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Welche Camcordermodelle missbraucht Ihr als Capture-Schlampen?

Which camcorder models abused as capture your bitches?



Frage von Markus:
Januar 2007

Hi,

my (videoseitig rather unexperienced) colleagues recently fell down the jaw, as I said, now finally have time a capture her bitch. ;-)

On Saturday I was in Blödmarkt and had me look at the current low-cost disposable camcorder viewed. Specifically, I need the part to the damaged foreign MiniDVs, recently more and more will, of my DV - DVCAM and drives away.

My question s.alle who already use Schlampen Capture: What Your camcorder abused for this?

Regardless I thought s.eine Panasonic GS180, this camcorder because I'm just interested. Maybe I get the birthday even after my request for a SonyPDW-F350 s.Weihnachten so "ugly" was ignored. ;-)

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Antwort von david:

hi markus!

I use a capture - my bitch dsr11, synonymous for miniDV ... s.and too but then I leave a cleaning cartridge drüber run ...

I think it is enough if you have for such beschädigiten miniDVs just with a DVCAM - blödemarkt band to go and you where the cheapest camcorder aussucht the part correctly reflects ...

Offtopic:
with the opportunity you have synonymous though the possibility of a seller yourself advice .... better than any comedy in the broadcast-tv: P
my last experience was the demand of the performance of an amplifier ...
Seller triggered this (quite simple ask) with a view to the rear of the speaker and said it: "jo, ahhh, maximum is 180watt, 160watt is minimum, since then there has 170watt amplifier so "....

In this sense,
nice evening too!
robbie



Antwort von Markus:

"robbie" wrote:
dsr11 ... ...

Neee, for these video tapes is not in question. It is not primarily about the fact that the device head many hours to acquire, but the wear due to improper treatment (damaged) MiniDV tapes. - For normal capture and Ausspielvorgängen I care.

"robbie" wrote:
"jo, ahhh, maximum is 180watt, 160watt is minimum, since then there has 170watt amplifier so" ...

Aha, an amplifier with fixed volume that is! Great idea, then more synonymous None ever louder or quieter. ;-)








Antwort von Johannes:

You ask synonymous times what I had thought net.
So for my NV-GS 27, I ne JVC DY dv 5000 HD ;-)
I had a look at ebay under defective camcorder compatriots
many have only a broken display.

VG
John



Antwort von grovel:

"John" wrote:
I had a look at ebay under defective camcorder compatriots
many have only a broken display.


This would be synonymous but I guess you get so often even in DV.

SeeYa Groveler



Antwort von Markus:

No let me, of eBay, I am now cured. In the recent past, simply because I had too much stress because of any false description and the price of a defective camcorder (which will probably be a total loss turns out), it is worth so synonymous not pick up the personal to the device before paying to be tested.

He should be new, original packaging, from the dealer and with two years warranty. So a real cheap disposable camcorder flat. :-)

The GS27 could perhaps be considered synonymous ... let's see.



Antwort von PowerMac:

I am not abusing bitches. Auser my lamp.



Antwort von Johannes:

And another Ikea a buyer ;-)

John



Antwort von alfa:

... because I would have a favorable
camcorder of mm-/saturn- ect. market
pick ... but there are already at 300, -.
maybe you have to make sure that he
work fits camcorder (sony, canon, etc..)
in HDV playing zb. sony-camcorder to the
MiniDV tapes of canon-camcorder
not readily ab!
gruß cj



Antwort von DWUA:

From John, the T (S) äufer?



Antwort von Johannes:

@ cj think you know all the not knowing?

John



Antwort von megalutzi:

"Anonymous" wrote:
... cheap camcorder under 300, --
... to play HDV zb. sony-camcorder to the
MiniDV tapes of canon-camcorder
not readily ab!


But for 300 ¬ synonymous not get the HDV camcorder ever played.








Antwort von Markus:

"PowerMac" wrote:
[...] I was abusing lamp.

I paint me straight out ... ouch, does not hurt? ;-)

Where is this thread only hingedriftet?



Antwort von Dani_74:

So I abuse for my old Sony TRV30. Has even in analog ;-).
For anything Sonyja should still be good *** *** duck away and, no, in earnest, it has a fast and stable drive makes virtually no trouble with playback and recording, and last but not least, it serves me as a spare camera or if it for tough action is (eg, car chases on the runway).

LG Dani



Antwort von Johannes:

The outer of the still.
But I think he needs no other player Hd
he said.
So Mark's brain good tip of you buy me ne JVC GY HD 500
as a player. ;-)

John



Antwort von chaos_total:

@ Markus

I thank you for your word donation! Since today my cam has a name. * ggg *

Since I do not synonymous constant access to a "real" camera had synonymous and my budget is very limited, I have an ancient on eBay JVC DVL 20 In order 167.70 (incl. postage) concerned. DV - In a slightly freischaltbar themselves. Shooting makes no fun, but I have not purchased them synonymous. In hindsight, playing in the PC is sometimes a frame, then I must stop rewind 10 seconds and create a new file.

Somehow I'm still a little nervous whether the quality matches, but until now I have neither negative nor something I would have read something about it. Or there were times when your problems (except for tracking)?

Liebe Grüße, chaos



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Mark" wrote:
"PowerMac" wrote:
[...] I was abusing lamp.

I paint me straight out ... ouch, does not hurt? ;-)

Where is this thread only hingedriftet?


With lubricant, anything is possible.



Antwort von Chezus:

@ Powermac

Will you not rather your lavalamp? From the shape is likely to determine magnificently ... ahem, relating to

@ Markus

Funny that you are standing in front of the same question as me. Will I have for this purpose, synonymous the 180er buy. So far I have always Canon MV900 hergenommen (just over 200 euros, if I am not mistaken)

What surprised me: how do you want in a camcorder to Blödmarkt capturing find? I was there again today and I wanted to watch a couple of models and real: No single (not ONE!) MiniDV Camera. Everything DVD. Not even in the foreseeable future which will have the pure.

I've asked myself silly and simply wondered why that was. The wanted to tell me that smooth MiniDV long by MiniDVDs has been removed because the quality had improved.

The fact that I am reasonably familiar to me and he does not need scheiß tell him I still say a discussion but I'm out of the way gone.

We here in the forum Jan würd sowas glaub ich nicht, or? (So what unsuspecting customers turn on)



Antwort von alfa:

hmm,
I thought I had only recently some
MiniDV cams seen there.
gruß cj



Antwort von Eva Maier:

Have little s.Hut with DV, but I can say that within a short time as well as all SVHS recorder have disappeared from the market, (! Or Mark) so you should be careful when infernally mann old material in stock and has no equipment for Play

/ E



Antwort von Chezus:

Can it be that in the other markets are still more. In our county in any case there seems to be no more. Schade








Antwort von Markus:

"Chezus" wrote:
[blödmarkt] No single (not ONE!) MiniDV Camera. Everything DVD.

That was in Frankfurt different, because there were actually all recording formats. A young family had just discussed and I heard the saleswoman's a little too. When they of the number of sensor points on the CCD anfieg, I won quite a deep breath ...

... but then they said this figure was only for the Photo function interesting. Lucky I was able to air again rauslassen. ;-)

"Eva Maier" wrote:
... that within a short time as well as all SVHS recorder have disappeared from the market ...

Around ten years disappeared the SVHS Recorder from the professional sector, a little later, the consumer model really cheap (in two senses). For digitization, the current greed-Blöd models of today, but hard to use.



Antwort von Johannes:

And so Mark is blue, and not just green. ;-)

John



Antwort von pat16:

Hi ;-)

So, I had a DHR-1000, has done everything what was DV and miniDV. After the forced HD ifizierung in the stock of a colleague is changed hab 'I create a new division of labor.

Sony tapes and DVCAM tapes in the DSR-20 Capture and off. Consumer miniDV recordings (for customers) and import of non-Sony MiniDV tapes, the PC-120 ...

The part must eh yes' whenever excuse me if anything is too bad ... and was thus synonymous already seen zwiscehn clutter in the rack ..., Markus's true? ;-)

LG, Pat



Antwort von rtzbild:

Because opinion-change-delete



Antwort von Markus (unangemeldet):

Hi,

I now have the Panasonic GS27 envisaged. Can this model the head drum can reach well in order to clean (if necessary by unscrewing the tape compartment lid)? That would be important for my application.

Or the cheap MiniDV camcorder knows your still in which the head drum can achieve good? Brand, Model and Lowlight properties are totally me no preference ... only a DV output must be available so that a digital transfer is possible. ;-)
_________________
Liebe Grüße
Mark :-)



Antwort von Markus:

How this is so with the mood ... Today, I wonder also whether the GS27 synonymous with the code data output? When Umkopieren of DV tapes would be very chic. The same applies to anamorphic 16:9-recorded videos.

Anyone knows from personal experience? For example, John? ;-)



Antwort von Johannes:

So you if I can say to them.
I recently compatriots again after I had the GS 15th Nv
The Quality was better than the hammer of the XM1 but there are new and used not only to selten.Soviel otherwise on their own experience when they play on many times bischen spun.
Well your own fault when one of the pictures I told my Assiten (brother) leg mal ne Video an AND he could not yet read.
After 48 hours working and a receptive 1/2h capturing just before I look in the slot and it because it is a ..... drin.
Ansonten hammer the teil.Perferkt for your purpose.

John



Antwort von PowerMac:

Vol of Hamer!



Antwort von Johannes:

No, it is the hammer was a Reinigungs Casset inserted :-)

John








Antwort von Johannes:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Vol of Hamer!

the word is so Hammer with 2 m and not Hamer ;-)
But the hammer was in the right Kasstenschacht was a Reinigungskassete. :-)

John



Antwort von PowerMac:

Really?



Antwort von Chezus:

Yes, without scheis



Antwort von Johannes:

really?
Now I am no longer safe ;-)

John



Antwort von Markus:

Hi,

Finally, I wanted you even know what model is your camcorder with me in the future with the title may adorn Capture bitch: It is a SonyDCR-HC35E with DV-IN. A cost of 300 ¬.

Soon, I published a comparison test between a PD170 and the HC35, if anyone else between these two models varies. ;-)))



Antwort von robbs:

Hi Markus,
on this comparison test, we are anxious times;)))

You're a man, where you can rely on!
It is not our job, but also on the lookout for a good "bitch" because you are not a tape of the outside can see how smooth they ironed Band salad houses.
( "Mark, it is already set")
Once in a relatively short time in this our 2 "cheap" Canons,
With DV-IN, their minds are more or less have abandoned
We hope you like your "bitch" for better digestion.
A digital / precision K (R) Opf but unfortunately there is not.
When your trusted customers (this) just like our "trusted".

But thank you for your tip!

Last but not least:
Up to 10 T your ultrasound breakthrough was just yet
250 remaining contributions.
The handball is world champion.
And did not your efficiency ratio ...

Congratulations and thanks again!



Antwort von Chezus:

As with looks of experience report from Markus? Are you satisfied with your Schalampe?



Antwort von Markus:

To capture the part alright, but I would be filming with this cheap disposable camcorder do not want. * shudder * The differences in material, processing, haptics and of course the synonymous (Camera-) recording quality are enormous compared to "real" camcorders.

But who would have expected something else synonymous with such a cheap device? ;-)



Antwort von Chezus:

Is it bad in contrast to the PD170 or any other consumer cams you up to now had in his hand?

Mir gehts question: I need a synonymous Capture "serf" as synonymous, but the camera for my father could serve when the time is on the film. He is my PD 150 bit too big to bring fast times.

I have always until now with his old JVC (Built 1999) captured and is now the head as good as broken. Affects not only the film but made synonymous with the capture. Now I am obviously synonymous him somehow guilty and due a few new acquisitions (MacPro, Final Cut Studio, 22 "TFT) is a Pana NV-GS 300 at the moment is simply not there.








Antwort von Markus:

"Chezus" wrote:
Is it bad in contrast to the PD170 or any other consumer cams you up to now had in his hand?

My next-cheaper MiniDV camcorder next to the HC35 is almost 10 times as expensive TRV900. How should this be a sensible lead Comparison? - Therefore I restrain it for the time points, irrespective of which I have noticed:

1. The display is from a relatively sharp, but has only a very small viewing angle. Looking not at the optimum angle to the display, then all the typical LCD problems (deterioration of brightness, reduction in the contrast to the negative image). When sunlight is only the image estimate, but nothing more.

2. The viewfinders can be completely forgotten, as the eyecup is extremely small. So we wanted to film, you run the risk of the eye auszustechen.

3. The device has many manual controls (only picture, no sound), but found exclusively in the menu, what about the touch screen is reached. The navigation is due to very small (virtual) keys for a bit thin fingers.

4. The IR port is located on the base. The camcorder itself has only one AV connection in the special format (special cable required, is in composite performance standard in). If a tape change, you have the device of the first docking station down because otherwise the cassette compartment does not open or the camcorder may be damaged.

5. The tiny Zoomwippe measures 5 × 7 mm and must be operated very sensitively, which is due to the location and function but synonymous with thick sausage fingers is possible.

6. The Microphone I have not yet heard, but it might not seem to accomplish outstanding achievements. In particular, I will assume that synonymous drive much noise (it) is likely to emerge (as in my other camcorders). For an external microphone is no connection available.

7. The HC35 is very easy, not necessarily what I see as a benefit (lack of inertia -> more involuntary movements). The Image Stabilization is due to the small image converter only very limited impact and failed at longer focal lengths seem completely his service. Personally, I prefer bigger and heavier (!) Devices, which I did for about twice as large TRV900 already a bit too small.

8. The drive makes the comparison to correct MiniDV camcorders DVCAM Mazen and a very shaky and poorly processed impression.

9. Finally, a plus point: The HC35 has a DV input. ;-)

As far as the aspects that I have noticed so far. My statements are, of course, has to be worthy, that I preferred working with proper tools and toys for not a lot have left. Whoever filmed only with Billigcamcordern argued, perhaps differently. Still costs a HC35 approximately 50% more than the currently cheapest MiniDV camcorder.



Antwort von Jotob1993:

So I film with a Panasonic MX-300 and a playback-bitch as you call it, I use my old SonyDCR HC-17th That works great no dropped frames or something.




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