Frage von Zoembel:
Hello,
I consider myself a new camera to buy, but I am totally undecided as to what it should be for now. I hesitate, as shown in the subject line, between two models, the Canon XL 2 and the XM2. Of course, it may not synonymous quite another to be another model of Manufacturers, the two have just come out and her standing on the shortlist. With the XL2 actually goes beyond the set price of my frame, I wanted to spend about 2000 to 2500 ¬.
The camera is mainly used to shoot documentaries. It should further be appropriate to bring one or the other Amatuerfilm on tape too. :-D Currently, we use / I (eg as part of supervisions 2 Panasonic NV-GS 300), furthermore I have me a NV-GS 27 increased to rumschleppen permanent.
Now we want (some fellow students and friends) a "semi-documentary" film shoot, and ask ourselves, of course, the question of the adequacy of the existing cameras to ...
Available 2 Panasonic NV-1 NV-GS 300 and GS 500 + no life camera NV-GS27
+ Div old analog cameras ...
Is it possible to rotate with the existing cameras to Amatuerfilmchen halfway usable?
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Which Camera in the price range 2000 - 2500 Euro can you recommend for me? (I would in any case 'ne new XL2 and XM2 ... ne or totally different?)
Thanks and greetings
Torben
Antwort von schnittweise:
Even though I am of the opinion that at least the NV-GS 500 can keep up pretty well, I would suggest you SonyVX 2100th
Antwort von schnittweise:
I think of the image quality (the NV-GS 500)
Antwort von Zoembel1:
What then are the advantages of SonyVX 2100 compared to the Canons of caught my eye?
If the Panasonic NV-GS can keep up with the picture quality, then I might even buy a so synonymous, or is not really suitable for our project?
Greeting
Torben
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Antwort von PowerMac:
Ne used PD170 Micro and uncluttered with Tripod.
Or FX1 with enhanced sound.
Ne XM2 is synonymous. Which is synonymous better than the GS500.
Actually, you can take each of them:
DVX100, XL2, XM2, PD170, VX2100
Antwort von zan:
more likely the brand new panasonic dvx200 (which rejects prosieben)
Antwort von Markus:
... (the prosieben rejects) Why such a message is only of guests, is clear. ;-)
Very controversial discussion:
Antwort von zan:
I'm afraid ;-)
Antwort von zan:
Why such a message is only of guests, is clear. ;-)
I'm afraid so ;-)
Antwort von Zoembel1:
Ne used PD170 Micro and uncluttered with Tripod.
Or FX1 with enhanced sound.
Ne XM2 is synonymous. Which is synonymous better than the GS500.
Actually, you can take each of them:
DVX100, XL2, XM2, PD170, VX2100 Now I really can not decide. =) Which of the above cameras of thee have I s.längsten without need in nem year on, we 'ne new ones =)
Greeting
Torben
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Antwort von Phyro-Mane:
Let's put it this way: Even today you can do with Super8 cameras beautiful films of 1975;)
They are not all bad, actually occurs nurnoch on details.
The XM2 is ne good, very solid Cam, with whom I have very good experiences made. but that 16:9 looks kind of strange, I think, but that can still be corrected in the postpro. No XLR connector.
The XL2 there's a larger caliber, in the truest sense of the word.
Extremely good and balanced images, unfortunately sometimes s.schwächeln in the dark in my opinion.
After all, has the possibility of such lenses and so.
The DVX100 is synonymous a very good cam, in the format of the XM2, and has XLR to do so. But expensive.
Ultimately, these cams are equal, because a normal user can not identify any differences s.TV will expose the one or the other as "bad".
Big jumps are no-longer be synonymous, as is now actually on the development of HDV camcorders is concentrated.
Now I would reach for XM2, because of the good and the pleasant Picture Size.
But überlegs you whether you might not want to grow ne FX1, so you have more fun with resolution.
With PAL certainly the next few years will not be replaced.
Antwort von Markus:
Now I would resort to the XM2, because of the good and the pleasant Picture Size ... I would resort to the VX2100, because of the even better picture, the significantly faster auto focus and the overall very reliable automatics. ;-)
The XL2 is due to the design and top-heaviness of the MUs only suitable for organized shoots with Tripod.
HDV is me because of the high compression and the associated disadvantages (artifacts, drop-outs) very unsympatisch. Especially since the difference between SD and HDV in PAL (B / G)-countries are not soooo big is like in NTSC U.S., which already sees on a normal Television "significant differences. ;-)
Antwort von Phyro-Mane:
Camera handling is apparently synonymous matter of taste;)
I found the XM2 ago from feeling very good, the VX2100 does not have me as promised.
While one can certainly arrange well with two cameras.
To break HDV: Without a lengthy discussion from the fence to try to gabs ja (often enough): HDV has the advantage (when it comes to effects) of the greater detail richness, which has at times such as keyen fewer problems. Or you can simply press synonymous videos to movies, for example, what is advertising / films in the movies interesting.
But I'm filming in PAL and it would still synonymous for a long time, Alsom UsSt not think I'd be the hardcore-HDVler;)
Antwort von Markus:
... which has at times such as keyen fewer problems. Chromakey and instead Lumakey the world is synonymous with IT in order. ;-)
Antwort von zan:
Let's put it this way: Even today you can do with Super8 cameras beautiful films of 1975;) Ha ne super 8 camera, I still fly synonymous here, then I do the neh m;)
They are not all bad, actually occurs nurnoch on details.
That is exactly the point, I do not really on what details should I look for ...
The XM2 is ne good, very solid Cam, with whom I have very good experiences made. but that 16:9 looks kind of weird ...
That would, for example, something I could do without, because we / I take only had in mind anyway 4:3. With a camera with 16:9 CCD would of course be synonymous not to be despised, but unfortunately most have only high-priced Euros to ...
No XLR connector.
This is the next point =) I absolutely need an XLR connector or is it enough if I can connect a micro over a jack with the Camera?
AFAIR XM 2 offers the possibility of an external Micro join s.einen jack.
The XL2 there's a larger caliber, in the truest sense of the word.
Extremely good and balanced images, unfortunately sometimes s.schwächeln in the dark in my opinion.
After all, has the possibility of such lenses and so.
large caliber fürn big purse;) This Camera I've made in my wish list at the back;)
So, I really would have risen only if there had been no viable alternative =)
The DVX100 is synonymous a very good cam, in the format of the XM2, and has XLR to do so. But expensive.
Is this price OK? http://www.mpec-gmbh.de/_detailpage/kameras/camcorder/1447/panasonic_ag-dvx100+production+kit+-+jetzt+wieder+verf%DCgbar+!. Html
(is it ever be the same cam?)
Now I would reach for XM2, because of the good and the pleasant Picture Size.
But überlegs you whether you might not want to grow ne FX1, so you have more fun with resolution.
I think so already, I'll take just a s.besten of any Manufacturer,) I would not have thought that the camera purchase would be so difficult ...
Greeting
Torben
Antwort von Markus:
That would, for example, something I could do without, because we / I take only had in mind anyway 4:3. With a camera with 16:9 CCD would of course not synonymous to despise ... The VX2100 is a 4:3-camcorder but synonymous 16:9 looks passable.
... I absolutely need an XLR connector or is it enough if I can connect a micro over a jack with the Camera? As long as you only a directional microphone directly onto the camera, the route of transmission plays no role. Only with long cables (> 3 m) XLR (ie a symmetrical signal routing) interesting.
Learn More:
3.5mm jack extension - problem: Hum (local links)
Is this price OK? http://www.mpec-gmbh.de/_detailpage/kameras/camcorder/1447/panasonic_ag-dvx100+production+kit+-+jetzt+wieder+verf%DCgbar+!. Html
(is it ever be the same cam?) From the DVX100, there are several models that differ by the subsequent identification. The device is called at MPEC
DVX100-BE. That difference is crucial) to be (= old or new model. So research carefully before you decide for this camcorder.
I think so already, I'll take just a s.besten Manufacturer of all;) Very good idea! Then you can try at home all alone and put the rest of the camcorder as a reserve in the closet. ;-)
Antwort von Zoembel:
As long as you only a directional microphone directly onto the camera, the route of transmission plays no role. Only with long cables (> 3 m) XLR (ie a symmetrical signal routing) interesting.
Learn More:
3.5mm jack extension - problem: Hum (local links)
It seems that I probably still need a camera with XLR connector. So slowly developed the camera choice really a disaster =)
From the DVX100, there are several models that differ by the subsequent identification. The device is called at MPEC DVX100-BE. That difference is crucial) to be (= old or new model. So research carefully before you decide for this camcorder.
My research has shown that this is the new model, but I do not really know yet whether the price is right. On each of my site are found other Prices like these actually come about - huge in my eyes - price differences?
At Panasonic Broadcast I find not even an EIA. =)
Very good idea! Then you can try at home all alone and put the rest of the camcorder as a reserve in the closet. ;-) My bank account has me fairly quickly dissuaded of that idea. ;)
Now I am looking for a dealer with shop in my neighborhood, but I somehow do not find. I think I have the cameras (just try out the spot, at least I should have it once held in the hand)
:-D So if anyone knows a deal with shop in Kaiserslautern or in the vicinity, let him tell me please, where it is found. : D
Thanks and greetings
Torben
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Antwort von Markus:
It seems that I probably still need a camera with XLR connector. Or a camcorder with this unbalanced jack input and an XLR adapter (for example, of
BeachTek). Welche Lösung die bessere ist, hängt u.s.davon ab, wie oft Du with zusätzlichen Mikrofonen arbeiten wirst.
I.d.R. ist ein Camcorders, der with eigenen XLR -Eingängen daherkommt, unterm Strich teurer als ein Consumermodell with zusätzlichem XLR -Adapters. Dafür ist der Bedienkomfort bei einem vollständig ausgestatteten Gerät höher, wobei professionellere Modelle à la PD170 oder DVX100 neben den XLR -Anschlüssen für den Sound natürlich synonymous noch andere Funktionen mitbringen.
BeachTek). Welche Lösung die bessere ist, hängt u.s.davon ab, wie oft Du with zusätzlichen Mikrofonen arbeiten wirst.
I.d.R. ist ein Camcorders, der with eigenen XLR -Eingängen daherkommt, unterm Strich teurer als ein Consumermodell with zusätzlichem XLR -Adapters. Dafür ist der Bedienkomfort bei einem vollständig ausgestatteten Gerät höher, wobei professionellere Modelle à la PD170 oder DVX100 neben den XLR -Anschlüssen für den Sound natürlich synonymous noch andere Funktionen mitbringen.
BeachTek). Welche Lösung die bessere ist, hängt u.s.davon ab, wie oft Du with zusätzlichen Mikrofonen arbeiten wirst.
I.d.R. ist ein Camcorders, der with eigenen XLR -Eingängen daherkommt, unterm Strich teurer als ein Consumermodell with zusätzlichem XLR -Adapters. Dafür ist der Bedienkomfort bei einem vollständig ausgestatteten Gerät höher, wobei professionellere Modelle à la PD170 oder DVX100 neben den XLR -Anschlüssen für den Sound natürlich synonymous noch andere Funktionen mitbringen.
