Frage von Simo:
topic says it all really.
There are manufacturers of minidv tapes that must be avoided? or all brand manufacturers (panasonic, jvc, sony, etc.) equally good? what have you done with what to experiences?
am in search of high quality tapes for my XM1.
thnx, simo
Antwort von Fan29:
Actually, all DV tapes are equally good. There are only some Tape-/Camera combinations, which somehow fit together properly.
It's generally not a problem if one takes a different brand than that of the the camera. I (a Sonyand eg movies on tape Panasonic (DVC))
Antwort von grovel:
So after a few years, the forum I would say:
Let the fingers of SONY - with no other Manufacturer there are so many problems. Unless you buy the hellishly expensive premium tapes.
Even I always take TDK or Panasonic and never had any problems.
But as I said, there is always Camera / Manufacturer combinations, which make themselves bitchy.
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von jens:
@ Fan:
Well,
desöfteren heard that JVC cameras not with Sony tapes would be tolerated.
Similarly, I would not necessarily say that all MiniDV tapes are equally well. Why then are there different versions of bands (eg Sony Premium / Excellence) with divergent prices?
Among the more expensive / higher-quality bands, the dropout probability will be lower. Likewise, I have occasionally (except one of JVC-Cams) of problems with Sony premium tapes.
Still others say that it is all rubbish, they change their brands as their underpants. Perhaps this is true then it 'ne experience thing.
No complaints (and one very fair price) I've ever heard of the Panasonic tapes.
If you are a little "search" striving to do you'll be able to learn a lot more tapes relating to (and Panasonic-type reference).
Have fun,
Jens
* edit *:
Not the premium but the excellence is the "expensive" Sony tapes. Unfortunately, I had only s.Anfang the ability to just turn out to ... now I'm Sonyhilflos delivered ...;-)...( urgs ... just ordered another 15 tapes for Chile ...)
Antwort von Jack43:
Hello Jens!
Let the fingers of Sony Premium! The best hot EMTEC! I know several professionals who have thoroughly tested these tapes, and have come to the conclusion that there is no better! Since then, I use only EMTEC and never again had problems with "digital blocks," bugger it, the Picture!
The EMTEC gibts eg Media Markt or Mega Store!
Gruss Paul
Antwort von Markus:
Ouch!
This is another of those typical questions, which may lead to a long thread over to the ... And sometimes nothing new comes out. ;-)
Has this issue not discussed often enough?
An example:
Antwort von jasmin61:
Here's what rather interesting
http://forum.slashcam.de/mini-dv-kassetten-vt23082.html?highlight=tape
Antwort von Markus:
http://forum.slashcam.de/mini-dv-kassetten-vt23082.html?highlight=tape You have carefully studied my link (links) there! ;-)
Antwort von jasmin61:
I'm on the search on it come ....
Were probably faster than me ;-)
Antwort von jens:
Hello Jens!
Let the fingers of Sony Premium! The best hot EMTEC! Hi Paul,
no, that was misverständlich expressed. I use the Sony Excellence tapes (of course ...). without this chip They're just Schweineteuer. The (improved) Panasonic are a bit cheaper. That surprises me with EMTEC. Since I am of the brand (in the blank DVD-context) is one more 'negative (which incidentally does not have is a BASF Zweigling ...).
Greetings,
Jens
Antwort von Jack43:
Hello Jens!
I can only say that I use these tapes for years, and since then had no more problems! Neither mechanical nor optical! Yes, the coming of BASF!
äs Grüessli from Switzerland :-)
Antwort von Markus:
I'm on the search on it come ....
Were probably faster than me ;-) Yes true, your post tells the attentive reader the used search ... well, my posts synonymous, but since I had used two search terms ... ;-)
Antwort von Hogar:
... The best hot EMTEC! I know several professionals who have thoroughly tested these tapes, and have come to the conclusion that there is no better! ... Is that really so, or did you write that only because they are the best according to your convictions and you with the "pro" argument simply give your statement a little strongly wanted?
With EMTEC I have several problems, both in CD's, DVD's and synonymous Digital Betacam cassettes. Cd'A and DVD's are sometimes at 2 years was no longer legible. And at a station where I work, they have rausgschmissen EMTEC completely because one every 10 Digibeta cassette could easily jump to throw away. Why should the miniDV cassettes should now be so very good? Would surprise me. But well - I like to let me teach, when there is a contrary test results. But then only with source.
Hogar
Antwort von prem:
Nope, those are both professionals who work for television, and one of them has a video production company! I really can not say other than that I am fully satisfied with the EMTEC! With test results, I can not serve you, alas! The two professionals have with these tapes by professionals s.wenigsten problems!
Gruss Paul
Antwort von fragmaniac:
I 'I now have the Panasonic NV-GS300EG-S ordered. Now I need tapes. Such threads I've read me already. My Conclusion thereof:
- Preferably use always the same.
- Panasonic Professional Mini-DV tapes would probably s.besten, synonymous but in Comparison 'ne whole corner and more expensive for me as an amateur / amateur filmmakers rather exaggerated.
- The 3 CCD tapes are too expensive.
My questions are now open:
- What do you think of the Panasonic standard cassettes? Funny, I find that the Long Play mode is great printed on the package, and Short Play small. Does that mean now that the shit in the short play are? (I'm planning to use only short play.)
- Should I buy a cleaning cartridge like this?
The Panasonic tapes would be this one:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000A41H62/
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Hello Jens!
Let the fingers of Sony Premium! The best hot EMTEC! I know several professionals who have thoroughly tested these tapes, and have come to the conclusion that there is no better! Since then, I use only EMTEC and never again had problems with "digital blocks," bugger it, the Picture!
The EMTEC gibts eg Media Markt or Mega Store!
Gruss Paul Sony Premium have with me a few mistakes. But even worse are the vieeel EMTEC. As a dropout / failure chasing the next! Never again. Use only the current Sony Excellence and am so very happy.
Antwort von Markus:
Funny, I find that the Long Play mode is great printed on the package, and Short Play small. Standard Play (not Short Play) is printed so small, because a longer duration is better read than a shorter one. At some time had a band and started doing all the other manufacturers have imitated it.
LP offers to make recordings in a variety of reasons not to (usKompatibilität).
Antwort von hannes:
@ fragmaniac
> - Panasonic Professional Mini-DV tapes were probably s.besten, synonymous but in Comparison 'ne whole corner rather exaggerated and expensive for me as an amateur / amateur filmmakers.
????? At ¬ 3.50 per piece
You must tell me the times.
Antwort von thommi1980:
10 tapes in this free broadcast-Shop Euro 43.35 including shipping. In the standard cost Verlgeich dazzu Panasonic, which I have now ordered, 26.90 euro (and for me even just 24.00 Euro because I still had 2.90 euros cash at Amazon). The professional me then things were just too expensive.
Antwort von ropro:
I'm using the last two years, only the cheap Sony Premium tapes in my Canon MV200 and has yet almost no problems with that.
In 2003, I've used TDK synonymous, but unfortunately many shots were a little later no longer properly playable. I do not know if this is a general problem s.den TDK cassettes, or whether my camera has spun, I leave now anyway hands off.
A few months ago I filmed outside s.Abend am nacher went in briefly and then go out again, and this is likely to have condensation s.Videokopf formed in all cases the camera, the cassette has not correctly identified and no timecode when recording more displayed. Nevertheless, I can record the cassette well, except for the first ten minutes, which remain blue. Odd.
Since then, problems often occur when played on for a cassette change. If I is short drüberaufnehme everything ok again.
Would be interested to know what's going on and if the problem occurs with other synonymous. But suppose again that it is mainly s.der MV200 is indeed synonymous already 6 years old and was much in use.
Antwort von tofuSCHNITZEL:
Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ. Thus I have the fewest problems and are really very reliable.
Antwort von djoesch:
Hello!
I broach the subject once again.
I wanted to buy for a rotation in India 50 Mini-DV tapes.
The dealer wanted me to proof that optimizes the Panasonic DVC 3CCD Professional for (3 Pcs 12EUR), better image quality than the normal 5-packs for $ 10. (JVC)
I have a SonyVX-1000 with 3CCD - logical.
But I think digital is digital - I can understand that there are lower quality tapes, where there are more spitting, but a better picture quality - that's bullshit right? Digital is digital - why another tape to store other data.
If the dealer's fucked me?
Antwort von rtzbild:
Better image quality, perhaps not directly, but more durable.
Is just as with the tripods, they are all good at first, later of "Rattle & Bobble-fly" at the top of the tilt.
HTH
Olli
Antwort von BjörnF:
So 3CCD tapes are utter nonsense.
Even with digital recording, there may be differences in quality of bands - but there shall be constituted by the probability of failures and dropouts. But through a better tape does not improve the image quality.
I swear no particular brand synonymous, had no problems with the Sony & Panasonic Premium, synonymous in the lively exchange. The are my favorite but then the tapes of Fuji.
Björn
Antwort von schumi65:
I also think it with the Panasonic 3CCD Tapes exaggerating a bit. At least I can read anywhere, WHAT should I now s.diesen bands have been better. Digital is digital - so the improvement can, at least not in the picture quality, because that is the same for all tapes. What should be the rubbish with the special suitability for particular camcorder with 3CCD chips??
Value should be placed on the stability of the recordings and the interference (dropouts) are as low as possible. Furthermore, the operating characteristics, ie reinweg mechanical things are relevant. These are qualities that one might with real influence over the quality of the tapes. It would be interesting to know yet to what extent an effect as regards the professional strips of the tape and wear it directly on the pollution of minds. I guess those are the criteria which one might rely on the Comparison of the tapes, they would perform for extensive tests. But who of you have sacrificed his camcorder for a Test series? I do not.
Also my favorite place again s.dieser Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ.
Why? Relating to the thread because I've studied extensively, and this tape as "The Winner" is evident in the number of contributions.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Hello
I always use Premuim of Sonyand've not really bad experience with it.
But where I do not quite have the various glimpses Sony tapes. Have recently seen in the white media packaging market. What are these for the how? And there are several synonymous excellence of Sony. Perhaps this time could be a more precise explanation of what everything is getting because it looks Sonyzu None by more. 've Thought again whether I should take not perhaps better tapes, but in this jungle but I then landed again on Premium which I do not buy any blödsinn me.
Would it really dnakbar when the time someone explained what it could because everything is s.Sonys, wants to take for my Sonycam synonymous Sony tapes.
Antwort von Johannes:
Never Take the Sony Dinger
when I was full after the Cam
s.hatte for ar .... sch S.da
I always Remove the casset
problems (see link)
http://forum.slashcam.de/postet-hier-alle-remove-the-cassette-probleme-bei-der-xm2-pic-vt24454.html
And if you made it yet read the finger of the other
John
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Use Sony Excellence and has been over 5 years, no problems!
One should certainly not use different tapes in a camera.
More information here:
http://forum.slashcam.de/mini-dv-cassetten-vt31826.html?highlight=aydvm
Greeting
Nightfly!
Antwort von BjörnF:
But where I do not quite have the various glimpses Sony tapes. Have recently seen in the white media packaging market. What are these for the how? The packaging is white with the HDV tapes.
Apparently even better, great, dropoutsicherer. When a customer pays, I'll take you, but otherwise do so synonymous for the HDV standard DV tapes.
Björn
Antwort von Gothmoth:
Hello Bjoern
I'm using since 98 without any problems Sony, Excellence, tapes, both in the TRV 900 as synonymous in the VX 2100th
It is important that you stay with a tape - type. It is indeed only a few eh Manufacturer, all the others in which the purchase and assemble Rohband only.
The price differences can be explained, as I understand it:
Raw Materials In a multi-meter breitese tape is produced. The coating is there but not 100% evenly, ie towards the edge, the error rate is slightly higher. After cutting the tapes are cheaper, towards the center, they are then stop a little more expensive.
But since there are 2 different methods of coating, and the band is unfortunately not always tolerates abrasion is then the gap just to the head drum, and there are problems. Therefore eighth stop on the tape - not on dieFirma.
Guenther
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Björn you are you sure, I think yes, the cost not so much.
Antwort von Peter06:
buy the cheapest, is no preference. use the sony premium at 2.40 and am satisfied. Your image is therefore no better or worse. that can distinguish one result of which the bands are considered noise band and durability (over years).
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
For Premiums belies the extra long life.
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Hello Andreas!
You will not always be determined, the tape then overwrite nhemen but rather a new one. The tapes are your archives.
DV tapes can be used synonymous for HDV.
If YOU want to be sure a more expensive (here, take recommended) otherwise, not the cheapest.
Sony, Panasonic tapes.
Greeting
Nightfly!
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Yes but what Sony tapes?
I think because so many different, there are I think I have finally seen even different excellence of Sony, probably with and without a chip. I must write my views really well in the various shops and then compare times exactly.
Antwort von DWUA:
Be sure to Sony?
Our Mark of religious wars in this regard has spoken out!
And he's right.
Our specialist in television studio equipment can be a song about it
sing, because it confirms that the many differences of opinion
occur even in the wily cinematographers to light.
Maybe it will help you next, when we tell you, that with a lot
Experience not only with a SonyDVCam for their Mini DV field
has advised the following bands:
Panasonic Digital Video Cassette "for Professional Use" AY-DVM63AMQ or under it. (Not exactly MISER).
But you wanted but what GOOD!?
(We have no long-term experience with it.)
Depends what you intend to.
In general,
Permanent changes in the line locations (fabrications) is harmful in the long run.
The coating can be quite different to an unex -
desired chemical abrasion "Cocktail" result, which eventually
have unpleasant consequences.
Override of course only if old and new contents are not
decisive importance to appear ...
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I have so far allowed only premium and any other tape in my camcorder, I could say of reason, would you still determined to change trains. But I would have to Sonybleiben synonymous because of the Cam and the next Sonyist synonymous determined Sonywerden will of another.
With the premium I have done up to now only one bad experience and since I have bought a five pack, I would not do. I think this is not true 1a, buy more, since only single and not more than 2 pieces, namely, if you hit a bad batch are all affected and then only 2 pieces, do it just for DVD and other storage media.
I have to look at it really well again, a shift would certainly be possible, but because I hold so many bands Sony knows I do not now if this is really the best.
