Infoseite // canon HV 30 only 720i via HDMI



Frage von kurz:


Hello,
'm pretty annoyed because I have been trying days of my Canon HV 30
HDMI s.einem Dell 2709 monitor play, but always
only in 720i instead of 1080i to get.
Did the Forum has long been studied, but no answer found.
The Manual states that the HV 30 regulates its output depending on what
is connected. Nice, but what are the criteria?
Would be nice if someone knows Council
Thank you very much

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Antwort von WoWu:

Quote: only in 720i instead of 1080i to get.

720i does not exist. Check that again ...

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Antwort von kurz:

Hi Wolfgang,
You've obviously right, it must mean 576i, I'm in the site
not so fit, what do I do now, everything post again, or with the
Errors do next?

Apart from that my resolves what not.

So HDV material via the HDMI output only in 720 x 576
out and not in 1440 x 1080.
What can the problem be? Settings, I have several
tested, swapped cables, other monitor made nix helps.

Greeting briefly

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hello shortly ..
No of course not a new post with your problem but you do not really come next.
Does the HV30 a menu where you choose the output format can ... and it is now possibly on SD?
With an HDMI 1440 format can not do anyway, only with an interpolated format 1080, the Camera will have to spend as 1080. Then does it synonymous.

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Antwort von kurz:

Hi Wolfgang,
Yes there is a menu and here it is HDV,
as I said, the settings, I have repeatedly checked.

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Antwort von WoWu:

This would be for me now mean that the HDMI on the camera is unable to 1080, but only 1440 or greater.
By 1440 you'll get nothing but HDMI. Only with 720p50 or 1080i25.
Also in Blu-ray does not HDV.
You must therefore somehow to 1080 interpolated.
And I imagine it did not really imagine that the camera because there is no signal creates 1080er. The specs of the HV30 unfortunately synonymous give no information.
Jan might know ... looks like this, Jan, what is given to the HDMI?

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Antwort von Jitter:

Your problem is known to me. I have other PC monitors with the same experience. Once you define your HV 30 with an LCD television or projector connect, is exactly the 1080i output. It is s.Verständigungsproblemen between the PC and monitor. HDMI is obviously in the classic video -/Fernsehbereich something different than the PC monitor.

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Antwort von WoWu:

There may, of course synonymous s.der HDCP capability of the equipment and put the HV30 is programmed so that when an HDCP capability is not present, only SD s.Output lies. That is now for the HV30 just a guess, but for HD satellite receiver is, or switching off of the HD output and switching the analog outputs on SD, normal.

I would be in this context, synonymous times interested in what comes out of the HV30, if they have HDMI s.einer cut depends card ...??

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

The I / O handshaking works do not stop, the monitor is definitely the culprit ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

Only interesting to note that the camera then moves to SD. That includes quite an HDMI capture presumably entirely.

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

It is not to capture, he wants to nit camera via HDMI-HDMI-O s.einen I monitor connected.

It works with my HV30 and the BENQ E2200HD einwandfrei.

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Antwort von ruessel:

Quote: That includes quite an HDMI capture presumably entirely.


No, with a HDMI capture hardware (BM Intensity) works in the capture of the HV30 HD flawlessly.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Quote: s does not capture the
It is already clear to me that when the initial question, no question.

When the camera but the handshake does this means but in conclusion, that the BM Intensity contains an active copy, including all keys, if the handshake correctly implements.
Aimed my question.

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Antwort von kurz:

hallo s.alle,
have responded so far. So clever I'm not
become. Wolfgang says with! 440 and HDMI would not work,
Hennek says go with him, so now what?
It is a gamble whether it is or not?
The difference between 1080i and 1440x1080, I have not understood synonymous, it would be nice if someone could answer the HV 30
well known.
Above all, nobody has suggested anything that the problem
fixes. If the problem is known but should be possible.

Greeting briefly

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Brief

Excuse the mess but it seems to run out to that the HDCP copy protection by your monitor is not supported.
The HDMI interface, but includes the copy protection.
It is a connection between camera and monitor set up a dialog that allows, if necessary, a transfer to occur.
The transmission is possible, requires that both devices and this dialogue can build as synonymous with the appropriate Keys can negotiate with each other.
Only then can transmit signals.
Now it looks as if your monitor this HDCP "handshake" does not build. (Bruno says, with his BENQ E2200HD working there. But you have a Dell 2709)
This would make your monitor is not capable (at least) HD signals from the camera to receive, or more accurately, your Camera suppresses the signals.
Some Camera go to SD instead of HD.
This is the copy protection so provided. Also, that HD analog signals on the other interfaces are not as HD input.
I hope this was something "decrypted".

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Antwort von kurz:

Hi Wolfgang,
Thank you for the "decryption", which means I will be so
need to live only half Resolutionzu see.
Is there possibly some sort of "box" that hangs between the HV 30 says they should but the full Resolutionrausgeben?

danke gruß briefly

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hello shortly ...
Mir is not a "box" if known and HDCP correctly in the camera is implemented (which I expect), it becomes difficult to be synonymous, although the owner of such equipment so this mechanism is really wrong and to meet the legitimate objection leads that the usability is quite restricted.
Perhaps there is for the Dell 2709 one firmware update, which it does HDCP capable.
I would - and with reference to the limited availability times on the DELL Support "begin".
I think they would at least give a hint, if the monitor is only a limited capability HDMI aufweist.
(This will of course now that the "Forum-diagnosis" is correct ... but that should be synonymous on the support solved)

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Antwort von Jitter:

I'm pretty sure the problem is not connected with the copy protection. If you have 20/30 HV YUV with the VGA port connects a PC (this requires a) shows the same phenomenon: It's PAL Resolutionan.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Jitter

That is precisely defined and HDCP switching the analog outputs on SD is a consequence of the lack of handshakes.
It depends directly together!

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Antwort von kurz:

Hello,
I would like to note that the HV 30 on the component
output 1080i output, which both see as synonymous at
Dell 2709 to read.
The catch is, however, the picture quality, überstrahlt white, black säuft from
and the colors are oversaturated, perhaps the signal for beamer
thought? From abzugreifenden extra sound I do not speak

gruß briefly

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Antwort von Nowawes:

Read times in the "thick manual" on p.42 and p. 74 for (I have everything on automatic stand) - but certainly you've already done. On the subject of study HDCP times S.75 very top! HDCP plays a role in the HV30. Perhaps your Dell does not support HDCP. On my Hyundai W240D my HV30 and everything works perfectly. The Camera scaled to 1920x1080i via HDMI, internal, however, she works in the HD format with 1440x1080i or 1440x1080p, depending on the setting.

Gruss,
Uwe

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Antwort von gregorw:

The cable HD-Fury can bypass HDCP:
Eg http://konsolenprofis.de/sess/utn; jsessionid = 154985c96587b46/shopdata/0160_PlayStation3/0040_PS3 + accessories = F6r/product_details.shopscript? Article = 0030_PS3% 2BZubeh% 3DF6r% 2B% 2BHD-Fury% 2B% 3D28MM0026% 3D29

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