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Welchen PC als Videoschnittsystem?

What is the PC as a video editing system?



Frage von admin:
August 2006

Here are two basic slashCAM articles that the Choice and installation of an optimal DV editing PC help:

What do I need for a PC for DV editing?





Antwort von nickname:

This posting is old, yet you shall receive a reply.
It is important to have at least two hard disks. On one, the editing program and is on the other film. Both are on a hard drive can lead to jerkiness. Film heist steady stream of data must be available. For example, if your reading head suddenly jumps to another place because he has to call up additional parts of the program, it was das When two plates is not a problem because the Lesekop on the video board does not need to retrieve parts of the program.
Advantageously a video card. It is for Pinnacle, Avid and Matrox as the most important representatives. The now standard on the market, processors are sufficient. With a capture card, they play no significant role any more. So one can assume for most users dual-processor technology to be too exaggerated. Should you wish, but mitmischen in the semi or professional area, you need hard disks. Especially if you should have lots of jobs, and have parallel on the plate to the final backup to tape. Remember 1 hr film are about 11 GB. I have had to give me my dream machine now views as an offer. I opted for a dual processor, I synonymous editing high resolution photos. These four 300 GB hard disks (SATA) and 2 GB of Ram and video card with 2 monitors to control for 1050 Eu. But then you're living in luxury.

Ciao
Rob



Antwort von steveb:

This posting is old, yet you shall receive a reply.

I think the thread author, you would like to give an assist and had no less () asked for help ...





Antwort von prem:

I am of the opinion that it is worth a consideration of whether to buy only a PC or even a Mac.
If this computer is used for cutting and do not necessarily require a compatibility with existing Programs I would advise you to eimem Mac.
The advantages are obvious.



Antwort von Gast - 2:

Quote:
I think the thread author, you would like to give an assist and had no less () asked for help ...


In the case of the author - is perhaps the most out of this community should he refers to the part of the community - can close the thread (). Then there synonymous No more messages * gg *.



Antwort von mtemp:

"nickname" wrote:
It is important to have at least two hard disks. On one, the editing program and is on the other film. Both are on a hard drive can lead to jerkiness.


Is not that enough of a S-ATA hard drive? Or, for example is in Premiere Pro 2.0 is still the recommendation to use multiple hard disks to?

Many greetings of Carlos



Antwort von steveb:

Two plates are actually always recommend them :-)



Antwort von Markus:

"steveb" wrote:
Two plates are actually always recommend them :-)

I agree with me. Not least because you can only create such a meaningful image that a can save in case of doubt or the evening depending on the installed software (volume), even the whole weekend.

Cross reference:
Information and links relating to Image



Antwort von charles ügo:

Apple MAC or Windows PC - who will help me next?

New acquisition because DV editing on Windows XP does not work anymore ...

Apple MAC
Option 1: MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2160 13 "SD white German, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB HD - upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and more HD necessary?

German Version 2: iMac Intel Core 2 Duo 2000 17 "SD, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB HD - upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and more HD necessary?

PC
Option 3: HP Pavilion dv6230ea Notebook PC (RT139EA) Intel ® Core !" Duo Processor T2250, 1024 MB RAM min, 80 GB 5400 rpm - Processor OK? Upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and more HD necessary?

.. or would you prefer to unpack again the Super 8 mm splicer?

Thanks in advance

Michael



Antwort von PowerMac:

I would take a 20 "iMac with 2 GB of RAM. But a 17" it is not synonymous bad. Ne larger panel you can connect to the back and then via firewire or USB 2.0. But 2 GB of RAM have to be.



Antwort von JMitch:

"nickname" wrote:

It is important to have at least two hard disks. On one, the editing program and is on the other film. Both are on a hard drive can lead to jerkiness.


I have an internal 80 GB hard drive and an external 300GB hard drive. Until now I have the video editing program on the Internal and the video files on the external. Is that reasonable or should I rather all internal to the store?

PS: The hard drive runs on USB 2.0



Antwort von HGreen:

Hello together.
I have been following short cut the system:
CPU: Intel Core2Extreme QX6700, 4 cores à 2.66 GHz
RAM: 4GB G-Skill DDR2 in dual channel
Hard disks: 2x 500GB in Raid-0, ie each of the 500GB disks consists of 2 hard disks with 250GB each (for a total installed HDs are in the PC 4). Theoretically, the boards achieve a write speed of 600MB / s. In practice, it comes close to this value, but not quite right after all.

Cutting in Premiere Pro has since become a dream, the rendering is super-fast and needs to be done less frequently as transitions, effects, etc. without problems unger Endert in real time are presented in the Project Towns. In the past I can not even represent a simple aperture without rendering the transition smoothly. Exporting is synonymous become a matter of seconds thanks to faster disks. So my tip: If possible, use RAID-0 hard disks and invest in more RAM ...

edit: @ Guest (post) about me: I have had, until recently, synonymous internal relatively small plate and for that alone, as you edit my video on an external data. On the internal was not only too little space but it has, as already mentioned geruckelt, reload the program if it is badly needed, especially if you have a little RAM to be expected that sooner or later, this way a lossy painful and possibly crash takes place.



Antwort von Valentino:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Apple MAC or Windows PC - who will help me next?
Apple MAC
Option 1: MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2160 13 "SD white German, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB HD - upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and more HD necessary?

German Version 2: iMac Intel Core 2 Duo 2000 17 "SD, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB HD - upgrade to 2 GB of RAM and more HD necessary?

So a Mac is already views the right choice, but I would rather grow a Mac Book Pro, because this simple upgrade to an iMac, "" is. I miss s.dem small iMacs synonymous the Firewire 800 port, because just when it comes to working with big movie files is a faster interface is worth gold. On a Mac Book can be created on the interface then even an Express 34 eSATA controller anschliesen and with two identical hard disks, a RAID (0 or 1).
In your place I would make my time synonymous with a Mac Pro thinking, but only if the device is not intended to be mobile.

Greeting

Valentino



Antwort von JMitch:

Thank you for your tips!

So now I have brought together:

- Apple is ideal for DV editing s.Besten
- Hard disk capacity can later expand external
- 2GB of RAM it should have
- As a mobile solution, a MacBookPro to a MacBook or iMac is recommended.

I'll buy myself wohlfolgendes system:

Apple MacBook Pro
2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Resolutionvon 1440 x 900 pixels
2 GB of RAM
120 GB Disk1
8x SuperDrive (Double Layer)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT GPU with 128 MB SDRAM

That comes from the design synonymous better home s.als this white iMac or MacBook design ...

Have you had experience with DV editing with this system? Is it suitable?

When is the best time for a purchase? Prices are falling because of the new operating system next?

Thanks for your help in advance

Michael



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Anonymous" wrote:
(...) When is the best time for a purchase? (...)


Now. Have just updated with new LED displays and new architecture. And buy when you need it. It is initially expected because Leopard no price reductions. Leopard also takes a while.



Antwort von roller247:

've Heard that new iMacs come .. I think I'll take one.



Antwort von sonjas:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Thank you for your tips!

So now I have brought together:

- Apple is ideal for DV editing s.Besten


Where is it, or so says the nonsense?



Antwort von sonjas:

Is it synonymous to edit videos, or well on a MacBook, there are difficulties because there is no GPU's inside? New MacBooks come with Leopard out?



Antwort von PowerMac:

To do it. There are only problems with color. Without graphics card, the program does not work. MacBooks with FCS there to be sufficient - if not officially supported synonymous.



Antwort von sonjas:

"PowerMac" wrote:
To do it. There are only problems with color. Without graphics card, the program does not work. MacBooks with FCS there to be sufficient - if not officially supported synonymous.


Thanks for the note. FCS? what is it? And color is a bildbearbeitunbgsprogramm? sorry am new apple in the world -



Antwort von PowerMac:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/



Antwort von mephisto1384:

have long considered synonymous whether mac or pc.
but for the mac pro just a little one or the other 1000s and the iMacs are not the great book now synonymous renner.
excluded) screen and final cut (probably the best video editing software that's there - in my opinion he is quite a bit more expensive than a pc.
where we can say nothing against the cinema displays, which are real panele go back home.
primarily, I am firmly convinced that it is geschmackssache - whether mac or pc - if I can afford it, I'd convert to macpro.

hab jetz an ultra-pc force appointed.
Processor: E6600 dualcore2 3.2 GHz
Memory: 4gb
graphics: geforce 8800 gts 640mb (for the gtx hats no longer gerreicht)
hd: 1tb
for the 1300th --
this is really ok.
'm curious how he does.

lg
alex



Antwort von Basti.S:

And what you now are cutting?



Antwort von mephisto1384:

I've already been around forever have an AMD 2600 + with 1gb RAM, 800GB hdd and a radeon really not particularly outstanding 9200th
It was - as you can see - more time for something new.
I cut mostly to avid or premiere pro and there we have with this computer certainly one or the other problem.

lg
alex



Antwort von Waran:

"nickname" wrote:
It is important to have at least two hard disks. On one, the editing program and is on the other film. Both are on a hard drive can lead to jerkiness. Film heist steady stream of data must be available. For example, if your reading head suddenly jumps to another place because he has to call up additional parts of the program, it was das When two plates is not a problem because the Lesekop on the video board does not need to retrieve parts of the program.


Tsss ... This reminds me s.The time 10 years ago, when the transfer rates of hard disks still in the single digit MB / s-lying area. Back then that was probably essential. But today I can even capture on my laptop and work casually or with other programs that rumspringt the head like crazy, without a single dropped frame. Any reasonably current Plattte writes the 3.125 Mb / s with a weary smile, even if it has to do something else to the side ...

"Markus" wrote:
I agree with me. Not least because you can only create such a meaningful image that a can save in case of doubt or the evening depending on the installed software (volume), even the whole weekend.


This statement is false. The prerequisite for creating a separate partition images are not separate hard disks ...

Two or more disks are, of course, already a fine thing, but then rather than RAID.



Antwort von WoWu:

... today you would have to provide an entirely different question:
"What format do you want to make it" .... the answer is one of the most recent .... agrees with everything.
If the answer is but AVC, then everyone should even look at the specifications exactly and above all, synonymous to the DSP's necessary to make the jobs already .... then he will come very quickly to the view that his PC can not even manage more approximate.
"Sidecar Processing" is the key to AVC ... it's finally over synonymous with the entire intermediate codec.
The nice thing is that the NLE's will do just yet, the administration .... And that is synonymous to the old computers. So no reason to be concerned now about a new computer thoughts .... relax!



Antwort von Markus:

There is another reason why it does not interfere with Programs more user data: The data backup. The system partition and saved Programs and their configuration can be much simpler, faster and less buggy back up if there are no user data in between.

At the same time you have a better overview of their data and may possibly synonymous times reformat the hard drive when a project is completed and the data has been archived. If someone is working with hard disks in personal computers and large amounts of data often times saves / deletes, no longer aware of the increasing volume of usable storage capacity. This can not be easily restored by emptying the Recycle Bin, or by a defrag, but often only by formatting the disk.



Antwort von Realit:

"Markus" wrote:
... format the hard drive ...


Formats are still still PARTITIONS, not hard disks. Unless you mean low-level formatting, which I once did not go out very strong.

Otherwise, I agree, however. Systems where everything is on "C:" I have a horror.



Antwort von Realit:

I decided to physically separate disks. I so can Paltte for the project to exchange data easily (change context), if I want to potter s.etwas other major project. I can also set the record for archival purposes after work simply on the shelf.

I've synonymous system and program disk in removable frame. This makes it easier for me personally I need the Imaging and puttering around in different environments with no boot managers. If I fail the plate, I'll just push the other in..

Since I already have several Fesstplatten broke and I'd rather be a physical separation. It is less a lost at a stroke.



Antwort von thos-berlin:

ANd again I was not connected ... ;-)



Antwort von Beatfabrikant:

Kanns I repeat again and again. The computer configuration should be supported of the programs. It brings the coolest hardware synonymous nothing if not clever in harmony with the Progs.

If Avid: ONLY certified workstations, such as the MacBook Pro
If Final Cut: general Mac. Is indeed synonymous for anything else available

And all synonymous with the Semiprogs: Look what hardware to support the Manufacturer Recommend /. Should it rather be a Radeon or a Geforce card.

Peace!



Antwort von DDP_nicht eingeloggt:

I want to buy me one HV20 late January with a new computer. For the computer (no screen, just the "box") I want to max. 900 euros to spend. I will use usAfterEffects, green screen, etc., etc.

I will say in advance: in terms of hardware components details'm no expert. From what I read out there in the forum, the PC would have 2 physical hard disks and 4GB RAM.

s.Bestünde the possibility that compiles some one of my pity;) and a list of the individual components?

b) What do you think of this Aldi PC? http://www.aldi-sued.de/de/html/offers/1213_6723.htm



Antwort von thos-berlin:

Please you inquire, bo the editing system of your choice running under Vista. This was namely the PC from the link as the operating system.



Antwort von Meggs:

"Logged DDP_nicht" wrote:

b) What do you think of this Aldi PC? http://www.aldi-sued.de/de/html/offers/1213_6723.htm


In the current C't A test report is in there, you should probably read times.



Antwort von DDP:

"thos-berlin" wrote:
Please you inquire, bo the editing system of your choice running under Vista. This was namely the PC from the link as the operating system.


In itself, I wanted anyway to use XP SP2. As for the program, it will most likely Magix Deluxe Studio and / or Pinnacle (low cost) + After Effects, Premiere Pro, maybe later.



Antwort von Nightfly!:

Moin!

So a Core2Duo 6600, it should be at least.
2GB Ram and fast Festenplatten s.besten in Raid0.

Greeting
Nightfly!



Antwort von DDP:

Have let me put together in the "shop around the corner", the following list. Now I would like to ask for your opinion, if the hardware configuration in which the HDV editing, what sort?

IntelCore2 Quad Q6600 2.40 GHz (S775) BOX
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Asus P5K Intel P35
2 x GoodRam DDR2 2x1 GB 800 MHz
2 x Seagate 500 GB Barracuda 7200.11 (32 MB, Serial ATA II)
LG Super Multi DVD + /-RW GSA-H55L LightScribe black bulk
Asus 512MB GeForce 8800 GT TV & 2xDVI (PCI-E)
Microsoft Windows Professional OEM SP2c
Chieftec (GPS-450AA-101A) 450W bulk



Antwort von robbie:

The 2x 500GB, I'd take one example, the system 100GB hard drive. Then you can format the other 2 again, and run beautifully as synonymous raid ...



Antwort von DDP:

Hmmm ... that is 100 GB for Windows, one for the cut and the programs of the camera dubbed material and one for the cut-intermediate??



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"DDP" wrote:
Hmmm ... that is 100 GB for Windows, one for the cut and the programs of the camera dubbed material and one for the cut-intermediate??

No, the two 500s in RAID (if you is what s.der security of the data), so you have to speak, only a 500 plate, which then flipped ".
If you security but is a damn (You do not work as commercial or under time pressure and are willing to start at the front of a disk crash, because you have kept the original tapes), you can basically use the disks as you want. Then they should be reformatted to only occasionally, because they are fragmenting with the time and this can dramatically slow down the calculator.
BG
Andreas



Antwort von btsroller:

So I hope I'm really landed here ....

I have to buy myself a new computer to cut and restructure of the www.arlt.com a bit.

HERE THE COMPUTERS SOLD AS IS:

http://www.arlt.com/oxid.php/sid/839df190e611ecf61303b2623d34c7ae/cl/details/anid/3090146

I'm going to the 2 gb ram where already there and sell themselves with 8 gb (replaced 4 times per 2gb riegel).

then Windows XP Professional 64-bit version

nen new 21-inch (not yet confirmed which one)

'm still thinking whether I should get this hdd:
http://www.arlt.com/oxid.php/sid/3b0e3544ef33dd10dcc6fb7695389ad4/cl/details/cnid/4cf46a88d8fbfb153.76058831/anid/1040696

The wars of me

What do you think??

CRITICISM FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR DESIRABLE



Antwort von immanuelkant:

Check out my configuration (below) in the signature. Since I changed 1 month ago, the graphics card, it runs at Videoschnit 100%), stable (and quick. A more modern graphics card ATI HD 2600 XT had previously been problems.

Board is ASUS P5 de luxe. Overall, I have now run 3 hard disks in there and for video 2x500GB in Raid-0-bond.

The dealer / Manufacturer I can - if interested - recommend!



Antwort von C.I.W:

What I have so far regarding gegört ARLT was just good. Very reliable and relatively inexpensive. But with the quad, I would think again. Apparently the most optimized Windows Programs not quad. Purchase you rather have a 3Ghz dual core. And not a Vista Betriebssysthem. That is so lame and wrong eating much Ram. 1Gb there is not enough. In normal operation, the Ram s.dem laptop, s.dem I was always cut at 1.2 GB ... + -. Show that you grow your XP Professionel.



Antwort von immanuelkant:

"CIW" wrote:
.... Purchase you rather have a 3Ghz dual core. And not a Vista Betriebssysthem. That is so lame and wrong eating much Ram. 1Gb there is not enough. In normal operation, the Ram s.dem laptop, s.dem I was always cut at 1.2 GB ... + -. Show that you grow your XP Professionel.


This with Vista, I can not confirm * *. I have just DV editing on my PC (because of this talk), I have Vista 64 and XPpof parallel install. Completely contrary to my expectation: The video performance of the HDV and DV editing (with Pinnacle 11) with Vista experience better performance!



Antwort von catchafire:

I have not read it all here in this thread, just skimmed

I have before me 3 of my home pc ein bissel months bolstered that I can make at home what synonymous. currently is in it:

motherboards p5kr
pentium processor q6600 (quad core)
did the tray version and a cheap cooler
2gb ram ddr2, kingston, it was I think ...
to a video card for 50E
Windows XP but not 64 bit!
And mine are flat with external usb angestöpselt

the computer is freshly placed
With the performance I am not satisfied
So hdv cut does work but it does not really fun
working with premiere cs3 and my pc actually uses 4 cores of only 2.5
stable throughout the run is not really synonymous ...



Antwort von immanuelkant:

"catchafire" wrote:
... to a video card for 50E ...
And mine are flat with external usb angestöpselt

the computer is freshly placed
With the performance I am not satisfied
So hdv cut does work but it does not really fun ...


Yes, DV editing is just a theme, where everything must fall into. 've Turned this time, therefore s.einen specialized vendors who made a (cheap) custom-made.
If your configure this, I think the USB hard disks, and the graphics card for real weaknesses!



Antwort von catchafire:

do not believe that the vga card debt is not that clever premiere running. usb brakes but I have often synonymous with an internal panels have been working are about the angschlossen SATA2. I suspect the XP 32bit and CS3 is ... not the yellow of ei ...



Antwort von anne1080:

Hello admin,
Unfortunately I have not found the right answer!
unfortunately out of date! 8 (

For this reason I have started a new thread with the name "Which PC for HD video editing and cut ..." !

Many thanks for your understanding!

anne1080



Antwort von anne1080:

Here is a list of my researched and reworked:

1 ASUS P5K se P35 Motherboard / Socket 775

1 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6700 2.667GHz Box 2667 MHz CPU - 8MB / 775
FSB1066 Core 2 Quad / 65nm

2 DDR2 / 2048 MB / 800MHz /

1 VGA ASUS EN9600GT HTDI 512MB NVIDIA 9600GT graphics card ASUS

1 Computer Power Supply 650 Watt ATX - Installation

1 Go Midi LC-182 Midi-Tower Case ATX / without power supply

I would be super grateful for a tip of you!
Perhaps synonymous me one or the other to optimize or suggest something similar!

Many thanks dear

Anne_1080p



Antwort von brendan:

newbiefrage: what video card you need? is not all about firewire? (I have a XH-A1 will have ..)



Antwort von thos-berlin:

Video cards usually need one: for the input and output of analogue material (eg synonymous when one wants to examine the PC-sectional s.einem TV monitor) or other digital formats that are not Firewire (eg, SDI).



Antwort von brendan:

"thos-berlin" wrote:
Video cards usually need one: for the input and output of analogue material (eg synonymous when one wants to examine the PC-sectional s.einem TV monitor) or other digital formats that are not Firewire (eg, SDI).


So I need this for the XH A1 is not .. has

DV - In / DV - Out
HDV - In / HDV - Out

DV - In / Out, Firewire is still synonymous, right? And what is HDV - In / Out?
How do I close the part s.besten s.PC s.bzw how do I get the footage of s.besten the tape in the calculator?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"brendan" wrote:
... DV - In / Out, Firewire is still synonymous, right? And what is HDV - In / Out? ...

Both are considered synonymous DV HDV transferred via Firewire - all three names are on the same socket.

"brendan" wrote:
... How do I close the part s.besten s.PC s.bzw how do I get the footage of s.besten tape in the calculator? ...

Here you will find the answers to these questions:
FireWire FAQ">Camcorder / recorder s.PC connect, capture and edit images

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von brendan:

ok thanks for the indicative. I will in future then just buy an external Firewire disks! (And now I I came up with a FireWire controller ordered)

gruß



Antwort von thos-berlin:

You get the video via firewire of the camera into the calculator.

The hard disks do not need to be connected with Firewire (sometimes even counterproductive would that be!).



Antwort von brendan:

Why? According to the texts, the firewire interface much better choice for external hard drives to be (and a constant high data stream, no cpu load)



Antwort von thos-berlin:

If done hard drive connector and camera connector s.gleichen Firewire controller (not FW connection), can (but need not) be in capturing the two data streams each brake.

One has to try it.



Antwort von brendan:

hm. now I have a controller with rather more connections purchased.
I try it this way once, klappts vllt yes, and if not, just come here once a with 1-2 connections for camcorders.

cheeers



Antwort von Markus:

"brendan" wrote:
According to the texts, the firewire interface much better choice for external hard drives to be (and a constant high data stream, no cpu load)

This is true, but may, in different parts of a computer hinder each other. So I would always buy the hard drive with those recommended several ports, Firewire, therefore, high-speed USB and eSATA necessary. Halt what the computer does everything.

If it should make a specific interface with other devices in combination problems, do you put the hard drive simply s.einen different port, and already the problem is none left. :-)



Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hello,
I think now synonymous with a new purchase, and to consider:

32bit or 64bit with XP Pro?

The rest is probably: DuoCore 3.0 GHz, 1 x 300 GB, 2 x 750 GB, 4 GB RAM, Nvidia 8800 GT with 512 MB.
In the box must continue to Photoshop, Quark Xpress, PhotoMechanic, Bibble Pro, Star Money, OpenOffice and all the minutia.

The 64-bit thing is so far passed completely s.mir, am therefore delighted with your advice.

Regards
Christian



Antwort von soahC:

Clearly 64 bit! Otherwise, your 4Gb Ram kicked Money. Only 64 bit operating systems support more s.3, 5 GB Ram



Antwort von immanuelkant:

yes, and no fear of Vista64. Is absolutely stable. Work with it since 12/07 with no problems.
The problem with XP64 driver is also guaranteed greater than for Vista64 ...



Antwort von KrischanDO:

"immanuelkant" wrote:
yes, and no fear of Vista64. Is absolutely stable. Work with it since 12/07 with no problems.
The problem with XP64 driver is also guaranteed greater than for Vista64 ...


And what makes the whole software (Photoshop, Illustrator, Star Money, Thunderbird and Co), where it can run on Vista 64?

Regards
Christian



Antwort von soahC:

Sect what to do? Properly take advantage of 64bit support in case. And if does not run most software still



Antwort von KrischanDO:

"soahC" wrote:
Sect what to do? Properly take advantage of 64bit support in case. And if does not run most software still


Moin,
it is unfortunately not so simple. For example, DB Dialog (German bank online banking) does not support according to Vista, Star Money 6.0, only on 32bit, StarMoney Pro on 64bit.
The banking, I could shift again synonymous notebook, but the rest of the graphics and image editing stuff needs to run halt.
For PS CS2, there are different indications CS3 should run their full support to CS4 ...

Since my PC more and more zickt, I'll probably order times the 64bit box - called the adventure ...

regards
Christian



Antwort von Daigoro:

"soahC" wrote:
Sect what to do? Properly take advantage of 64bit support in case. And if does not run most software still


So run, support and benefit from it because, unfortunately, are sometimes very different stories.
Is not enough, neither of 64bit software still of more than one nucleus (or 2), nor of benefit for more than than 2 GB of RAM really noticeable - you have to decide in individual cases for each program, how useful / important is someting one.
As we like to achieve more work time with the same result.

If the entire hardware and software costs only operates to affect more than one concurrent program to have better performance that is synonymous active, eg a secondary computer (one for cutting,) a rendering, the man with enough power already well under 400 euros zusammenbekommt , ne value of deliberation. (but synonymous hangs from the back of the software used - if ne second license which is more expensive than all the hardware installed, you need to) stop making as much as possible on a box.



Antwort von kolesia:

I need a PC mainly for DV editing and Image editing. Office work will be done there, synonymous. I have asked myself the following components together. Could you approve such a system for DV editing?

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz boxed
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R, R because 2xeSATA II ports
CPU fan Noctua NH-U 12P, 19.8 dB, 92.3 m3 / h, 126x158x95
Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR2-800 kit, 2x2GB PC6400 CL 5
Chieftec Mesh Series CH-01B-B-SL OP
Casing and rear fan 120x120x25 Scythe S-Flex 1200, 20.1 db, 83.2 m3 / h
Housing front and side fan 92x92x25 Arctic AF9225PWM 10-24,5 db, 57,7 m3 / h
ATX power supply BE Quiet! Dark Power Pro P7 550Watt, with cable management
ASUS EN9600GT SILENT/HTDI/512M NVIDIA 9600GT, PCI-Express
2x WD Caviar 640GB, SATA II, WD6400AAKS
DVD-ROM LG GDR - H20N S-ATA Black Bulk
DVD Burners LG GH20N bulk schwarz
3.5 "floppy card reader included - TEAC # CA-200K-00, with floppy
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit OEM / with Windows XP 32bit / parallel installation

I currently Magix VDL 2007/2008 pros, but am not thrilled



Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hi,
now here is the new box, with a few initial problems synonymous anything goes. StarMoney must, for example in its own directory under: C will be installed in x86 ... it does not work.
The rest was fine, with the cut end of October it will seriously when I was on the video journalism workshop.

Here, once the details:

Case Chieftec Mesh BigTower, black 1
Dark Power Pro 450W PSU beQuiet + 1
Housing-Fan 120 * 120 Rasurbo + 1
ASUS 775 P5Q P45 ATX - GLN +1394 + SATA2R F + 1
Intel CPU CORE 2 DUO E6850 2x3GHZ + 1
Intel 775 CPU Cooler Freezer 7 Pro + 1
PC800 DDR2 4GB Kit 2 * 2GB XMS2-6400 Corsa + 2
S-ATA2 160GB Samsung, 7200, 8MB + 1
S-ATA2 750GB Samsung 7200rpm 32MB F1 + 2
Samsung DVD Writer 20x Dual Black SATA
PCX 512MB Nvidia 8800GT
Interface FireWire IEEE 1394, PCI 3PORT
24in1 USB Card Reader int. 3 stop
MS Windows Vista Business 64-bit

The things might be quieter, but it is okay.

Regards
Christian



Antwort von kolesia:

I wanted to take the WD disks, because of speed. Why did you put samsung if they're slower?



Antwort von Daigoro:

The Samsung Spinpoint F1 with 330GB Platter (ie 320s, 640s and 1TB) are the fastest performing s.Markt plates 7200.
Expensive) fast (and are essential because only the Velociraptor (synonymous make sense only in the raid as a F1 raid with the small plates and about 80 euro kost ne schlaegt single Raptor).

Who a wants to build a cheap and fast RAID Sytem (> 150Mbyte / s) or looking for a fast system disk (~ 90MByte / s for the single disk) comes drumrum not.



Antwort von kolesia:

just as quickly, the WD are synonymous. Should be minimal and louder.

http://www.pcwelt.de/start/computer/festplatte_storage/tests/170166/western_digital_caviar_se16_wd6400aaks/

With Samsung, I have read several failures, so I moved away from Samsung
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Antwort von Daigoro:

"kolesia" wrote:
just as quickly, the WD are synonymous. Should be minimal and louder.


Almost as quickly. Test winner, the F1.
The 'small' 320s kost 40 euro street price is even nen tick faster and shares the other good qualities.
The 640s is somewhere in between - for 60 euros street price is a good GB / cent ratio.

Amazing flat less the differences between themselves but the gain in performance opposite 1-2 years old SATA2. Mark is already in the normal operation.



Antwort von KrischanDO:

"kolesia" wrote:
I wanted to take the WD disks, because of speed. Why did you put samsung if they're slower?


I'm at the dealer, who for years has supplied the Fachhochschule Dortmund and configured to our son for a cheap gaming PC. Whom I said: I need a box with 8 MB RAM, Graphics for EBV and DV editing, and two thick plates, one for images, one for video, and one with Firewire card reader.
Then I looked over the offer, which was okay and I nodded.

Very professional approach, already clear. ;-)
But will my video Schnippelei fail because the plates are a few% slower?
Then there are two purely as RAID and ready.

Regards
Christian



Antwort von nhb:

Hello dear people,

hardwaretechnisch I'm quite a noob, but I stand before the zuzulegen decision myself a new pc / mac and need your help.

since 4 years I'll fight with 512MB RAM, 1.2 Ghz, and some rum vga card and now have the snout full.

I have about 700 euros.
I thought:

Processor 2.0 GHz G5
L2 cache 512K
667 MHz frontside bus
512 MB of RAM, supports up to 2 GB
ATI Radeon 9600 graphics card with 128 MB DDR SDRAM
Hard Drive 250GB Serial ATA, 7200 rpm.
Optical drive 8 x SuperDrive
Screen 20 "LCD, maximum resolution: 1680 x 1050

FireWire / USB Two FireWire 400 / Three USB 2.0 connections s.Computer, two USB 2.0 connections s.der Keyboard

Video mini-VGA output with support for S-Video - and composite video connections via adapter separately available

Networking 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet integrated
Wireless communication AirPort Extreme (802.11n), Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)

Audio Built-in stereo speakers, microphone, optical digital audio input

Hardware accessories Apple Keyboard and Apple Mouse
System software pre-installed Mac OS X 10.4

or as
s.dieses falls

http://www.arlt.com/oxid.php/sid/0995c9688d9e5825b158e53dfb058b31/cl/details/cnid/os12d0c7be63.59293/anid/3090168

edit:
It is provided solely dv-cut and work with adobe premiere, encore, and Reuters

a rat, I would be very happy

With kind regards

nhb



Antwort von klaas:

I consider myself still zuzulegen Htte nen power pc ...
CS3 had found on my IntelMac and the perfomance semi ... for adobe krams I will remain on basic pc ...

gruß, klaas.



Antwort von PowerMac:

DV is going well on a G5. But better than FCE Final Cut Pro or Premiere. Premiere ere is only on Intel-based Macs. Basically: a Mac mini is faster than the G5. Intel Macs are the future.



Antwort von Tristanactor:

what do you think of this? (; synonymous of Arlt)

Powerful AMD ® Athlon 64 X2 4850 with 2 x 2.50 GHz
4096MB RAM
500GB S-ATA 2 hard drive
ATI Radeon HD 3200 (; onboard)
20x DVD Multi-Format Double Layer Burner
FireWire
34-in-1 card reader
including mouse & keyboard

XP or Vista

Greeting
Tristan


"btsroller" wrote:
So I hope I'm really landed here ....

I have to buy myself a new computer to cut and restructure of the www.arlt.com a bit.

HERE THE COMPUTERS SOLD AS IS:

http://www.arlt.com/...

I'm going to the 2 gb ram where already there and sell themselves with 8 gb (; replaced 4 times per 2gb riegel).

then Windows XP Professional 64-bit version

nen new 21 zoller (; has not been decided which one)



'm still thinking whether I should get this hdd:
http://www.arlt.com/...



The wars of me

What do you think??

CRITICISM FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR DESIRABLE

Note from moderator: As previously mentioned, we can shorten links via [url] statement. Just try it.




Antwort von Movie-Peter:

Hi,

since this topic already exists, but the last entry dates back a few days, I ask for your experience and the inclusion of any currently well harmonizing PC system.
I want to miss my old PC system is an upgrade for AVCHD editing.

It may still have a system with Intel Core 2 Quad 3.00GHz to be 4x.

It is important for me that harmonize chip, motherboard, RAM and graphics card together well!

Thanks
Gruß Peter



Antwort von Die Talla:

What kind of DV editing software you want to work?



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

"The Talla" wrote:
What kind of DV editing software you want to work?


Hi,

currently I have Cyberlink PD7 ... but I am not yet sold on this Progam.
So far, no DV editing with M2TS files to carry out, since I currently lack the computing power. But for the reconversion of M2TS HD MPEG-2, he needs a 6.6 GB of approximately 8h. ;-)



Antwort von Die Talla:

I want me a new DV editing software and buy a new PC.
What should I buy a PC if I want to work quickly with campus Edius 5?



Antwort von derhaxn:

hi, this thread is the time time we revived. So I'm just about synonymous me to go up a new PC. it is mainly for videoschnitt (; AVCHD) / photoshop use etc. but probably sometimes synonymous to zocken ...
Although not really know me well, got me but for various test sites once they rausgesucht components for the PC:

Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70, 790FX (; dual PC3-10667U DDR3)
Processor: AMD Phenom X4 955 II BE
GraKa: Sapphire Toxic Radeon HD 4890
RAM: Kingston HyperX DIMM Kit 4GB PC3

All would probably cost about 600 euro, while for power supply and housing synonymous least 100 more to come ...

would be very happy to hear your views and possible opinion verbesserungsvorschläge may no longer be interpreted as a halt about 800 euro.
Thanks in advance jochen



Antwort von cinilux:

Hello, I read the articles straight through me, my question (internal) has not yet been clearly answered. This reads: If a RAID system consisting of 2 plates sufficient to capture uncompressed 4:2:2 HD-SDI signal? This figure is up nearly 200MB / s. And how do I transfer s.besten the data? Special PC Card?



Antwort von Daigoro:

"cinilux" wrote:
Hello, I read the articles straight through me, my question (internal) has not yet been clearly answered. This reads: If a RAID system consisting of 2 plates sufficient to capture uncompressed 4:2:2 HD-SDI signal? This figure is up nearly 200MB / s. And how do I transfer s.besten the data? Special PC Card?


The question is far too unspecific to be clearly answered.

How about "is a car coming fast enough to of Frankfurt to Cologne in one hour?

The same non-specific answer: in general it is difficult to a 'cheap RAID' the consistently> 200 MB / s throughput creates build and comes mainly on the technology used and the budget to.



Antwort von cinilux:

If one of a SonyPMW-EX1 proceeds, with 720p 50fps which a person receives before a green screen. It no longer than 10 sec. s.Stück. How can specialize even next?

EDIT: The RAID system is not built ...



Antwort von PowerMac:

"cinilux" wrote:
Hello, I read the articles straight through me, my question (internal) has not yet been clearly answered. This reads: If a RAID system consisting of 2 plates sufficient to capture uncompressed 4:2:2 HD-SDI signal? This figure is up nearly 200MB / s. And how do I transfer s.besten the data? Special PC Card?


Decklink Intensity Pro via HDMI s.Mac Pro with Pro Res 422 on a normal plate.



Antwort von cinilux:

"PowerMac" wrote:

Decklink Intensity Pro via HDMI s.Mac Pro with Pro Res 422 on a normal plate.


Thank you! Just reading about ProRes 422, there's something of 220 Mbit mentioned. That would be with a compression, right? What and how is there komptimiert? The eignetlich it would indeed be 1.4 gigabits.



Antwort von cinilux:

I've just got the idea to equip your PC with as much RAM and set up a RAM drive. Several seconds so that recording in the field of Gb would be possible. Should be even though only 20 seconds, I would have taken it. RAM is 100 times faster than any hard drive.

16 GB of RAM, of which 14 could be verwednet for a RAM drive. about 1 minute recording is possible.



Antwort von cinilux:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Decklink Intensity Pro via HDMI


This raises the question of how to transfer an SDI output to an HDMI input can?




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