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Frage von Colo:


Hello,

How recently have ever written, I am now in my entire HD converting equipment. The PC upgrade is realized, now I want a new TV with HDMI growth.
Since I have a Panasonic flat screen (without HDMI) and so had a whole was satisfied, I wanted to stay with the brand and buy my next plasma: TH 42 PZ 85 E. In various forums whose image is being praised.
My previous Pana, however, has an annoying flaw Filmer: The screen cuts the (currently on DVD) which played a very strong material. When the photo is compensable, as I have in my image editing program (after pruning to 16:9) via batch mode a black border around each Still Image add. For videos, this is not possible (or I have never succeeded - there's a trick?), So the screen much of the strikingly original formats cuts. While you can shoot on the set of this phenomenon (synonymous with my reflex I photograph with a widescreen look to the photos later on TV format to trim) but have now learned that the TVs of Panasonic probably particularly strong crop.
Has anyone similar experiences? What TV do you use? Is there a trick to videos with one fringe order, so that when the TV projection the original size of the film is to be seen? MfG Colo.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

With 'nem Panasonic plasma do you ever not do anything wrong. I would, however, a Model-FullHD growth. The overscan can s.den current models off. For details synonymous times diese, this

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Antwort von Colo:

Thanks for the links, which are quite interesting.
PS: Of course, only a Full HD in question, since I have HD movies.
Greeting Colo.

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Antwort von darg:

Purchase no plasma. The are two to three years across. LCD are durable.
With me here in the U.S., plasma TVs, the best customers in the repair.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"shown" wrote: The are two to three years across.
Oh, Gottel ne ...

Current plasma screens are LCDs in terms of durability are no longer inferior. Power supplies can be synonymous in LCDs abrauchen, loose contacts on all TV types. If not, the goggle-box (which in Amiland be the case may be) the whole day running, it is probably the case. As of itself, you know, unfortunately, only when the device has at home ...

I know enough people, whose three-year-old plasma runs flawlessly. So a flat rate so I can not understand your statement.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Purchase no plasma. The are two to three years across. LCD are durable.
With me here in the U.S., plasma TVs, the best customers in the repair.


Genau so isses!
Plasma is an art tube revised its days are numbered anyway!
Current LCDs are actually nothing worse also cheaper, low-power end, environment-friendly, quiet, no stove mileage, easier to transport safety, with better PC to operate,
and the most important: no flicker!
Why are unlikely plasma monitors for PC use?

Quote: I know enough people, whose three-year-old plasma runs flawlessly. So a flat rate so I can not understand your statement.

I know enough people, whose 15-year-old tube runs flawlessly.
But that is no reason yet to buy a tube?
But synonymous to this Tehema holds:
Not everything you have is even better!
This is synonymous for brands and any other form of mass goods!
The overall product is better LCD already there nothing to shake synonymous when 1-2 years before many verfächter a plasma unterjubeln have it!
In 2-3 years, the manufacture of the plasma business to be unprofitable anyway so that we hardly plasma devices will find more!
The black levels of plasma are only marginal if any still exist so that the disadvantages of the surcharge is no longer worth!
Also in the LCD is much more research and development invested in a plasma device which is only a matter of time until the best of the best LCD in black plasma worth far outstrips nicth even if the instance should be!

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Zizi" wrote: Genau so isses!
Is it again a solid contribution Zizi? Sigh ...

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Is it again a solid contribution Zizi? Sigh ...
Looks like ...

Quote: Power supplies can be synonymous in LCDs abrauchen, loose contacts on all TV types
This is the main reason why you should not buy the LCD would be something of a rare plasma naturally happen because plasma draufsteht!
I think the disadvantages of a plasma have been listed ..
the benefits apart from the slightly better black level (if any) are unlikely to garnicht available!
¬ 80,000 and a screen with 3 meters in diameter has probably never bought into this forum!
So we are talking about but of average sizes up to 132cm!

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

Again, sigh ... and kopfschüttel ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Yes, a real contribution Zizi. Without content, but many exclamation.
Plasmas still have a much better black and better colors.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Yes, a real contribution Zizi. Without content, but many exclamation.
Plasmas still have a much better black and better colors.

This "lot", I doubt much!
Sure they have / besasen better black values.
But we assume the best of the best plasma and LCD, I think that 99% of the LCD seher Picture ascribe the better!
This confirms to me synonymous with a friend of Saturn in this department works with virtually all optical customers to decide for an LCD!
As I said the pile disadvantage against plasma!
I can on my Pioneer plasma does not 2 hours without a PS3 gaming
The eyes burn me the (flicker) and this unit cost 4000 ¬!
When an old Philips LCD FullHD go 5 hours without problems!
Because you can say whatever you want .. or why do you refrain from increasing the Manufacturer?
alone because of the toxic chemicals used in the manufacture of these boxes are, it is good that the sales figures drop dramatically!
Only the old standard TV picture, I find, the plasma is better .. I have the least impressive!
everything else is of snow yesterday!

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

Zizi, let it - with every word Your ignorance is obvious ...

Only a few hints:
It is in this discussion is not the best screen for gaming.

There are the big chains synonymous good seller - but they are in the minority.

Television judged a man not in the bright store, but in an area with relatively little light.

Continues ...

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: It is in this discussion is not the best screen for gaming.

There are the big chains synonymous good seller - but they are in the minority.

Television judged a man not in the bright store, but in an area with relatively little light.

Since you have absolutely right!
I would not for me anyway anwendungsberiech buying a plasma! The disadvantages are simply too big to me so much money to add scroll!
over 90% of customers are probably in my opinion!
Who of us two will probably be right?
I think this is not the 90% all have a television because he is buying inferior images like a plasma delivers!
Sager as simple as:
Money supply for LCDs simply a nicer / better picture!
Or tell me a 1000 ¬ the plasma with a gleichteuren LCD can keep up?
And for those few applications where the area's plasma has some advantages (te) I'm with an LCD as well unterwechs Now!

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Antwort von PowerMac:

I've ever been synonymous for a whole day television viewing. With HD material through a huge store and went everywhere connected and viewed, played around s.den settings. A friend of mine is specialist for television, one of the best-seller Loewe of Germany. Nor are plasma Television Picture by better, especially for movies in the dark.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Nor are plasma Television Picture by better, especially for movies in the dark.

Yes because I'll give you quite!
The question is how much, and whether that justifies the large extra charge!
and the big word is YET!
I always say a current LCD is poor with little more
its sophisticated techniques and contrast deinterlacer and is much cheaper, energy-efficient, non-flickering, etc etc ... !
For the Otto normalverbaucher a plasma is certainly not to recommend
if one really good picture at a good price to have!
Personally, I like plasma's Iene tube!
I picture flickers too extreme .. maybe because I'm sensitive but
if you have as much in front of the PC as I sit and just more accustomed to flicker-free images I find then a plasma (synonymous current devices) extremely störent!

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Antwort von frm:

Where you have the info that 90% of customers say that?
Mir wär synonymous scratch the LCD does a better picture?
It is okay to feel that you have and represent, but to beahaupten the 90% of humanity that says synonymous I think is questionable.

To dan Media Markt Saturn or personal, I say nothing, except that it seemed 15 years ago, a training for the staff there.

Look at times the Panasonic plasma device s.and tell me they have a bad picture and flicker.

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Antwort von Jürgen F.:

Hi Colo,

After long consideration, whether LCD or plasma - for me the criteria were similar - I am now - but more for the private sector - for a Pana TH 42 PZ 85E decided. And in stores for ¬ incl 1149th and auftellen?.
With Full HD, however, you should have at least one digital satellite receiver?. Cable or DVB-T can be forgotten.
The full program can be reached only with Blue Ray via HDMI.
Hab mir synonymous then equal to the BD 35 gegönnt. Klasse!
You can even test it synonymous. Dubbing you a few JPEG photos on an SD card, maybe a few test pictures of Burosch, s.in the card, perhaps the assessment dan easier. I am just wondering how much potential in my little Lumix-clippers slumbers.

Oh yes, over and underscan works only in the "16:9" mode.

Many greetings
Jürgen F.

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Antwort von Jogi:

Well, fact is the current LCDs (gehobeneren in the price range) have caught up. The differences between plasma and LCD technology are only marginal. I have a 3-year-old Panasonic plasma for some time and have a Sony LCD. I like the picture from the LCD but synonymous better. The real and only difference is the "black" but only when absolutely dark environment. At normal room lighting as they have the majority of the far-seen used (small lamp (s) is the "black" in my LCD's better. As plasma stain, I acknowledge, as the slightly darker picture for TV lighting ebend said. If the little screen in the brightness is regulated upwards now synonymous Picture the slack and the benefit of good black representation is to be interpreted. synonymous But the presentation of the colors like with the SonyLCD better. But this is my personal impression and by direct comparison of both systems.
Now, however, mention the synonymous of a FullHD LCD-Panal has and the plasma was only HD Ready. A "flicker" as mentioned above, I have none of the systems noted. In current plasma devices in FullHD technology may differ!

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Where you have the info that 90% of customers say that?

The sales figures say .. and up to the Panasonic actually only on the plasma are limited, there is no longer the manufacturer in this sector have invested great!
I expect hard times assume that everyone here so much plasma represented
own home and have never had a real have seen Comparison between 2 models fair!
In any case flickers in my eyes the latest Panasonic synonymous!
and the larger the image size so much the worse is that!
Tests are times of course .. you need not only directly in the Picture to see s.rand because the eye is more sensitive!
Of course you can be used so that both of the barely noticeable but I think it better not be a device flickers and is only marginally weaker in the black for much valuable cheaper!
For the eye is a quiet synonymous Picture much better .. represents you from your monitor s.Calculator about a plasma! How long it would probably last until the eye is fatigued or nearsightedness?
It has its reasons why the LCD technology is developed and man plasma is extinct!
Vorallem wei lPlasma little more profitable in the LCD prices!

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Antwort von Jogi:

The smaller plasma screens, the higher the production costs. This is why it does not deduce plasma under 37 "but it is possible to plasma screens in technology of several meters size to build.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Zizi" wrote: The question is how much, and whether that justifies the large extra charge!
What a surcharge? In the same image, at least the Panasonic plasma brands cheaper than LCDs - or similar. We are talking about each of FullHD models with comparable equipment.
"Zizi" wrote: and the big word is YET!
Do you think that plasma boys resting on their laurels? Look hier,"Zizi" wrote: hier,I say again and again hier,
Therefore, it will not work correctly.
hier,"Zizi" wrote: hier,a current LCD is hardly worse hier,
If you look in daylight, maybe.
hier,"Zizi" wrote: hier,contrast with its sophisticated techniques and deinterlacer and is much cheaper hier,
No - see above.
hier,"Zizi" wrote: hier,power-saving, hier,
Still - you guckst
hier.
"Zizi" wrote: hier.
no flicker hier.

In the 100-Hz operation of a plasma does so synonymous not as good as not. As a huge PC monitor, I would however take an LCD synonymous.
hier.
"Zizi" wrote: hier.
For the Otto normalverbaucher a plasma is certainly not recommended if you really good picture at a good price to have! hier.

Nonsense.
hier.
"Zizi" wrote: hier.
Personally, I like plasma's Iene tube! hier.

That's why they are better than LCD.
hier.
"Zizi" wrote: hier.
I picture flickers too extreme .. maybe because I'm sensitive but
if you have as much in front of the PC as I sit and just more accustomed to flicker-free images I find then a plasma (synonymous current devices) extremely störent
hier.

What do you think now? A Television? A screen for your console or a PC monitor? When TV is currently unbeaten in the plasma, for everything else is probably better on the LCD.
hier.
"Zizi" wrote: hier.
over 90% of customers are probably in my opinion! hier.

The interest probably does not. Anno dunnemals knew anyone who had eyes in your head that Betamax makes a better picture than VHS. Nevertheless, VHS was purchased. At the time he appeared, was the so-called IBM-PC synonymous a cucumber and competing products have been unsuccessful. Was also purchased because: IBM booth so drauf.

Buying decisions are seldom rational. The goggle comes to understand hier.
that the crate in a bright room buy, but then mostly in the (semi-) looks dark.

Otherwise, you know the saying: "eat shit! 60 million flies can not be wrong!"

PS: In German phrase comes between the end and not a whitespace character. And we must and should be synonymous times put a comma ...

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Antwort von frm:

I can say of me that I do not synonymous plasma than LCD possess. So your allegation is not true that all the talk of the plasma are in favor.
I she is from my video sicht. I want beautiful colors, good black level. The power of now synonymous not so dramatically higher in comparison a few years ago bothers me not at all synonymous. Whether he is now 50 n.oder 10, is synonymous to me no preference because I have him stand up again.
I can say of me that I have a buddy that has a LCD (120cm diagonal) and another where I gezockt have been synonymous with Panasonic Plasma (synonymous ca 120cm). My Conclusion is that the LVD is very good, but for me at the moment only a plasma in question because of the above points. The LCD makes a beautiful picture but I liked the plasma better. The best is the plasma is now affordable.

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Antwort von Colo:

Hello Jürgen F.,

Both of those devices you came with me for some time in the closer choice, since it in various forums got pretty good reviews. Meanwhile, I have already ordered them synonymous.
The restriction regarding the Overscan to me, since I anyway all the photos to the 16:9-format prune. Greeting Colo.

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Antwort von mann:

... here are the most important reason to oppose LCD: the shitty viewing angles - that is, when times times with three or four people sitting in front of the screen and the outside seated only half see.

That was the main reason I just (42 inches) of Samsung plasma for 555 Euros Latvians have fetched - you might just synonymous times of the Page hingucker and still see everything.

Consumes 380 Watt although, due to lack of fresh models, but the three extra euros in the year, whom the itch?

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