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Frage von done:


Hi,

I've got a week since the problem that if I am with the XM2 include most of the material not on the tape can be reproduced.
I film mostly while skiing a week ago and is the first time the problem occurred. That was synonymous for the first time that I am the new "cheap" Battery've used (BP-945), but I do not believe that it is s.Battery, since this is fully operational. (Only as a marginal Info).

The problem manifests itself like this: I film quite normal throughout the day and evening if I want to the material (synonymous to another camera) is the first time play nothing on the tape. The second time is a little chunk of it but often with broken lines and the third time around and play out and then maybe herspulen times 5-10 seconds completely.
I use the Sony Premium tapes (DVM60PR3) and have never been synonymous others, there was never synonymous to "Remove the cassette" error.
A new tape I have already filed synonymous: the same problem.

If, however, I now here in front of the PC just a little bit and then rumfilm, then does it without any problems.

At the cold while skiing have been synonymous, I thought this could be a possible reason synonymous been the first time, since there was about -11 degrees.
However, at the 2nd times had to film it may be 5 ° C + sunshine.

Is now perhaps a bit more detail and maybe someone already had the same problem and can help me next.
On other tapes would change ne way, but I've since been synonymous much drüber read that you should not do.

MfG

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Antwort von Dongball:

We had the same problem synonymous times.

We had recorded with the XM1 and tried it on another camera clip. Only gestotter.
The problem was solved when we both in the Canon of Movie Studio next to Frame Mode switches have.
Apparently some other cameras come with the full screen of the Canon is not clear ...

Also, we had dann mal strips & disturbances in the Picture ... even a Reinigunscassette used and the problem was fixed.

I would try both times as if it still does not work you can at least by the error.

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Antwort von Bamboo:

Yes the problem is that the XM2 the material itself is not synonymous play. So I think it's more of a recording Feher, no preference in which mode. But I try out, thanks.
The thing is, if I rumfilm here, and everything goes so I can watch.

The cartridge with the cleaning: I've already heard of many people and synonymous here read that so ne cleaning cartridge fatal for the camera can be.

But thank you, I will in any case, times in mind.

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Antwort von Dongball:

Quote: with the cleaning cartridge: I've already heard of many people and synonymous here read that so ne cleaning cartridge fatal for the camera can be.

Yes, if you have the thing go through it for hours:)

A Reinigunstape has an approximately 10 times more abrasion than a normal band.
Since you only partially 10Sekunden drinlässt claim thou hast the drum no more than if you are on a 'normal' tape a few minutes aufnimmst.

Surely you should not be all week as a tape, but I've never heard of someone's drive of one-time use of a Reinungungstapes destroyed. If there is someone there, there was certainly there was certainly more than dirt in the game;)

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Antwort von Johannes:

Hello
such a problem änliges gabs here ever
http://forum.slashcam.de/problem-with-canon-xl1s-vt43931.html

John

ps: good slip

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Antwort von done:

Thank you, exactly this problem, it is actually.

Well, so it's the cold or the condensation. However, I do not know what I should do now that I can prevent the whole.
Reinigungstape just a pass through, as I have recommended, or a heated bag? I've been a very good pocket, which keeps the temperature, ie when it is cold outside and I go into heat, it remains cool inside the bag and it should not normally condensation.
And I not even really think that the condensation was because I was on the runway before a short filmed Studio wanted to look at a few settings to change. And of course there was not.

Well, I just hope that Cam does not damage it has suffered, so should not really be the case if they are now functioning properly.

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Antwort von done:

Now I was again in s.Wochenende snow on me and is an important material s.Menge lost, precisely because of this error.
It was now time ne synonymous really good, gave no error anymore. And this time it has almost one hour not unnoticed. Hak So here I am again.
I am now about really Reinigungstape times a durchlaufenzulassen and of the "bad voice" Sony tapes to convert others.
If that does not help, then I send the camera most times really to Canon. Because in principle it can not be that the Cam at +5 ° and sunshine on the mountain reacts sensitive to cold. I treated it as synonymous a raw egg, always well treated, well packaged, driving very very carefully to avoid shock when I need to transport times, etc.
So my question:
Can I do if I constantly used the Sony tapes have easily switch to other tapes? Have since read quite a bit, on the other hand, what speaks alla "remove the cassette" error ...
Which tapes you recommend? I've just about these Sony tapes read that they are any wet lubricant on the tape and I have considered that they might therefore be somewhat sensitive to cold.
The heated with lights my pocket, but gives me little when I use the Camera did.

Hope someone can help me, is really important because I now am in the snow and something I can no longer afford.

Thank you!

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Antwort von done:

EDIT: I should register me something;)

Wanted to add that out and once again briefly what has been recorded but this is interrupted by stripes or were distorted.

Regards

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Antwort von DWUA:

When (not so cheap) XM2, we would in any case a
qualified service inspection rather wish
than any dubious "Cleaning Tape"
as a tooth or Klobürste or similar. Not recommended!

In the economy, in politics or showbiz running without lubricant
nothing more is known.
But at some tapes we were previously unknown; /

Many synonymous much more expensive cameras have trouble
Shooting at minus temperatures. This is in the operating instructions will
often not perceived.

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Antwort von Rob65:

Hello,

I have my XM2 until recently a full day plus half the night through Venice towed, and there's the season synonymous saukalt and especially the humidity is very high there ;-) The Cam was only by a thin Raincoat protected, otherwise always times mummelig under my jacket packed. It has everything but uncomplainingly join and flawless recordings. Even the pictures of the boat taxis are made from flawless, the Comparison of times to go skiing (wind etc.). A few weeks earlier I had problems, however, once in a very very long recording, here I had to record in LP mode (2x 80, 1x 60iger, all in a row). The first tape I had then as later on when capturing heraustellte so s.25min until about 35min slight image error, the following tapes were again flawless. Either I had with the first tape, or simply bad luck with the following just luck, a Reinigungscassette I've used but in spite of everything (15sec, because the last cleaning was forever ago) and as described further problems since then no more, however, were not synonymous LP recordings here.
I would say with a try Reinigungscassette BEFORE the skiing and the outdoors Cam extensively tested. Submit it, you can in case of errors still.

Gruss
Rob

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Antwort von DWUA:

And what makes a "Cleaning Tape", except the microscopic
small, statically charged "filth" being only evenly distribute?
Nothing!
Except perhaps very sensitive to damage parts!
Because there are better methods that remove.
Nix to yourself. Especially not when expensive, very expensive cameras.

After "cleaning" good (dv) tapes (DVCAM coming here
not available) use:
Such as: AY-DVM63AMQ etc.

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Antwort von szymek:

The main reason can probably be cleaned only with Canon directly, or?
I will therefore, in principle, no other choice than it first with a Reinigungstape to try, because I will soon return the camera needs.
Be it but in any case, change to the recommended tapes.

If it is known whether the cleaning under "warranty" is running? Since the camera is not even one year old, so should usually work.

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Antwort von szymek:

No.. Basic cleaning is not even after 14 days warranty. As the Manufacturer so synonymous for nothing ... a recorded 100 tapes in two weeks, another comes in 4 years does not turn.

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Antwort von Shao Diese:

I know all too well, this problem scheiss! We are equal to 2 of 3 XM2 which have this problem. We also filmed in the snow while snowboarding. one of the cameras was approximately one year in service, well, has apparently not put too much! reinigungstape I've already used synonymous, but in the long-not much, and too much should these tapes are not used.

we have yet considered, heat makes the bag to wrap cams?!

as it is now but with the changeover to other tapes? we have until now always synonymous of sony premium tapes used .... is the problem, or it would be a useful service?

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Antwort von done:

So now I have times a Reinigungstape can go through and have bought new tapes, the Panasonic tapes. Are Expensive sack;)

In each instance klappts at least for now here at home again with the shooting and playback. Bin jetzt mal gespannt. On the weekend I'm back in the snow, ich werd dann mal report pointed looks.

Thermal bag? Well, my theory still is that with the Sony tapes and the lubricant.
I've only now concerns that this evil "Remove the Cassette" error occurs. Let's see.

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Antwort von Markus:

"DWUA" wrote: And what makes a "Cleaning Tape", in addition to the microscopic, static charged "filth" being only evenly distribute?
Nothing!

Formerly synonymous times I had an aversion to these strange cleaning cartridges. Since there was synonymous only these belts, which previously has moistened with isopropyl alcohol. Since the meeting with the distribution of synonymous probably very good.

Meanwhile, I have changed my mind, not least because in the meantime something has done. Cleaning cartridges should now use the same technology such as micro fiber cloths and keep the dirt so synonymous, without damaging the surface.

Among the many foreign bands, which in my video equipment to run, I have the time with more and more image defects to know and always new cleaning strategies. And a cleaning cartridge nunmal is one of the possible options - and none at all bad, as I've now found.

On the advice of a long-time professionals, I use it only cleaning cartridges of Sony, while in my MiniDV camcorders are now a priority of Panasonic tapes-run.

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Antwort von DWUAE:

And how it looks with the cleaning of cleaning cartridges?
From when Vollwaschgang?
Microfibre maximum we use for our housing.
Since no experience of the inner life.
In (our) "bitches" yes.
But you apply the above synonymous with your 170 and up to?

You realize that we are awaiting a response.
Even 200 and the rest of today.

;)))

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Antwort von Markus:

"DWUAE" wrote: And how it looks with the cleaning of cleaning cartridges?
From when Vollwaschgang?

So do you, as a cleaning cartridge can be reused? - The answer is simple: Not at all. The tape will be thrown away when it arrived s.Ende. Since one such tape, but only 10 seconds per run, so keep a tape for a while.

"DWUAE" wrote: But you apply the above synonymous with your 170 and up to?
Should I decide for XDCAM HD, no more cleaning cartridges needed. ;-)

The PD170 was not yet needed cleaning. Currently, a TR2000 (Hi8) and a TRV310 (D8) duration of the user 8mm cleaning cartridge. A MiniDV cleaning cassette is ready for the TRV900, with the absence of cheaper I still synonymous defective recorder MiniDVs gecapturet / copy did. There was, logically, have occasionally required a cleaning.

But to your question: Yes, I would make the cleaning tape synonymous incorporate the PD170. If Picture Tonfehler and occur quickly and it must go, there is also no great alternative.

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Antwort von uffnik1:

Hi done,

am here in the forum to your problem, and apparently annoyed me with the same problem around.
No recording, strip and strangely synonymous Sony tapes.

http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?t=47984

Do you have your problem under control, brought Reinigungskasette what? Tapes and what do you use now?

Tobi

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