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Which hard drive camcorder? Canon HG10? Or something with 1080p? Tip?



Frage von Tobias Claren:


Hello.

I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
The best results I found on the Canon HG10 which is the image quality is concerned.
But he has "only" 1080i.
If you may be a device with 1080p are looking for?
So far as I found the Panasonic "HDC-HS9. The but is fairly new, and
cost slightly more.
Also since you will not be needed. This can be 630 euros (HG10) to
812 euros (HDC-HS9, new).
But he has 1080p. And synonymous 3 CCDs, but that's not all. There are
1-Chiper synonymous with better results than 3-Chiper.

If this value is synonymous 1080p set?
The device is for my parents / parent, and a FullHD TV with 1080p is
(almost) available (in the next coming days).

The most important is the image quality. So games like less, but
best image quality for the lowest price (ie not at any price).
When this took HG10 (peak in tests, and cheap), but there are also
the uncertainty wegenm 1080i and 1080p.

Regards,
Clare Tobias





Antwort von Matthias Berke:

Tobias Clare wrote:

> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.

If you are wrong. Times but please read the group name - what
what do you mean is "comp"?

Matthias





Antwort von Matthias Berke:

Tobias Clare wrote:

> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.

If you are wrong. Times but please read the group name - what
what do you mean is "comp"? Wende Dich s.eine "technology" group

Matthias








Antwort von Tobias Claren:

"Matthias Berke" wrote in news post
Re: Which hard drive camcorder? Canon HG10? Or something with 1080p? Tip # # #
> Clare Tobias wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
>
> If you are wrong. Times but please read the group name - what
> Do you mean what is "comp"? Wende Dich s.eine "technology" group

I searched for and de video and camcorder etc. sought, but only this one
found.





Antwort von Norbert Müller

Tobias Clare wrote:
> "Matthias Berke" wrote in news post
> Re: Which hard drive camcorder? Canon HG10? Or something with 1080p? Tip # # #
>> Clare Tobias wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
>>
>> If you are wrong. Times but please read the group name - what
>> What do you mean is "comp"? Wende Dich s.eine "technology" group
>
> I searched for and de video and camcorder etc. sought, but only those
> Found here.

Such a technique group, I have not yet found synonymous. I film or
Videography DV and still had concerns on hard drive or mini-DVD
or stick to film - I prefer to have cassettes that you can cancel and
after years of re-use, for example for combination of cuts recorded
Events. Hard disks are too uncertain.

Greetings, Norbert





Antwort von Günter_Hackel:

Tobias Clare wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
> The best results I found on the Canon HG10 which is the image quality is concerned.
> But he has "only" 1080i.
> Is it possibly a device with 1080p are looking for?
> So far as I found the Panasonic "HDC-HS9. The but is fairly new, and
> A bit more.

What did you think because? Latest technology, high-quality scrap metal prices?

> Also since you will not be needed. This can be 630 euros (HG10) to
> 812 euros (HDC-HS9, new).
> But he has 1080p. And synonymous 3 CCDs, but that's not all. There are
> 1-Chiper synonymous with better results than 3-Chiper.

The type and size of the chips machens and then plays a high-quality
Optics plays an important role. Just incidentally, I had only recently for a
Optics paid about 700 euros.

> The device is for my parents / parent, and a FullHD TV with 1080p is
> (Almost) available (in the next coming days).

>
> The most important is the image quality. So games like less, but
> Best picture quality for the lowest price (ie not at any price).

2 years to wait or pay more. I do not have enough money to
cheap to buy - and I mean that completely seriously.
gh




Antwort von Günter_Hackel:

Tobias Clare wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
> The best results I found on the Canon HG10 which is the image quality is concerned.
> But he has "only" 1080i.
> Is it possibly a device with 1080p are looking for?
> So far as I found the Panasonic "HDC-HS9. The but is fairly new, and
> A bit more.
> Also since you will not be needed. This can be 630 euros (HG10) to
> 812 euros (HDC-HS9, new).
> But he has 1080p. And synonymous 3 CCDs, but that's not all. There are
> 1-Chiper synonymous with better results than 3-Chiper.
>
> If you value here synonymous 1080p set?
> The device is for my parents / parent, and a FullHD TV with 1080p is
> (Almost) available (in the next coming days).
>
> The most important is the image quality. So games like less, but
> Best picture quality for the lowest price (ie not at any price).
> The HG10 took this (peak in tests, and cheap), but there are also
> Uncertainty wegenm 1080i and 1080p.

Hello
sure is only one thing: You get no real quality
Scrap prices. The quality of optical devices, for example, is extremely
dependent of really good lens systems - and cost more than you
're ready for a full camcorder out ....
If you value high quality lay, one would be synonymous
Harddisks camcorder is not the right one, would be a better
Digital camcorder with the tape drive. After processing, this is synonymous
for quality, you can find the pictures in as high quality still
media of your choice to secure synonymous to one or more hard disks.
A word about the chips, with large numbers is often advertised as
even the most inexperienced people to handle them. Much
It is difficult to understand what's really behind it. When
Photography is slow to realize that a good
Bildverarbeitungweitaus brings more than 12Megapixel eg instead of "only"
6. It is synonymous with the camcorder not only on the number of chips
to synonymous to their size, image and, as I said: the Optics
gh




Antwort von Michael Spohn:

Moin,

Tobias Clare wrote:
> "Matthias Berke" wrote in news post
> Re: Which hard drive camcorder? Canon HG10? Or something with 1080p? Tip # # #
>> Clare Tobias wrote:
>>> I'm looking for a FullHD camcorder with hard drive.
>>
>> If you are wrong. Times but please read the group name - what
>> What do you mean is "comp"? Wende Dich s.eine "technology" group
>
> I searched for and de video and camcorder etc. sought, but only this one
> Found.

If yes synonymous not in the name of the newsgroup: de.rec.tv.technik

Would you like Matthias synonymous same write. As a regular he should
know that the name of the NG is very inadequate and therefore
always people on video here lost ...

--
Bye
Michael




Antwort von Besim Karadeniz:

Hi,

Günter Hackel wrote:

> Surely is only one thing: You get no real quality
> Scrap prices. The quality of optical devices, for example, is extremely
> Subject of really good lens systems - and cost more than you
>'re Ready for a full camcorder out ....

Hm, since I would not my hand that verwetten. For one, I know
which is broadcast quality and is synonymous knows how bad farbunecht
partly professional Lenses in the midrange area working to
others I have seen what so many an HD camcorder, even with only
a CCD for amazing results, of which less than five
Years previously only dreamed, either qualitatively or her price.
Although then only broadcast quality, but perfectly respectable.

> If you value high quality lay, one would be synonymous
> Harddisks camcorder is not the right one, would be a better
Digital camcorder with the tape drive. After processing, this is synonymous
> To the quality, you can find the recordings in as high quality still
> On the media of your choice secure synonymous to one or more hard disks.

Camcorder with hard drive is believe that a unidirekte history,
Material must stop at some point inevitably down the box of what
for camcorders with mini-DVD or tape of home from the case.
The other hand, has the medium of choice, because many
Digicam owners almost never change the card out and would
consequently, with a built-in camera with memory constraints.

However, the image quality of the mini-DVD and a HDD camcorder
other than mini-DV or HDV, because the data rate is lower.
The other hand is a tape drive in a turn, a different camera
Taste matters for mechanics and head wear. There are
DV tapes unbeatable low price performance. Everything balancing thing.

> A word about the chips, with large numbers is often advertised as
> Even the most inexperienced people to handle them. Much
> It is difficult to understand what's really behind it. When
> Photography is slow to realize that a good
> Bildverarbeitungweitaus more effective than 12Megapixel eg instead of "only"
> 6 It is synonymous with the camcorder not only on the number of chips
> As synonymous to their size, image and, as I said: the Optics

Undoubtedly. However, the HD camcorder (still) in a different
Price league, not necessarily at the very last bit into the device
needs. I could imagine that for a while so synonymous
remains, because the market of low-priced camcorder ever more by the film
Phones is distressed and the HD domain is largely technically
stand out. The quality is not the mainstream anyway, if I
so the success of Youtube and look at the fact that even
TV stations in doubt synonymous such material, if sufficiently
Disaster it is.

Besim

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Antwort von Günter_Hackel:

Besim Karadeniz wrote:
Everything balancing thing.

* THE * take it to the point. Everyone naturally wants the best for
lowest price to buy - it would be possible, that is synonymous needs
equal, it is likely to exceed 1 Manufacturer Model of each type;)
The agony of choice, I'll leave me with much more expensive equipment
Time for Choice and try to hineinzuhören in me that can not
Test Report and Recommendation does not afford:)
gh





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