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Frage von rtzbild:


Hi All,

the Cam, I have chosen schonmal (XM-2, VX-2100), but not yet decided.

A good mic (Electrec) is worth good money, but what if you have erstmal use what is there, eg Shure SM 58 (XLR) or Philips ME 570 () 3.5 mm jack.

Question:
Are there any adapter for XLR mics s.3, 5mm jack?
Or vice versa?
Can I make it a part of themselves according to personal needs?

Another question:
Mic has a 3.5 mm mono jack, the input is stereo. What problem do I get?

Another Mic 3.5 mm stereo jack, but is only in the left channel of the Cam (Headphones) signal. Is this normal?

Axo, the mic should be used for reporting purposes, ie interviews, reports, or to take the audience atmosphere if the game goes on the front.

Gruß Olli

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

"rtzbild" wrote: Hi All,

the Cam, I have chosen schonmal (XM-2, VX-2100), but not yet decided.

A good mic (Electrec) is worth good money, but what if you have erstmal use what is there, eg Shure SM 58 (XLR) or Philips ME 570 () 3.5 mm jack.

Question:
Are there any adapter for XLR mics s.3, 5mm jack?
Or vice versa?
Can I make it a part of themselves according to personal needs?

Another question:
Mic has a 3.5 mm mono jack, the input is stereo. What problem do I get?

Another Mic 3.5 mm stereo jack, but is only in the left channel of the Cam (Headphones) signal. Is this normal?

Axo, the mic should be used for reporting purposes, ie interviews, reports, or to take the audience atmosphere if the game goes on the front.

Gruß Olli


So, hello Olli,

Thus, the Shure Microphone erstmal is basically a very good microphone. I think you are s.dem XLR connector. But because you are synonymous, that there is a song microphone! ( "Kidney") Basically, you went through two Möglcihkeiten: Either you work for a adapter or via a mixer. Adapter you can buy clear or you are building you a self .. This is not the problem! The Shure Microphone is still a problem. It requires phantom power, as far as I've seen it now. That means power over one of the XLR pins on the mixer. It may be that the Microphone funktiniert synonymous on the jack (mono). while the Mirkofon but may go broke because you mono (for stereo or two) have contacts with XLR 3 contacts. That is, short-circuit! For a long time more than unhealthy.

Whether you use a microphone for voice features, you need to decide for themselves. Some microphones have a large kidney-shaped, some very small (feedback)
I have a song synonymous microphone used for the purpose. But with large, kidney-shaped and the microphone could be in the Picture! Test it easy as far as that!

Thus, the Philips ME is 570 stereo microphone. Why do you hear only mono, I do not know!? (Do you have a stereo input s.deiner Camera? Or you hear only synonymous s.PC dme left channel?) But should really go to both. The microphone is actually an extension to the built-in microphone in your camera, with better quality. It is a Richtimikrofon, with completely different properties! Atmosphere so that you can record more than with one vocal microphone. (This is synonymous with Jack! Made for camera shots so sooner!)

I tell you, that you store the products in time followed s.deine Cam (if possible) and test whether you can shoot with the vocal mic such reports, how you like!
And if you have the Richtimikrofon with good sound, if you want to make reports. (Though the microphone then you just do not see in the image, which is under or on the Camera)
The atmosphere canst thou emergency record synonymous with your camera microphone (synonymous Stereo)!

I hope I could help you

nice greeting
Constantin

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Achso and for interviews that would last a long time, I even recommend to use a lavalier microphone (clip on microphone or cape). With no cables are so expensive. By hama, there is a mono microphone for 19,90 ¬ (19,90 ¬ Stereo Microphone synonymous, I would not recommend it!) With 1m cable. (So you need either extension should be no problem) or transmitter and receiver! (That would hold back expensive!)

PS: Also, the ZDF films and has partially Lapel s.mixer connected via cable!

Lieben Gruß
Constantin

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Hi Constantin,
Thanks for your help.

Can I also use "vocal mics safely"?
Indeed, there are some who do without synonymous phantom power, but Hamse inside a battery.

Kidney: Yes, or possibly hypercardioid, the club is too specific, because I do not eavesdrop on conversations, record or birds in the wild.

What are those long pipes, which are populated with RTL, etc. Features speaks, I'd bet on the MCE 86 S II, with the conical looong Poppschützern?
I therefore addressed _zu_.

Synonymous question would be the MCE 72 CAM, with Holder, 3.5 mm jack and a long cable einklich optimal.

Adapters: Should not a Prob. be put to the XLR contacts on each pin of the jack, but what if (the two head masses! together) for L + R? In theory, nothing, right?

The Philips ME 570 is a stereo mic, but the action would proceed according Video Clips Only on the left channel, because of alleged lack Stereomics s.der Cam (MVX 30i) can be used (but has 3.5 mm stereo jack). Solder IMHO.

Gruß Olli

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Antwort von mdb:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: I think you are s.dem XLR connector. But because you are synonymous, that there is a song microphone! ( "Kidney")

Hmmm, we all Microphones with XLR connections (up to a few old stocks with Kleintuchel have, and an old Neumann synonymous with Großtuchel we have yet), but what this has to do with singing or the micro-polar pattern, I do not know.

"Blackeagle123" wrote: but still a problem. It requires phantom power, as far as I've seen it now. That means power over one of the XLR pins on the mixer. It may be that the Microphone funktiniert synonymous on the jack (mono). while the Mirkofon but may go broke because you mono (for stereo or two) have contacts with XLR 3 contacts. That is, short-circuit! Over long

Phantom power required even all 3 connections. About a latch that is synonymous. As a Micro Mono is usually only has one (with a stereo jack in this case, no stereo jack but a balanced jack) is not a problem. However, the unit must, of course, on the other Page) mixer (or Camera synonymous provide phantom power, otherwise we hear nothing.

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Antwort von Forrest:

"rtzbild" wrote:
A good mic (Electrec) is worth good money, but what if you have erstmal use what is there, eg Shure SM 58 (XLR) or Philips ME 570 () 3.5 mm jack.


The SM58 is actually, as of Constantine I said, a passable Microphone. It is a dynamic micro, ie * not * need phantom power.

You can * easily * XLR to stereo jack convert. XLR is three-wire, stereo plugs synonymous. There's also schonmal no problem at all.

When you can SM58 synonymous XLR to mono jack walk, you feel only the loss of symmetry (What is this? Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetrische_Signal%C3%BCbertragung).

Dynamische Mikros sind nicht so empfindlich wie Kondensatormikros (Elektret-Mikros sind *im Prinzip* synonymous Kondensatormikros with eigener Speisung). Das hat Vor- and Nachteile.

Vorteil: Laute Geräusche machen ihnen nix aus. Außerdem drücken sie, wenn sie sehr nahe s.die Schallquelle gehalten werden, die Umgebungsgeräusche weg. In einem Autotunnel oder in einem Club kann das Gold wert sein!

Nachteil: Es muss nah s.die Schallquelle (weil eben nicht so empfindlich). Du hast also meist das Micro im Picture. Bei Interviews mglw. okay, bei Atmo isses dann doch unschön ;)

Quote: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetrische_Signal%C3%BCbertragung).

Dynamische Mikros sind nicht so empfindlich wie Kondensatormikros (Elektret-Mikros sind *im Prinzip* synonymous Kondensatormikros with eigener Speisung). Das hat Vor- and Nachteile.

Vorteil: Laute Geräusche machen ihnen nix aus. Außerdem drücken sie, wenn sie sehr nahe s.die Schallquelle gehalten werden, die Umgebungsgeräusche weg. In einem Autotunnel oder in einem Club kann das Gold wert sein!

Nachteil: Es muss nah s.die Schallquelle (weil eben nicht so empfindlich). Du hast also meist das Micro im Picture. Bei Interviews mglw. okay, bei Atmo isses dann doch unschön ;)

Are there any adapter for XLR mics s.3, 5mm jack?
Or vice versa?
Can I make it a part of themselves according to personal needs?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetrische_Signal%C3%BCbertragung).

Dynamische Mikros sind nicht so empfindlich wie Kondensatormikros (Elektret-Mikros sind *im Prinzip* synonymous Kondensatormikros with eigener Speisung). Das hat Vor- and Nachteile.

Vorteil: Laute Geräusche machen ihnen nix aus. Außerdem drücken sie, wenn sie sehr nahe s.die Schallquelle gehalten werden, die Umgebungsgeräusche weg. In einem Autotunnel oder in einem Club kann das Gold wert sein!

Nachteil: Es muss nah s.die Schallquelle (weil eben nicht so empfindlich). Du hast also meist das Micro im Picture. Bei Interviews mglw. okay, bei Atmo isses dann doch unschön ;)



Yes, yes, yes. To save yourself a lot of money. Please do not solder just wrong. (So isses correct: http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)

Quote: http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)

Another question:
Mic has a 3.5 mm mono jack, the input is stereo. What problem do I get?
http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)



None. You hear mglw. Page just a little.

http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)

Quote: http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)

Another Mic 3.5 mm stereo jack, but is only in the left channel of the Cam (Headphones) signal. Is this normal? http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf)



If it is a mono-Micro, it can be. Perhaps it has the stereo jack, because to get out of a stereo signal, but because of the symmetrical above transfer?

Christian

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Antwort von Forrest:

Here I have time to correct a few things:)

"Blackeagle123" wrote: I think you are s.dem XLR connector. But because you are synonymous, that there is a song microphone! ( "Kidney")

Most vocal microphones (or all) are kidney, right. The SM58 is a vocal micro synonymous. But there are synonymous cardioid microphones that are not vocal mics) (badges, the Japanese on the camera. So it has basically nüscht to do with each other. And out of the XLR-Male can not conclude that already exist.

Quote: The Shure Microphone is still a problem. It requires phantom power, as far as I've seen it now. That means power over one of the XLR pins on the mixer. It may be that the Microphone funktiniert synonymous on the jack (mono). while the Mirkofon but may go broke because you mono (for stereo or two) have contacts with XLR 3 contacts. That is, short-circuit! For a long time more than unhealthy.

Here it is quite powerful but dimly. The SM58 does not need phantom power (yes, I've already written). Phantom power is not transmitted via a pin, but between two signal lines. The Micro works quite sure about mono, but just asymmetrical. Were's one with power, it would not work at all on mono. When you have mono), two contacts (signal, ground, 2xSignal at Sereo three (,) mass. Stereo jack and XLR are equivalent (of the mechanical properties apart). The short circuit is synonymous with the very adventurous.

Quote: Whether you use a microphone for voice features, you need to decide for themselves. Some microphones have a large kidney-shaped, some very small (feedback)

Feedback? Because you sound about Lautsrecher abhörst?

Hmm. Christian

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Antwort von Forrest:

"rtzbild" wrote: Kidney: Yes, or possibly hypercardioid, the club is too specific, because I do not eavesdrop on conversations, record or birds in the wild.

This maybe one. The Reporter-purpose weapon is the Sennheiser MKH 416th And this has what characteristic? True, the thighs. For interviews very well. For Atmos's is synonymous to be very good if you just do not want to have the whole forest, but above all the rustling of the hedgehog (the residual noise is indeed synonymous not completely gone, but just much quieter).

Quote: Adapters: Should not a Prob. be put to the XLR contacts on each pin of the jack, but what if (the two head masses! together) for L + R? In theory, nothing, right?

Then your leadership is balanced line out (your camera can thus begin before, but nothing, therefore, is synonymous of no preference).

Christian

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Antwort von Markus:

"Olli" rtzbild "" wrote: Are there any adapter for XLR mics s.3, 5mm jack?
Hello Olli,

looking at you once the XLR adapter of BeachTekXL1s + Beachtek DXA-6)

"Olli" rtzbild "" wrote: Or vice versa?
There are the so-called DI boxes. (-> What is a DI box?)

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hello! So that did not mean that you can see on the XLR, it's a vocal microphone. But one can recognize the fact that it comes only s.ein mischpult. As with most music systems is the case. Gesangsmikrofon course one can not recognize it! If synonymous extremely stupid words!

And when one walks on XLR jack that is no problem. Problem gibts nur s.mixer if phantom power s.ist, you join a Micro, which was converted to handle. Then there namely, a short circuit in the device. So I'm at least with the professionals of Session (company, "Wetten Dass ...?" with" sound ", microphones / speakers, etc., equips learned).

And what singing Micro is concerned: As I said, there are those that have been specially equipped so that there is no feedback, that is, one must ran very close to the Micro can while standing in front of a near synonymous Lautsprächer. There are synonymous which, as you can keep more distance. Synonymous and I have said that we should try this;)

Constantin

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

And the Micro requires no phantom power, I was wrong!
And I have made of stereo 3, 2 and mono me out of the current passes through more than just a pin.

Many errors ... Sorry! (but it was a matter of principle to him ...)

Love Greetings
Constantin

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf One question I have to do so. What speaker cables are not shielded?

Greeting, Constantin

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

or what happens when the speaker cable used as a microphone cable? If only the symmetry gone?
Respectively. what is, if you have a Balanced microphone cable used as speaker cable? Nothing, right?

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Antwort von mdb:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: or what happens when the speaker cable used as a microphone cable? If only the symmetry gone?
Respectively. what is, if you have a Balanced microphone cable used as speaker cable? Nothing, right?


Theoretically, handed me a two-core twisted cable with symmetrical cable routing (still occasionally seen as radio counterparts with Nagra: twisted bell wire with banana plugs). Since it needs no shielding, that's the great advantage of symmetric interconnect technology, which cancel out the scattered interference s.end. Virtually recommended at low voltages a microphone then but a shield.

The mic cable as speaker cable has too much resistance because they are too thin, so that one can not transfer large benefits (for 1000 W PMPO Plastkbrüllwürfel I've microphone cable used)

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Antwort von mdb:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: http://www.musik-produktiv.de/service/02_extras/richtiggepolt.pdf One question I have to do so. What speaker cables are not shielded?



Should you come up with the idea to move the speaker wires somewhere, where appropriate voltages and currents prevail (it could in substations and so), then a shield to be meaningful. That which is usually scattered, you can simply stop listening anymore because it no longer increased (in contrast to the microphone cable)

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Antwort von Forrest:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: So that did not mean that you can see on the XLR, it's a vocal microphone. But one can recognize the fact that it comes only s.ein mischpult.

Can we not do so. Almost all professional cameras have XLR inputs are synonymous. Because you need in principle, no mixers.

Quote: Problem gibts nur s.mixer if phantom power s.ist, you join a Micro, which was converted to handle. Then there namely, a short circuit in the device. So I'm at least with the professionals of Session (company, "Wetten Dass ...?" with" sound ", microphones / speakers, etc., equips learned).

I can not understand. Are you sure that you do not there-and now Phantom Tonaderspeisung confusing? If not, you can do that with the short running time a bit more detail?

Christian

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

And the cameras have XLR, so true ^ ^ But even there, is usually connected to the mixer via XLR, so you s.der Camera for ausglecihen not so shaky ... But when Jack is in principle exactly the same!
The short circuit as far as I know in the mixer, I am thinking of just where there arises if the microphone requires no electricity ... For further details, I do not know the mom, sorry! Going away this weekend, but I write when I'm back home!

Love Greetings And have a nice weekend
Constantin

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Antwort von Forrest:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: And the cameras have XLR, so true ^ ^ But even there, is usually connected to the mixer via XLR, so you s.der Camera for ausglecihen not so shaky ...

Already clear to me they went there now only a matter of principle.

Bye, Christian

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Antwort von Jan:

XLR to Jack, I have even in my Saturn of the company Skymaster synonymous not prohibitively expensive. One can argue about the quality, but a Eigenbau of borrowing is no longer synonymous poke.

January

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Hey,
've googled and even more here XLR -AdapterkabelIMHO _das_ was ich suchte.
Nun brauche ich praktisch nur noch ein "selbstgespeistes" Mic with interner Stromquelle, das wars dann.
as I have noticed today, is a stereo mic (Philips SBC ME 570) in reports or sports events for more than a nuisance, something has turned his hand or the Mic "is not correct rum" kept the canals are reversed and the audience as confused.

How do you do with the reports?
Monaural microphone omnidirectional, cardioid, club?
Capacitor Electrec?

Gruß Olli


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Antwort von Forrest:

"rtzbild" wrote: How do you do with the reports?
Monaural microphone omnidirectional, cardioid, club?
Capacitor Electrec?


In our reports are always mono, which is probably synonymous standard, because almost all the cameras are working in dual channel audio spectrum: one for the sound made by the Tonassi (interviews, sometimes synonymous atmosphere), the second is for the Japanese, the micro-camera (). This will auto Driven and atmosphere is there, or as a backup.

Whether omnidirectional, cardioid or club depends on the application. Atmosphere completely? Then, of course ball. Atmosphere, but with special attention to one direction (eg, in which the camera is directed)? Kidney or lobe. Interviews? The best club.

The kidney is a very good compromise.

Bye, Christian

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Antwort von Markus:

"Olli" rtzbild "" wrote: ... and here the XLR -Adapterkabel gefunden.
Hallo Olli,

with dem o.g. Klinke- XLR -Adapterkabel lässt sich zwar ein symmetrisches XLR -Microphone s.einen unsymmetrischen Camcorders-Mikrofoneingang anschließen, doch dann ist die Symmetrie auf der gesamten Kabelstecke weg. D.h. Einsteuungen bei der Übertragung löschen sich nicht mehr aus, sondern werden genau wie das Nutzsignal verstärkt. Im schlimmsten Falle (je nach Kabellänge) zeichnest Du dann irgend einen Radiosender auf...

"Christian" Forrest "" wrote: In our reports are always mono, which is probably synonymous standard, ...
That is correct. Newscaster and comments from the off are always mono, that is distributed to both stereo channels equally and without any territorial change.

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Hi All,

that's insane, because what we all must respect, symmetrical / unsymmetrical, ... I'm going to get the Cam erstmal, possibly synonymous, I climbed on to wireless.

Question of what is of the "cheap" Chinese Radio mikes "Pro-339" with 3.5 mm jack held, offered in ebay?
Has anyone something?

Gruß Olli

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Antwort von Elenex:

"rtzbild" wrote: Hey,
've googled and here even more XLR found adapter cable.
IMHO _das_ what I was looking for.
Now I need practically only a "Self-powered" mic with internal power source, that's it then.

Gruß Olli


I would like to put together this set for my SonyFX1! (; because only s.FX1 mini jack)

T.bone Em-9600 http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tbone_em_9600.htm
XLR to mini-jack adapter http://www.thomann.de/de/cae_20035_kamerakabel.htm

All would work?
of about +48 V phantom power or 1.5V battery?
plus the adapter jack on 3.5?
kapput me is because the micro? or I just get a mono signal?

I hope someone can help me!
from all the entries would not be smart.

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

A very valuable contribution. Thank you! =)

It's simple: Do you want a good sound, accept no cheap crap. Especially not with "jack socket", which is unbalanced. Thus, you have that because of bad microphones and a noise may have an additional loop hum (due to power the camera or light, etc.).

I recommend Neumann or Schoeps. ;-) No, in earnest: Look at Thomann, usnach Rode!

Best regards,


Constantin

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