Frage von BillBo:
Hello Forum.
I have committed myself a mini-DV Cam zuzulegen of Panasonic.
My favorite was the NV-GS 300 EC. As it is now Panasonic, the program has taken, I can not quite decide.
What's left are only the following models:
NV-GS 180
they speak for the very good facilities, relatively cheaper price.
Not so good Image Stabilization.
NV-GS 230
quite identical with the 180er but some usHeadphones Connections Micro-and are deleted.
NV-GS 320
I thought of this already, it will (the successor to the 300)
but no DV input, no microphone jack, no headphone jack
NV-GS 500
Top model, with pretty much all the connections, you probably need someday. At least then you have the connections - it is safe. This model obviously has its price.
The Forum synonymous, I have already searched several times, but now since there are new models, I am not quite so helpful.
What do I do with the Cam.
I plan my moped tours get with moving pictures. Then cut (very important) and to burn. Since there is no mini-DV players are probably only remains for me the burn, so I may someday perform, right?
Possibly. I would like to host sporting events (not Hall).
In some tests we read that the Image Stabilization of the 180er is not as reliable. How do I imagine. Picture wobbles then, can the Cam no point in recording merken?
Now a lay question.
For what do I need an AV Ein-/Output and an S-Video Ein-/Output? I think the S video is to connect s.einen screen. The sound runs over AV, right?
Actually I tend to 180er. Because of the many connections. But the Image Stabilization gives me remember. Or the 500s. This has pretty much everything. But with 900 Euros quite expensive.
What do you. Is the 180er OK, or rather the 500s? There are certainly some readers in possession of these Cam. The new cams are already almost because of the lack of connections out. Or I am in favor of the New. So just a few lines of type. Wäre echt nett. So slowly, it is no longer endure.
Thank you
Antwort von BillBo:
State of affairs here in the forum of my request.
43 users have read and None has info on my thread.
Schade ....
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Even more the 500 ladtet probably almost double.
But I have them available at the moment because I have a few tapes should copy, and can say - is not bad.
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Antwort von Bernd E.:
ladtet probably almost double. What do you mean with "ladtet"?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Blind write and film on the keys, because then "ladtet" rather than cost.
it's what quizmaster
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Antwort von tomS:
The new have much more to it. You seem to a good Image Stabilization to lay. Where sport and motorcycling so synonymous important.
So I can at the other 500s only connect. you must stop finding a compromise.
S-VHS is responsible for building, the rest goes AVI, lying as you correctly.
Ich hab noch ne of old Panasonic NV DA1EG and in November in Darmstadt was a house show. Since I had Situated ne 500s to test. ein geiles device.
Alo beiß in sour apple and get them to you. Afterwards, if you save s.der wrong place, ärgerst you.
If you still have doubts, you should be in a shop! not Media Markt and Saturn! times wonder whether they can borrow. Then test times.
Antwort von ami842:
Synonymous would recommend the 500 or if you are eighth on the price, look for a 400, sometimes with little maturity to get ...
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Non-s-VHS for the picture but is USB (cable, and program description is attached).
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Antwort von Jan:
Hello Billbo,
with the new Panasonic 2007 models is a kind of quiz, because the data itself in Panasonic.de not 100% agree.
auslaufmodell-panasonic-nv-gs300eg s Among the 2006 models, we have plenty already written, which models the filmmaker brings more.
Well anyway I answer a few questions.
The test of the stabilization of the GS 180 with some users / magazines was probably so bad because the 16 / 9 mode have filmed, and there is the area of the CCD 's needs and the stabilizer is auto disabled.
At 4 / 3 is the stabilizer ok, to be improved so as opposed to Canon MVX 450 / 460 and SonyHC 44 / 46, I believe, but only for restless hand and in the greater zoom range visible. If the camcorder is easy with 2 hands - one in the wrist strap, a s.LCD can reach as much.
The S-Video separates the luminance signals in normal TVs (Mark and I reported yesterday), the difference is very small, but significantly s.neue technology visible. The GS 180 has the S-video port, s.der GS 280 even the S-video cable included.
The sound, of course with extra RCA transferred as S-video only transfers image signals.
The GS 280 has it that even the optical stabilizer, particularly in low light, it is clearly superior to the Leica Lens (now I would not overestimate), the flash for the photos, the better photos 3.1 million pixels, the better-supplied Battery CGA DU 12, an internal lens cap, GS 300 in addition to digital input DV In.
When the snooze light produced synonymous GS 280 a brighter & less noisy picture.
The GS 500 is then the ultimate in class, but many functions are not what each bring the Verbesserenungen are like the larger CCD, the better light of f 1.6, the 4 million pixels for still image, the 12x zoom, focus ring, manual Tonaussteuerung the Cinema Cinema, which supplied cable remote control, the bigger you Battery CGA 14 and the active accessory shoe.
Actually, not so hard - what you want to spend, and what features you really need.
About the GS 230 & 320 external I only on receipt of the Camera.
And to borrow, that is theoretically in the first 14 days always do. Only then will the seller (like me) the camera to see, lack of accessories, second hand Camera & scratched, missing cardboard. This can then be used to withdraw or not withdraw money business with the loss for you.
There are not synonymous for so many lending Kameas, if only in the prosumer and professional field. A real minus for the business lender, the customer must be synonymous to pay a fat deposit.
VG
Jan
Antwort von BillBo:
S.alle Thank you for the informative and witty opinions of you.
What should I say the 280er and the 300 are as good as no longer to get. Only with engl. Menusprache - but since I do not feel like it.
@ Jan
Thank you for your detailed opinion.
You write you are the seller in a "photo shop". Maybe even from / in Darmstadt. I come from synonymous DA. There are really only two major "Photo business" (no media market, or similar.). Perhaps we have already faced ....
Now back to my problem. "
Since my favorite, the "300" for lack of offers out of the race, I tend synonymous to 500s. I have a very good offer from the www for under 850, -. New and with a German menu. Have today received the confirmation. I think I will strike ....
I will inform you.
Again many thanks for your information.
Greeting
BillBo
Antwort von BillBo:
So, I have seriously made.
I have just had the NV GS-500 ordered.
With a bit of accessories, etc.
Before me, a model goes through the cloth.
Thank you for your "Help".
Sign me up again when they arrived.
Antwort von sunny6006:
Hey
I am convinced that you are with the GS5oo'll be very satisfied.
This Camera vereinbahrt every performance which Panasonic MiniDV range can accommodate :-)
3CCD very important and in all test and evaluation megapixel designs far superior,
the subtleties and color combined with the Leica lens, with an optimum optical image stabilization
and true 16:9 recording
pixel count is 1,070,000 for 3 x CCD 1 / 4, 7 "size - with optical image stabilizer - ideal für'n Konsumerkamera
sowei the lens size [43mm filter diameter] is impressive
Even photo racks are acceptable
From handling, it is pleasant to use and size / weight are very portable, and safe in a free hand to lead. WW shots.
These are some advantages which are not synonymous, the GS320 will offer.
The GS 180 is a total of simple equipment and is supported by the GS230 replaces 3CCD beginners - but it is true Konsuerklasse, not necessarily for really ambitious.
I think MiniDV but will again in what Pries adapt, especially since HD systems in the Konsumerklassen now the major role to play. Prices for this are probably s.1000 ¬, thus are "standard" systems may be cheaper.
I am with the quality MiniDV drove very well and think it is a mature system, which especially in the editing offers many possibilities.
I was too early to decide - für'n GS 250, but would still like the GS500, have already several times with the work may be.
Bye desch
Antwort von BillBo:
Synonymous Thank you, desch.
I am on it right already.
Finally tense time of the search over.
The quality and the equipment is probably for my purposes thick enough. Now I am still Batteries and order tapes.
And then try to go.
Greeting
BillBo
Antwort von Eva Maier:
But hopefully Panasonic tapes
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Antwort von BillBo:
Since I obviously synonymous Forum durchstöbert.
Mitbestellt I have the tapes Panasonic AY-DVM 60YE - 3 pieces.
EUR 5.90 per piece. But I am on about if I was not this PANASONIC AY-DVM 63 PQ as the "main band" will use.
Because there was something in the forum to read. Some say it is synonymous satisfy the favorable tapes. But I think that there are already differences.
Naja, mal schauen. First, I have even three tapes.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Actually, yes it is the band does not change locations.
My experience:
Normally I go with Panasonic,
TDK changed to - head
On Sonygewechselt - head
Since everyone must bring his camera when he was of me wants to have a copy.
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Antwort von Jan:
@ Jan
Thank you for your detailed opinion.
You write you are the seller in a "photo shop". Maybe even from / in Darmstadt. I come from synonymous DA. There are really only two major "Photo business" (no media market, or similar.). Perhaps we have already faced ....
I wanted this I deliberately did not talk after Toms aufpauschen, times hit on my user profile, then where I work.
PS. I was in the shop synonymous times - like half of my department in the store ...
Yes love the tapes, which is a real religious war. A very good film which I guess uses for its SonyDSR Premium Sony PD 170 or Fuji DVC 60 he - that is quite favorable for the cassettes Prosumerkamera.
Eva Maier but really right, you should be very careful with many of his band go places.
VG
Jan
Antwort von BillBo:
The man, the tapes should not change, I have through various forum posts have noticed. Have I not synonymous. Only the vendor where I bought the Cam, had only the very simple and Panasonic tapes of just the Panasonic AY-DVM 60YE-tapes, which I bought. The tapes with the description PANASONIC AY-DVM 63 PQ run for a few suppliers tapes for the professional field. Strangely, they are a good bit cheaper than the AY-DVM 60YE.
Well, at least, I would stick with the Panasonic tapes.
You again many thanks for all the info on my topic and synonymous to many, many other tips in the forum.
Best Regards BillBo
PS: I can hardly wait ....
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Since I have to ask stupid times where lives because your service provider?
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Antwort von BillBo:
Why ask stupid?
Is it a normal issue.
And here, a normal response.
My supplier / vendor has its headquarters in Lueneburg.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Was just a question - because the 63PQ here are more expensive than the 60YE
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Antwort von BillBo:
Hi Eva,
of providers with whom I have ordered the Cam,
has only offered 60YE - EUR 5.90 for the piece.
Panasonic Ussynonymous the simple version.
The 63 PQ, there's somewhere close to EUR 4, - in the Net.
But now 12 of the tapes 60YE series with another provider ordered.
Then I took a total of 15 tapes of 60YE series.
That should be just long. Particularly for the Cams Panasonic 3CCD chip with just these tapes suggests.
Well, they are not bad to be.
My motto is almost always
use the accessories / tools of the main provider.
Here is Panasonic Cam synonymous and therefore the tapes.
Am I not badly.
Greeting BillBo
Antwort von Eva Maier:
The suits already, you see.
OBB in here, sometimes there are 5 planets in the 60s to 9.95, the 63er I to 7.20 (units) seen (apparently this is where the watch something else.)
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Antwort von BillBo:
Hi Eva,
OBB stands for Upper Bavaria?
Psst already :-)
I like .....
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Indeed - in the good old days when there were no postal codes were meant the Munich / OBB (stamp collectors know this)
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Antwort von BillBo:
But I am not a stamp collector :-)
Collective many other things ...
