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Frage von Tong-Len:


Hello,

I'm looking for some time on, suitable for a camcorder.

I would be filmed mainly Acrobatic Sports deposits. (Flips to gymnasiums and synonymous outdoor)

Really want to make good-looking short films (sampler). soon have to hire before training as a video editor to make / cutter too. So I need good quality. (Asking price: 400-900 Euro) (unfortunately, had previously never used a cam)
This would require me actually very important not to blur the images. I like recordings, which are somewhat dynamic (but quiet) (stop such a small camera rides) example that I think the camera only at head height, direction, and then quickly lowered floor and high filme ... hold left or right movements.
I need to stabilisator sowas one OIS (Optical)?
synonymous, it would pay off if I sowas for example, the strobelsche wheel or so I still buy?

Especially for the high jumps, I would like to shoot a lot of high ground to the top. (then see it from above)
for that I probably needed a good weitwinkel right? What would look good?
tele is not as important to me. (I'd like you to zoom such an analog switch that I can zoom arbitrarily fast or slow, so no einheitszoom)

16:9 I am certainly not at ahrg.
the videos that I do with them, I make free internet for the community. So it is considered more properly monitor on a PC. is useful for 16:9, 4:3 or rather (as is yes, then the entire surface without forming beam)
But when I am video editor to learn, would it be better if I would have been synonymous 16:9??
I want to hire some kurzfilme synonymous with story ... rotate. makes it sowas in 16:9? In future there will always be lower to higher are not at 4:3. mhhh

3 ccd / cmos chips I would have already.
a friendly has now bought the sony pc1000. Are there with the HC90 synonymous 3 chips? what is the HC90 in comparison to the 200 euro more expensive pc1000?
Now, when I, together with his movies, we already have a digital camera position ne more. The question is whether the cut when it strikes uncomfortable if I for example with the gs250 panasonic GS150 or movies, and he with the sony. (I colored my image of her breast ...; sharpness, brightness ...)

exactly! quite important: I use in some very fast movements in slow motion synonymous cut more times. you get with the normal cams up to 1000 euro to correct Smooth slowmotion? (the cut after me) so impressive slow-motion shots of a heavy-duty camera very much.
need for time-supergut lupen progressive video mode? gibts that up to 1000 euro?

Unfortunately, the time is pressing because next weekend I am at a sporting event, and then it would cut a great video. the problem is synonymous, that I prefer to taste from start to one of the cheapest provider would like to order by guenstiger.de. but I'm afraid that I have the camera then not until the weekend (plus I want to be secure in advance umgang ... So much to try to test /) (s.morgen holiday ^ ^) I
that is, if it were that I buy locally at a dealer for a camera / ausleihe to test and then after the weekend once again give back (14 days return privilege) DOES IT WORK?
I could only test auchmal one / two modele. (I'm constantly reading that someone has bought ne cam, but then she has returned again because they did not meet expectations.)

Closer choice: sony hc 90 / sony pc1000 / panasonic gs 75 / panasonic GS150 / panasonic gs250 / Canon MVX 300 / Canon MVX 350i / ... KA

what would have s.geeignetsten for me? or synonymous of me from all other models ....
I trust in your professional opinion
thank you very much
Silvio (Tong-Len)

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Antwort von PowerMac:

You have to read out again as an incredibly professional claim.
Contrast, 400-900 euros. What a joke ...
Whether a particular camera has 3 chips, you yourself will find out very quickly. This will pick out anyone for me.
slow motion - forget it.
Tracking shots - forget it.
Pans - forget it.

You want at least one prosumer (FX1, Z1, DVX100 together, etc.) with a Steadicam with a lot of stroke (Steadicam Merlin, Glidecam ...) and a crane (such as maintaining the Black Eagle or EBay-cheap stuff in order to)

Sure you need an optical rod But you need one synonymous Tripod (If you're on "smooth", an expensive s.400/500 euros).
Your body is not a crane system. Or do you intend to "crane shot making" themselves, with the poor? That we go in my pants. A fortiori, with a small camera.

16:9 has NOTHING to do with bands. Kommmen The beams when one reflects s.anamorphes 16:9 material on a 4:3 device, or b abgekascht) (letterbox) films. The latter is worth as much as an engine of s.70PS is limited. Glue pros monitor, viewfinder with Gaffa s.and give the cut a certain "sliding" record instead of black lines to - 4:3 in the normal picture.

You should be at least of the Panasonic GS400. DVC-30 or better a DVX100. Then bring synonymous with the handling, with which (crane) journeys to make pans. Moreover, they are much better suited for hand-held camera (freehand filming).
However, synonymous of a used Sony PD150 or 170, or an XL1 or what of JVC ... (s.1500 ¬).

Next of course you need a micro synonymous. A good, otherwise you can still cut so great (you seem to be able to) and it still looks modest. Or do you belong to those who failed Dudelmusik with everything anyway? Hopefully not.

That your movies will be viewed only s.PC, makes the whole thing, unfortunately, not better. As would be worth considering if you do not take anything else for entry, which records in RGB instead of) in the CMYK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model. Or you'll learn a gamma correction and color correction. S.PC video looks a lot paler and flauer as s.TV.

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Antwort von Markus:

"PowerMac" wrote: As would be worth considering if you do not take anything else for entry, which records in RGB instead of CMYK ...
Hi Patrick,

CMYKYUV - or YCbCr.

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Hello Silvio,

Patrick has already mentioned all the important things that come with a calm, professional camera work: Crane, Steadicam and the classic tripod. If your claims are so professional and the budget so low might be an equipment rental is right for you. Since you were allowed to receive the said sum for all the needed parts.

But: All that you will not help if you have no experience in dealing with it. And you learn not synonymous in a 30-minute crash course, but only after many years of hard work. - Perhaps you know someone whom you could hire for the Money?

See synonymous:


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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Markus" wrote: Hi Patrick,

CMYK spielt im Druckbereich eine Rolle, Video recordings bewegen sich hingegen im YUV - or YCbCr.


And then I was like I had no idea discredited.
I actually Meinte;) I confuse YUV and CMYK unfortunately s.and.
Thanks anyway;)

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Antwort von Stefan:

Do you like the videos of your friend from the picture from? If your friend cope with the Camera? If so I would take the same camera. accessories can then be exchanged synonymous well.

With the dynamic images you think again. The camera should be used as an observer. The action is in front of the camera. The audience even jumping onto and not synonymous.

Good luck
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von prem:

danke erstmal s.alle. which has already helped me little bit more ...

probably had really expected too much. (I mean this camcorder would need 1-2 years ago 2000-3000 euro synonymous nor have cost) mhhh

I tend to think sony

But a few have asked for HC90 and pc1000

Are the batteries the same?
the battery is indeed in the HC90 in the housing. And I have read in the forum that you can then use virtually no reserve battery ... I can not believe it really ...

Synonymous I read that the HC90 has launch a special video effect, which received a bit more makes you look like cinema look. what can you tell about it?

cam which sport is better for recordings? which has the better image stabilization?

the panasonic, you can even adjust the dazzle really horny manuel. (as of foreground to focus on background ...) this works with the sony's synonymous?

Would it be noticeable negative in the video edited together, if material of the two cams (HC90 and pc1000) would be mixed?

The HC90 has only one chip (which is actually a cmos or ccd chip?) And has pc1000 3 CMOS chips. makes the extreme quality differences?
have a video on the internet of HC90 seen, and I like it eigetnlich quite well if the colors are not presented as an extremely colorful. (halt not so typical of these camcorders look)
http://www.magazinevideo.com/video-details.php?videoId=118
(because the yellow hyperlink on the right under the picture)
with the pc1000 I stopped my buddy was somehow like camcorders. aba is in the HC90 then just as determined not it?

how do you think? ye vlt video material online?

I thank you
Tong-Len

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Anonymous" wrote: Are the batteries the same?
the battery is indeed in the HC90 in the housing. And I have read in the forum that you can then use virtually no reserve battery ... I can not believe it really ...

Synonymous I read that the HC90 has launch a special video effect, which received a bit more makes you look like cinema look. what can you tell about it?

cam which sport is better for recordings? which has the better image stabilization?

the panasonic, you can even adjust the dazzle really horny manuel. (as of foreground to focus on background ...) this works with the sony's synonymous?

Would it be noticeable negative in the video edited together, if material of the two cams (HC90 and pc1000) would be mixed?

The HC90 has only one chip (which is actually a cmos or ccd chip?) And has pc1000 3 CMOS chips. makes the extreme quality differences?
have a video on the internet of HC90 seen, and I like it eigetnlich quite well if the colors are not presented as an extremely colorful. (halt not so typical of these camcorders look)
http://www.magazinevideo.com/video-details.php?videoId=118
(because the yellow hyperlink on the right under the picture)
with the pc1000 I stopped my buddy was somehow like camcorders. aba is in the HC90 then just as determined not it?

how do you think? ye vlt video material online?

I thank you
Tong-Len


So with the Aperture makes it certainly not sharp. To focus shifts, we need a good focus.
The "film look" effect is no need to be sure.
Whether one of you to mix the material can be expressed cameras, nobody knows. Try it out. Buy online and possibly return it.

I regret it already almost down on the rest of the questions refer to s.eine-known search engine. In the era of the Internet it will still be synonymous print magazines that write s.and s.gute test reports. Video Aktiv Digital, video, etc. Both have been tested and that more than half a page. There is synonymous beginners advice.

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

the contribution due to the battery size was möglichweise of me.
In the HC 90 is eg FA 50 Battery (supplied) or FA 70th
Unfortunately, an FA for 70 synonymous, in practice no more than 3 h (if any) Because of the battery into the battery slot is the size limit stop, a drawback to the HC 90th Of course I can use several FA 50 and FA 70 (I never claimed anything else)
But there are other cameras hold, where you can certainly buy the battery's 5 am.

The auto focus time, and the stabilizer of the HC 90 is among the best in the class.

Exactly many models of Sonyinkl PC 1000 Twin HC 90, you can not directly select the aperture, say about the scene modes of the camera what you want eg sports (fast shutter speed) - dusk or night program (slower shutter speed)

In recordings "sleep light" it would be possible to see differences in the two, as the PC produced by 1000, a noisy lengths Picture, in daylight, you are certainly on a par.

The HC 90 has a CCD chip, the PC 1000 is the first Mini DV with CMOS chip.

LG
January

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Antwort von LuFaHa:

Because of the slow:

Although you'll hardly a camcorder in your price range with slow-motion function to find, but by digital post-processing, you should still be possible by interpolating your movie to one quarter of normal speed to slow down. And this is still in "smooth"-looking movement.
All Camcorders eventually take on 50 fields per second. To think you can easily halve by Deinterlancing times the speed. And by Söpezialprogramme and blend again you can slow down the speed by half.

I remember the name of such Z. nem plug is not paid, which is the semi-pro for the deployment.

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