Frage von Jette:
Good day!
I am looking for a new camcorder
and would be pleased with your recommendations.
My camcorder should offer the following:
- Of course, good picture quality
- Recording to SD Card
- HD is not strictly necessary, since my television and my synonymous
DVD player does not play anyway, and I can run at
Compressing it down-consuming process would
- Good image quality synonymous with poor lighting conditions
- Providing enough optical zoom
-
Viewfinder - Extra connector for sound (XLR connector, or at least mini-jack)
Do you have a tip for me (up to about 600 euros)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
There are no cams to record on flash and not deliver HD - ok 320x240 and 640x480 but perhaps un intressant.
Take a new Canon or Sony HD Cam of the output records on Flash - you can still after editing in SD (DVD) - which is sometimes even recommended. (And does not take long synonymous)
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In the Canon HF models are called - to work with the card.
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In the price category, there are no cams have the XLR connections.
But there are XLR to TRS adapter.
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Visually, the cams should all between 30 and short 300 mm (KB) are stretching more than made up.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... There are no cams to record on flash and not deliver HD - ok 320x240 and 640x480 maybe ... Objection, your honor! At least the big four have all memory camcorder Manufacturer in the program used to record the normal standard resolution of 720x576.
Antwort von kalle70:
Look here at the top of the page, there is "Camcorder Comparison"
The Select the game and then click on "More Filters"
There you can then select all the features you should have the Camera and the Page spits out all the eligible models.
None knows more models than this page, and there are no more models
Class thing.
Antwort von Jette:
First of all thank you for your answers!
Viewed in detail:
@ B. Dekid
I actually synonymous been thinking about me
to decide, perhaps paving the road for HD or Full HD,
synonymous at the moment when I could not really utilize.
I would like with the new program Magixx Video de Luxe 16 work
I've done with Magixx (older version) a good experience.
Do you know whether the process-or. the down sampling-with the program running smoothly?
Or there may be synonymous HD cameras where you can adjust even before the recording on standard
in order to avoid converting the later ones?
@ Bernd E
Could you recommend me for a good camera, the
with SD card recording in a normal standard definition and one
Viewfinder has?
Kalle @ 70
Thanks for the hint.
I have since been synonymous reingeschaut, but I come with many
technical terms regarding video format does not clear or
do not know what that is.
HD and AVCHD is known to me here in the Introduction.
MPEG 2-TS is Magixx of the new program, I do not believe supports
and the various data-names or AVC-Intra say to me, unfortunately, not much.
What would be the right choice for standard definition?
Would be important to me-as I said - one synonymous Viewfinder!
Antwort von gunman:
Hello,
So I can warn you!
If you want to cut HD format, you need an absolute top PC or MAC.
The back and forth conversion of HD formats is synonymous not so easily!
I myself am using a JVC GY HM 100 and Magix Video Deluxe 15 with one quad core pc with 4 GB Ram. All the procedures are not comparable with the SD material XM1 my old Canon. Let me not be misunderstood: The difference in quality between SD and HD - HDV is serious!
I've been a long time almost every day here in the forum and know what I mean.
Long story short, I would buy me in any case no more SD Camera! There then remains HDV and HD.
For the HDV recording made on tape, the quality is good (in Comparison to SD), but not for everyone. For HD you have the PC working synonymous (though perhaps now the professionals here to contradict me).
The advertised price of your situation with the features required of you, I see black ...
The choice of the camera is in my opinion, much of the s.was wilt take it.
Maybe you can reveal that a few details.
Gunman
Antwort von Jette:
Hello gunman!
Thank you for your rating!
It is precisely the concerns that my editing of HD, or HD-FuLL
and makes the subsequent conversion to a lot of stress,
First time I have even brought to wonder just next
to shoot in SD format.
On the other hand you buy a camera so yes synonymous not only for 1 year.
Times to the premises.
My PC has a 2-Core Processor with 2.2 Gigaherz
a memory of 4GB and a hard drive of 500 GB!
Would that be enough for HD or HDV editing, according to your view?
I want anyway so I do not synonymous nor a new
Need to buy a PC.
Shoot I do primarily privately as a hobby for me:
Family celebrations, events, holidays, etc.
Your camcorder is of course already a class of its own:
External Micro, viewfinder, everything your heart desires --
has a proud but, unfortunately, synonymous price!
Do you Brennst synonymous in HD quality on Blu-ray, etc.
or you can compress down synonymous?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... @ E Bernd Could you recommend me for a good camera, with the SD card records in a normal standard definition and has a viewfinder? ... Recommendation I can not give you, because I do not know much about with these cameras. But since you lay on viewfinder and microphone input value, the choice may already be very clear - if there still is such a camcorder, which has both.
Antwort von Jette:
Despite Thanks Bernd!
I can not understand really honest,
why abandon virtually all the new camcorder to the viewfinder.
I think especially in the Draußenaufnahmen depending on sunlight
still very useful.
Even the connection for an external micro, I think are very important,
if one wants to take such direct language, so that they
synonymous with greater noise in the hall
and an appropriate distance to the speaker yet well understood.
Antwort von kalle70:
Comparison of the camcorder, I have narrowed down as follows: max. 750 euros, SD Card recording medium, and micro viewfinder cup provided.
Result: 1 camcorder
http://www.camcorder-test.com/camcorder-cmd-i-view-u-what-i-detail-u-lang-i-de-u-id-i-82-u-name-i- Canon HG21.html
Antwort von pilskopf:
My HC9 has a viewfinder and a micro phone jack. : D But honestly, I can dispense with the viewfinder. An S / W viewfinder, I'd like to have had, now has the color, I can not tilt the viewfinder and the aufflösung is not fun. So when a viewfinder, it must all fit and especially bockelscharf be. I never thought that I'll say this but I think there is nothing more enjoyable than a folding screen. However, the viewfinder is still in practice, there are moments when I need it. If I as the Cam on my Gorillapod and I repurpose as the shoulder rest, look, I then quite easily through the viewfinder, perfect.
In HD, I would def. . share Not just for the schnittfreundliche HDV. I have a 320 ¬ PC and have, I think, made quite elaborate videos were even times when a lot of effects to 12 tracks on it. It must first times hinbekommen with AVCHD, I guess. G'ibt not to expose as much of HDV and not synonymous s.der Volume Method. And certainly not if one uses an external Micro, then only the wear is corrosive. The capturing 1:1 in itself is not so stupid and pointless because people want the recorded stuff and have a look anyway.
Antwort von wolfgang:
My PC has a 2-Core Processor with 2.2 Gigaherz
a memory of 4GB and a hard drive of 500 GB!
Would that be enough for HD or HDV editing, according to your view?
I want anyway so I do not synonymous nor a new
Need to buy a PC.
This is absolutely sufficient to pick up an HDV Camera dieCanonHV30/40 and how good it is. Or the JVC HD40, if you want to film on board and full-HD like.
And please do not believe that full-HD is better than sooviel HDV. The purely physical Resolutionin 1920x1080 has nothing to do with the actual numbers Resolutionzu - which is about 1920x1080 pixels at derCanonHF100 despite synonymous now about the actual resolution of 1400.
And another thing: both HDV2 Resolutionmit 1440x1080 as synonymous today with 1920x1080 AVCHD devices are all HD devices.
And can your Magix deal with HDV or HD mpeg2 (m2t) very well, which can now virtually every aktulle editing software.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Yes I'm in the same system as something that goes with it and HDV thick. Of course, your preview is not full Resolutionfunktionieren but that is basically sausages. Ich habs need to get used to being able to see certain parts of a video rendering and over again to see how it looks like the finished video. But what can you do. Simple effects and cuts are not the problem but the bulk of the changes. I've used Magix synonymous, and now Vegas is not synonymous runs faster.
Antwort von Jette:
I'm really impressed with is how fast one here next helped!
SUPER FORUM! I Thank you!
Again in detail:
Kalle @ 70
Thanks for the search. The Canon HG 21 I'll definitely
times even closer look.
I think it comes to what is looking, pretty close!
@ Pilskopf
It may be that a viewfinder has to do a little something synonymous with habit. Ultimately, it is synonymous not only a buyer, but for me already synonymous with a criterion.
@ Wolfgang
Thank you for your Enschätzung:
Since I'm reassured before, that HD at least once already
PC or not s.meinem Magixx editing program fails.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Viewfinder is sharp, but sharp only when he / she is good. My previous Hi8 Of Sonyhatte a sharp viewfinder in S / W. Tilt of course what is indeed the most important and yet still have the fewest Cams. But the sharpness synonymous impressed me not stop at my HC9. I got the extra cam synonymous taken because of a viewfinder and a Lancbuchse. In the end I found that the shooting of a folding screen is simply well done and the same thing. Ner with Glidecam gehts so synonymous otherwise, but the display is almost too small, sometimes synonymous feeling halt ne thing. : D I was going to take at any time without Viewfinder Cam, I'd say from experience, one uses the viewfinder when it is not good enough, rather rare and I guess the viewfinder are all not so good in a certain price range. And tilt are very few, if any.
Antwort von Jette:
Hello Pilskopf,
Of course you are absolutely right there.
I'm probably of my requirements and expertise synonymous simply not so much as you / her and therefore erstmal happy
If I where adequate sunlight at all then in
Viewfinder the film segment saw that I want to film.
The sharpness will come hopefully later in the play.
Of course there are synonymous in the viewfinder of the huge differences
Quality here, but all that is reflected back down then yes synonymous in the price, as you already say.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Since I'm reassured before, that HD at least once already
PC or not s.meinem Magixx editing program fails. Yes, but only mpg2 HDV or HD, ok?
If you take AVCHD, then you will remain on the cutting Intermediates - these are high quality files to convert in order to be easier to cut. Go synonymous, then Grass Valley, Neo is recommended. AVCHD editing with MAGIX and Intermediates can search for what one hears so that is rather forget.
Antwort von Jette:
Yes, but only mpg2 HDV or HD, ok?
If you take AVCHD, then you will remain on the cutting Intermediates - these are high quality files to convert in order to be easier to cut. Go synonymous, then Grass Valley, Neo is recommended. AVCHD editing with MAGIX and Intermediates can search for what one hears so that is rather forget. Oh, thanks for the info, Wolfgang !!!!!!
I would be quite happy to Maggix because I am in the
Program cope very well think.
So then mpeg2 HDV or HD out of the question!
Antwort von pilskopf:
Synonymous not understand what he means. : D
Pick a cozy HDV cam from, ugh everyone. 50i, which is not so bad. Is synonymous cams like the Canon HV30 which is synonymous 25p as 24p, roughly equivalent Sonydie my HV30 is as ne can only 50i. I can live with that. And with Magix, you will have no Probs with HDV, but you Lad mal test as an HDV file down, on the net to find something if you are looking. To test dui canst synonymous download times an AVCHD file, the times I've been sick. Geht gar nicht.
Antwort von gunman:
Do you Brennst synonymous in HD quality on Blu-ray, etc.
or you can compress down synonymous? [/ quote] HI
So I got another tube TV (hardly believe ...) and down convert to SD. I do in 720 p Record 50th The files of the JVC, I must first still with one free tool (mik convert digital.de), otherwise it would sound problems with the original files are JVC. After the conversion, they are then present in a compatible mpg 2 format. This can easily read my Magix, but the cutting causes problems, because it jerky (with transitions and color correction, etc.)-synonymous with the lowest possible preview quality.
I do not have Blu Ray and convert into the SD format, which I then Mini DV respectively. DVD play (for which I obviously would not need JVC GY HM 100, but I'm ready for the future ...).
I am quite of your opinion that the sound quality of video recordings played a role almost as big as the picture quality, so it can connect an external mics for me an absolute obligation.
Here from user View of the so-called cameras are in your price areas, and thus you can not go wrong.
Perhaps you can help a TIP: Obtain a corresponding memory card (s.besten SDHC Class 6) and ask in the relevant satellite. and Medi .. if you rotate the camera of your choice with a short host sequence may. At home, you can try it as you so rightly komst. Have I done so, and quickly became synonymous sober!
Ps: I use the camera for the same opportunities as you.
There is unfortunately not a panacea and are forced to enter into compromises, etc., either in price, in size, in the recording format, in the equipment
Here in the forum you can tell yourself really well, but without familiarize yourself closer to the basic concepts of Videobearbeiutung, there are many "bohemian village" - just as I went.
Gunman
Antwort von Jette:
Hello Pilskopf
Thanks for the idea with downloading a files!
Shall I try some
Hello gunman
Thank you for your info / experiences
I indeed possessed synonymous another tube TV and am therefore
also on the down-compress rely on SD quality.
Your reasoning but for the future purchase an HD camcorder, but I find it very logical that we should just stop
can bridge the transition without major problems.
The tip with the sample images I will realize in any case be synonymous.
A little bit of time I will let me but still synonymous to read really right.
Here, namely, the more of you I read, the more I realize deulicher,
synonymous nor reason that I have about the new recording
miss.
What do you say that because of a JVC GZ-HD30?
These can include both mpeg2 as synonymous in the AVCHD format.
Then I could still take first bearbeitungsfreundlich in MPEG 2 and I would still leave open the chance later
switch to AVCHD.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... A little bit of time I'll have to read me but still synonymous me really, really ... That's always a good idea, and with the new purchase if you have not quite such a hurry, you can still synonymous Camcorder New for 2010 await the of the major manufacturers are usually presented in January.
Antwort von Jette:
Yes, thank you Bernd!
I will definitely still waiting!
Perhaps there are interesting new developments, or one recognizes
at least, the format is / are the better format to prevail?
Well, and I just need more time just synonymous me correctly
read.
My old camera is 6 years old and has just as some in
the development done! --
... And one has to look just always synonymous, that all Kompenenten,
that are involved, and no major problems are compatible
