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XDCAM HD – eiskalt betrachtet

XDCAM HD - eiskalt considered



Frage von Bernd E.:
März 2007

Not everyone gets the opportunity cameraman, eight weeks in Antarctica to rotate. Interestingly, however, it is probably all for such a report to read, especially since the production after a Comparison of Super16mm, P2, XDCAM HD Varicam and decided for the latter:

www.xdcamhdantarctica.blogspot.com

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Pianist:

Sounds good - once more an argument for the PDW-F350.

Matthias



Antwort von mdb:

"Bernd E." wrote:
since the production after a Comparison of Super16mm, P2, XDCAM HD Varicam and decided for the latter:


Although we are synonymous XDCAM 100 or more have bought, I think P2
in terms of digital workflow usefully








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"mdb" wrote:
P2 seems to me in terms of digital workflow usefully

That's my opinion, very relevant to the task at. With a view to the forthcoming HPX500, I would very like to see me with the P2 system could be friends, but unfortunately, it is because due to the well-known weaknesses (eg sharing of media or storage) no alternative. And why four SD cards in a PCMCIA housing more than 1000 euros must seh I do not quite synonymous.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Pianist:

"mdb" wrote:
Although we are synonymous XDCAM 100 or more purchased, P2 seems to me in terms of digital workflow usefully

So you want to just under 5,000 EUR five P2 cards to buy, where you then only a total of 40 minutes can turn?

Sowas may be interesting for situations where the team is only as far removed from the sender that they still see the spire. And where in return the material immediately to a server will be copied and sent only the contribution archived. So for example, the ARD Berlin Studio is expected to be a very good solution.

For me, the requirements are quite different: One week tour of Germany or Europe, all sorts of spin, and just an arbitrary quantity XDCAM cartridges are. And then moved to the archive, because I s.all my original recordings synonymous years later still rankommen must. No Umkopieren necessary.

Mir is still not well at the thought of me the full archive hard to make.

Matthias



Antwort von mdb:

"Pianist" wrote:
Mir is still not well at the thought of me the full archive hard to make.


Why? Do you think the life of the discs is higher than that of a removable hard disk on the shelf? Or a RAID-5 arrays with the appropriate backup strategy? I am not so sure.

For us it was an argument for the disc, which the author was to take away (and in the cabinet are better). When I think back to how often desperately material (then cassettes) was searched, I think it rather counter-productive.

As for the price factor is concerned: this is synonymous to what to do. What is a gigabyte laptop with P2 reader and external hard disks are cheaper than the corresponding capacity discs?

Camera with harddrive as Ikegami is perhaps even more meaningful (for the price hard drive).



Antwort von Pianist:

"mdb" wrote:
Camera with harddrive as Ikegami is perhaps even more meaningful (for the price hard drive).

The Editcam HD is better with the security camera, but it cost three times synonymous. And it begs the question: Do we need still higher quality really mean? I am strongly s.Zweifeln. At least for my films seems to me the quality of XDCAM HD to be sufficient, I did the previous sample recordings do not interfere or weaknesses discovered.

And on the hard disks in my archives have evolved over the past 12 years a total of 800 Betacam SP cassettes accumulated. Let's assume that non-bursting, but on average it is 30 minutes. And furthermore, we assume that one of the 800 tapes in strict approach would have about 200 tapes can be used again because the original recordings were not so important that they would have to be archived. Always remain another 600 tapes, each 30 minutes, ie 18,000 minutes. At one minute per GB would be the 18 TB for the next 12 years. So the present state to 36 hard disks 500 GB each. I think that in terms of risk sharing is quite daring. If a record is broken or no longer running, are 500 Archive minutes gone. So you have to double secure, then we are already hard at 72.

Let of EUR 200 for a hard drive that are hard to EUR 14,400 in 12 years. Since we can safely expect the prices to fall next.

600 XCDAM-C artridges cost synonymous around 15,000 EUR, which takes nothing. Since I would only synonymous times to renounce dual filing, because the risk distribution is more favorable.

I would be synonymous remains unclear how the hard disks of external label should be reasonably legible, with many content. So that you have the proper synonymous harddrive picks from the archive if you have a specific scene will.

Matthias



Antwort von mdb:

"Pianist" wrote:
Do we need still higher quality really mean?

The Editcam is just one example. A XDCAM removable disks could contain, instead of the optical drive.

"Pianist" wrote:
I would be synonymous remains unclear how the hard disks of external label should be reasonably legible, with many content. So that you have the proper synonymous harddrive picks from the archive if you have a specific scene will.


The get a number, by title and content looking in Calculator, which synonymous preview the material is located.



Antwort von Pianist:

"mdb" wrote:
The get a number, by title and content looking in Calculator, which synonymous preview the material is located.

Then I'm already at a proper archive system and needs a lot of time stuck in the administration. The XDCAM cartridges I maintain, the cassette thematically (and within the subject chronologically) next to a shelf. For me, this is the best solution, because I'm the only one who s.das material rangeht. Would that be different, your solution would obviously be the right one.

Matthias



Antwort von mdb:

"Pianist" wrote:
For me, this is the best solution, because I'm the only one who s.das material rangeht. Would that be different, your solution would obviously be the right one.
We are of course many that even with the shooting had nothing to do.



Antwort von PowerMac:

I do not know if XDCAM HD always last. Travel Reportages yes, for event and film industry, yes. But for glossy stuff and Scenic HDCAM is (-SR) probably better. Even today, much to DVCAM, but something always in 16:9 on Digibeta. For the output to PAL-HD XDCAM is rich. But even the Ö.-R. 2008/2009 will slowly change to HD. Then you can sell those overpriced HD ... ;)



Antwort von Pianist:

"PowerMac" wrote:
But for glossy stuff and Scenic HDCAM is (-SR) probably better.

Well - and what does HDCAM SR specifically? That you with an Arri D20 and then have to turn on blower on a abgesetzen recorder aufnimmst. So no solution for mobile work. Apart from this, I will probably never be any dramatic things.

I therefore believe that the PDW-F350, for me, the Camera is right and I do for my HD entities may realize, without the need to raise prices.

Matthias








Antwort von wolfgang:

"Pianist" wrote:

So the present state to 36 hard disks 500 GB each. I think that in terms of risk sharing is quite daring. If a record is broken or no longer running, are 500 Archive minutes gone. So you have to double secure, then we are already hard at 72.


Nee, sowas would you probably useful in Raid5 secure interconnection upwards - some with Raid 5, where you said very roughly about 1 / 4 capacity lose, and at the failure of a plate still had all the data. Doubling is expected to record the inventory that is unlikely.




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