Frage von Mandi2:
Hi,
s.unserer School (7-9 school) we would like to buy a camcorder, the students and students of computer science teaching in the beginner area will learn to shoot a short movie and then they edit and cut.
Pinnacle Studio 9 is installed on all devices. Now we have s.den purchase a camcorder. The JVC Everio hard disk variants, we have reversed (see earlier posts relating to mod). Now we consider whether, for school purposes maybe the CD version may be suitable. I was advised in the sense that on a CD only about 30 min film would place that would apply to students for educational purposes but rich. The movie could then immediately to another school PC with Pinnacle's editing, which in turn would be an advantage, the Camera would be released for other students. The CD's are relatively expensive for the school but would Rewritable worthwhile.
What do you with these considerations? Thanks for the help!
The way, I was in "Mandi" to register, unfortunately, with the activation has not worked, I habs mal s.den webmaster mailed.
Gruss
Mandi
Antwort von Markus73:
Hello,
dir prevailing opinion here in the forum is:
If the film material to be processed, then either DVD or HDD or memory card camcorder, but mini-DV and nothing else.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von nl01:
Thanks Martin,
I've already seen synonymous. I just thought that the storage media DVD logistically for teaching the major advantage would be that students in the teaching-free time could make the shots, then computer science in the classroom all at once with the CD directly to the Under Edit go. With the Mini DV needs of students so the camera on his computer so he can play back. There's a lot s.Zeit lost, I see this wrong?
Gruss
Beat
Antwort von Markus73:
With the Mini DV needs of students so the camera on his computer so he can play back. There's a lot s.Zeit lost, I see this wrong?
Gruss
Beat That's right, Mini-DV in real time on the PC, ie 1 hours movie = 1 hour.
If the DVD does it much faster. There is generally only the problem that the MPEG used herein, a "format" and is therefore trying to edit it, various other problems and loss of quality may occur. If you really plan, you should particularly with the existing software to test whether the treatment is working. The most popular editing software products are in fact very largely on editing of DV material designed.
Once you have written but of short films, you should be the argument with the duration of the dubbing synonymous not so dominant. DVDs are in fact just after the recording directly synonymous not "ready", but must first be finalized, it takes synonymous.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von TheBubble:
students and students of computer science teaching in the beginner area will learn to shoot a short movie and then they edit and cut.
Excuse the question, but where should the Rotate and sheaths of the shooting related to computer science come from?
Antwort von Mandi2:
Hi TheBubble,
computer science teaching in primary school (school elective in 9th) in Switzerland to learn the students at our next program, word, excel, powerpoint, web, photoshop elements synonymous to digital DV editing with pinnacle know, the latter not so much in the Depth will be gone.
Suffice thee that?
Gruss
Mandi
Antwort von TheBubble:
Hi Mandi,
but then that's unfortunately part no "real" computer science lessons. Another name would certainly be better, because the name is in the students a false otherwise easy idea what computer science is and what scientists can and do.
Camera on the topic: I think that it described in the application rather than on specific technical capabilities of the equipment arrives. The Cam should be rather stable and is not synonymous with expensive, a total loss can certainly never be ruled out.
When recording format (codec) you should be careful what the existing software processes and what the calculator afford. As the format is DV (DV is the codec, miniDV tapes are the recording medium) is widespread, the dubbing of the data, however, only happens in real time.
And last: The teacher should be synonymous with the device can handle, not just the students;)
Antwort von steveb:
Ultimately plays synonymous but the budget an important role. To do this you have had nothing written. Before I zb 600 euro in a "better" camera would invest, it is synonymous the question whether or not it would make sense, of which 2 cameras to buy a 300. Thus synonymous recordings from different perspectives possible as synonymous two projects operated in parallel.
However, my choice would be the recording medium synonymous DV.
Antwort von Mandi2:
Hello TheBubble but synonymous steveb
TheBubble, how would you then this lesson with you in D say. Here in the U.S., we now hold times this name and the name of the subject itself, we have little to say. In terms of teaching content, but we already have certain freedoms. ;-)
With your comment about dealing with the Camera, I agree. I really dare me to this deal to learn, as with the other LP is that I only .....
That with the price and with the total loss is in fact an argument that I maybe would have enough respect. Thanks for the tip!
I thought about this with 650 euros of the budget 1 Camera and 1 additional battery purchase.
The idea of steveb, 2 cameras, but a slightly lower price, I will still think me and with my computer science curators discuss partner.
DV recording media seems to predominate. My original idea, storage media CD, is obviously of no one welcomes.
Gruss
Mandi2
Antwort von steveb:
Remember synonymous when a camera breaks down times (kiddys create the :-), do you have a second and a CameraLink for 300 euro can be easier to replace than a 650th I think the Panasonic GS 27 for a good alternative. The ranges for school may be just fine.
http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/product/product.asp?sStr=4 @ - @ 10 @ 21 @ 120@@@@GS27EG-NV-S @ Mini-DV | @ & Camcorders outmoded = N & upper = & prop = TEST
Antwort von Mandi2:
Hoi Stefan,
looks promising this Panasonic, they've already expensive in the U.S. for 260 euros seen.
I have JVC nor of the new BN-VF733 Battery (5 hours of recording time!) With a value of 150 euro. Now I have of the JVC GR-D320 MiniDV for 250 Euro with 2 years warranty terms. What do you mean this? Who knows these GR-D320? Would anything?
I'm thrilled the way of this forum have already learn a great deal may be here. Everybody thank you.
Gruss
Mandi2
Antwort von steveb:
I stand on Panasonic somehow :-)
Antwort von Mandi2:
Hoi Stefan,
Jan has written to me in http://forum.slashcam.de/jvc-minidv-camcorder-gr-d320-vt43833.html?highlight=schule that, on the other synonymous Panasonic Batteries would fit.
Can you confirm, that would be of course the famous Tüpfchen on the i, if my JVC BN-VF733 Battery to the GS-27 would fit! - That I would be immediately available for Panasonic - fan made.
Gruss
Mandi2
Antwort von steveb:
Of course, there are still synonymous called "replicas" of various third-party manufacturers .... but I hardly think that the JVC Batteries because it should fit.
Look at Ebay under Batteries. Are there very cheap and often synonymous in the same quality as the original.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Hoi Stefan,
Jan has written to me in http://forum.slashcam.de/jvc-minidv-camcorder-gr-d320-vt43833.html?highlight=schule that, on the other synonymous Panasonic Batteries would fit.
Can you confirm, that would be of course the famous Tüpfchen on the i, if my JVC BN-VF733 Battery to the GS-27 would fit! - That I would be immediately available for Panasonic - fan made.
Gruss
Mandi2 The fit is not quite sure.
Antwort von Mandi2:
Hi,
now I have the matter resolved. The MIGROS Switzerland has synonymous expensive Battery withdrawn, the price refunded. So there is still synonymous obliging firms ....
I have now bought the GS 27, plus an additional auction Battery (DU 14). At the GS 27 was not a Firewire cable to the I had to buy yet.
Now we hope s.unserer school for success. We are first time with this GS 27 the first steps and then make a second camcorder to buy, ev re GS 27th
I thank Stefan synonymous and all others for the great advice. I've learned a lot and this forum will recommend next. Thank you.
Mandi2
Antwort von steveb:
Everything must submit an oath, is here to help :-)
Antwort von Jan:
What now?
Others already but certainly not the 733er of JVC!
With what I Other CGR DU 6, CGA DU 7,12,14,21 I had in the other
Post.
Always the words rumdrehen ....
VG
Jan
