reverse it: the cut formed when Rotate!


You are a cameraman, right? :-)

Najaaaa if you only take what is intentionally rotated, have you probably right. But what is with cracks, outtakes, tempered cameras - all the things that have happened by accident, not in the script or storyboard stood, some of which were synonymous rotated completely unnoticed? Which may allow some of the A *** to save if the story as it was intended and it was rotated, does not work.

What is with Music and Sound Effects? I relate with the choice of music and the music cut a story-four different times.

What do you think assembly?
Do you know the armored cruiser Pontemkin? Has been umgeschnitten of the former regime by the beginning has been placed at the end. And thus the heroes (rebels have become) a criminal, who were defeated.

And last but not least, what is with compositing? I'll make a sad scenes shot with a couple of dreamy effects settings, from the good bosses evil (Music!), Out of boredom heroes. Especially in 3D is the boundary of the camera-based storytelling yet been exceeded, no?

I Find ....
Axel Rogge

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Antwort von Screws:

@ a guest

If I have understood you correctly, it would mean that a human being so far away brings with it enough staying power and patience, the film's story synonymous understand if you give him only your raw unedited audition?

Sorry, but a film is created in the editing! Everything else is just moving pictures, may come of jigsaw pieces from which a picture, if it is correctly assembling.

It may be that for you Rotate Perhaps the greatest of all is, but in my opinion there is not much that comes close to the feeling which arises when one with a pile of material in the cut will go to his idea, his movie, piece by piece during the growth looks on.

You can use the best raw material in the world have ... if you are messing the cut scrap your movie ... totally no preference how beautiful your pictures are, or how original your script may be synonymous!

To express my views once figuratively ... for me script is practically write sex, the rotation is the birth of the cut and the education of the parents give their child up then at some time on their own feet and stands alone in the world drausen / handle on the canvas must be found.

Experiment described dich doch einfach mal s.der of Axel cutting exercise ... I hope you will Add the material from what you nem commercials Capture is not next is a jigsaw ...

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Antwort von Axel:

Only one thing I would like to straighten out:
If you can accommodate in a single picture (of infinitely many possible) voltage, intensity and information content, you're a great cameraman. You create something where once there was very little. How do you take on something so that it will crack? Standards for documentation that you even more than the writer (if there is One), the film lieferst the meat. If it's good meat, you're right in the spotlight. The script or the concept of an editor is the recipe. In this analogy, the cutters of the cooking is (top dog of the cutter tube: A good cook can even from a shoe sole even conjure up something tasty.).

As a cameraman I see too many alternatives to the recording to me instinctively, simply choose the best one. Since I have my buddies in our video club just ahead. As a photographer they were the geniuses and I am the bottle.

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Antwort von Markus:

Interesting read Bluetooth here. After what has been written so I would venture the following inference: A film produced by cutting and Rotate.

What was not rotated, it can not be cut. What will not be cut, with very few exceptions, would seeeeeeehr dull and dreary. ;-)

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