Infoseite // how is that with the "AVCHD-in"?



Frage von alfmo:


Hello, dear Slashcam community,
I have until now in my videos to DV, s.PC cut, the cut version on the camcorder is played back ( "master tape") and then maybe if needed a DVD burned.
For years I read all popular video magazines, but still have no idea whether this is synonymous with AVCHD camcorders work, ie the export of cut film back to the camcorder in HD resolution. Some camcorders will have a digital video input, such as the Canon HF 11 or HG 20/21, the HF 100 has obviously not him. A few years ago was the lack of a DV input for a camera is a real shortcoming, the report was always large, now seems to be "not an old p. .." to show an interest.
And when the camcorder a digital video input, is the editing software is able to perform the export, and if on a SDHC card back wants to play, I need to have a camcorder, or go with the PC and card reader?
Who here already has experience? To answer, I would be grateful, then I would switch to HD calmed.

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Antwort von domain:

What sense, the return games on the disk because the Camera still have today?
Is it enough in other ways, directly from your PC to work.
The only important thing is the saving on multiple redundant disk and the regular Umkopieren at risk of obsolescence of the storage media or technology changes.

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Antwort von alfmo:

Hello, "domain",
Thank you for your contribution, but do you have against me only one question and therefore not answered my question, but what `s will:
I think flash memory for the ideal medium for archiving, such as for transportation. Why should I have a laptop with me rumschleppen, or give me a AVCHD - or Bluraybrenner have to buy and why should I not worry about what you have a digital video input can be used, but if he is offered some camcorders. I am not among those who find anything great, what the industry wants to sell, for example, camcorder without Zoomwippe, aperture ring, viewfinders. Perhaps some will find it good if the industry's camcorder sometime sold without a tripod thread, but this is in the era of image stabilizers out of date .....

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Antwort von domain:

There are not really mature AVCHD H.264 encoder software NLEs in the back and play on your camcorder is likely synonymous such a problem, but did not so closely watched, because too expensive for me and my data sets and a play on the camcorder itself synonymous me not irritating.
A possible alternative, I see the little, however, currently available
http://shop.strato.de/epages/61238048.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61238048/Products/5029
inc 1 TB hard drive and an additional 1 TB external USB hard drive for backup

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Antwort von Alan Smithee:

That there is no "AVCHD-in" there is s.der different kind and manner in which the video data on the storage media are stored.

While the video tape formats, only one data stream is not a kind of file system is organized in memory are the video data into files in a file system are organized, managed. They behave like hard disks, you can optionally access to files. Therefore it makes no sense, a raw data stream as a DV / HDV camera in the Camera zurückzuschreiben, but you write just a file like a hard drive on the card back.

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Antwort von alfmo:

Hello, Allan Smithee.
thank you for your response, with the return letter to me as a file is lit, which means but synonymous, that the file on the PC and corresponding software (codec) may be synonymous with no digital video input to the SDHC card and thus could bring the camcorder , the corresponding decoder software provided, such as "domain" really says. According to the latest "active digital video", the new Corel VideoStudio Pro X2 export as AVCHD File dominate.
Thanks everybody, I'm next s.dem interested and for further suggestions and experiences appreciated.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hello Alfmo,

... because I would now not so sure that it will work ....
Certainly you can file for all potential applications, thus making of the disc, via iTunes to YouTube but the files are all some kind of player.
The Camera expected but still a lot of metadata about what they are on the card will once again, play it synonymous. the file starts at the Partitioning and ultimately ends in the BadBlock information. In between there are lots of "kamer specific stuff." This entire folder structure and its contents should be of your software (for each camera) are mastered, because you can not simply of the EX1 a card in the HF 100 stuck. Time, quite apart from the card.
So before you go now, and you buy software, rather try it first with a trial from.

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Antwort von domain:

The best you forget your concerns completely Alfmo.
Hast thou with Super8 camera back to the play?
Na also, there has been synonymous own projector needed.
The SD video and HDV synonymous with later re-emerging possibility of a game was indeed an achievement, but now you can simply forget. Is much more elegant ways.

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Antwort von alfmo:

Hello Wolfgang, hello "domain",
thank you for your concerns, but I note that Canon, however, without much advertising is to make the HF 11 a digital video input provides the HF 10 and HF 100 do not (synonymous sure why the price jump, probably because of the higher import was already time to DV so). And what should be a digital input as well, if he is not yet synonymous cut videos can absorb, so we returned to the play option on the camcorder would have landed. It illuminates not just me that a camcorder HDMI and Component Connections Connections offers the only disorderly recording material on an expensive HD television off, but not a finished cut video (I assume that most readers Slashcam their synonymous edit videos!). The fact that some of AVCHD camcorders have a digital video input status, in-camera database of "videoaktiv.de" evidence, unfortunately, not yet in the database Slashcam (!), And why should he be good?
Greetings, everybody!
Alfred
PS: Sorry for my persistence!

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hi Alfred.
That's right, what you say, but you have to very carefully consider what kind of an input is and what signals to be transmitted.
There are very significant differences (but synonymous overlaps) with respect to the signals between USB and IEEE1394, for example, HDMI or SDI.
The question is always, how can a camcorder with the signals bypass.
On HDMI, for example, is a (digital) signal, but not coded, but rather a signal that the camcorder would only costly rework before the contents were saved. For IEEE1394 looks again very different. USB should be compared with the files which are transferred to the Fileanforderungen correspond precisely to the camcorder, so the NLE "mund just" be prepared ... an undertaking that is technically possible, but no Manufacturer NLE reasonable.
You see, it is with "digital input" alone does not say anything.
On a forum I have read about that a user actually synonymous his material back into the camera has. (I think the contribution is not back), but I can still remember that this is a fairly "Husarenritt" and other users was not so readily able to reproduce.
So, just times that it was not. As is the search for a suitable alternative player already useful.
Especially since there are now so hard with an integrated player and remote control devices to be connected s.TV that are synonymous "only" around 130 euro cost.
Since hardly worth the effort, the material is synonymous again on the memory card back to write.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

It simply makes no sense synonymous to the camcorder with cut material to block - their own player, there are certainly a lot of goals, solutions are now really so many (TViX, popcorn, all the Blu Ray player, etc. etc.)

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Antwort von tommyb:

Because it is in today's age makes no sense.

Man buys his HD camcorder's HD-Television and its HD player.

Man cuts his films s.PC, she plays on a DVD (whether in SD or HD is sausage, special DVDs with HD stream that are of some current BluRay player playable) and is good.

The small part of humanity from its pure old habit of her videos on the tape played to them with the Camera s.TV to watch - was the easy wegrationalisiert. Then again it makes no sense simply a function anzupreisen extra if it is always there anyway. Or you can to the memory of a digital camera photos and some videos do not push it? Such cards have always been 2way, that was the capture of DV is not necessarily so.

Your Camera submit a clip to a single file. If it really is so simple, then you download a demo version of a video software download, export AVCHD back to your camera and is good. That will work, or just not synonymous - the reason Wolfgang has been described.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Alfred wondering yes synonymous only way I have understood him, that things are no longer possible, the earlier times worked, especially since an interface is present.
Because his question was just: "How is the with the" AVCHD-in
And that we just try to give him a clear answer to give when it is synonymous, synonymous like Tommy and Wolfgang say it actually makes no sense.
But I can just synonymous imagine that someone, perhaps a holiday contribution has made this synonymous happy times with friends and do not wish to perform anywhere in the presence of a BluRay player hits, but rather look at a new TV ... So there are already reasons, such contributions to the finished card to save.

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Antwort von Modellbahner:

Hello, that was me. I've tried to play as the HF100 device. Meanwhile I am losing again, but because the effort is substantial. I currently burn AVCHD DVD on my SonyBlu-ray player to run perfectly.

Quote: Hello,
Like most of you know from various forums, I'm still on the lookout for a way to cut finished movies on my HF100 Camera back playing. Previously I had found no way, except with the Canon program ImageMixer3. This program is also wanting. Now, I have been able, with other programs edited videos (PowerDirector 7) back playing. The process proved very slow, for a 20min film about 3 hours. But it works!

To date: The finished with PD7 file was created as a "BDAV (for video)" in a folder. From here in the library of Image Writer Invite and then edit with the program (movie) and save it. Then, the finished files to the library. From here, it may then click the Camera zurückgespeichert be. After completion Camera off and then on again without the USB cable to the Playback mode. Then the video can be played.
Attention to the Camera Picture Monitor looks something funny somehow fits the format is not so true. On the flat screen TV, after setting the format, everything is fine. Also, I have the chip on a borrowed PS3 plays everything ok. Why in the Camera Monitor the format was not right somehow, no idea. But it goes!

Gruß Bernd.

From the Ruhr area

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Antwort von WoWu:

Jau, Bernd,
Yes, that's it, thank you for this ... you'll see how small is the world.

Greetings to the Ruhr area

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Antwort von alfmo:

Hello Wolfgang (WoWu), Hi Bernd,
Thank you for your contributions, synonymous sure that you take me in a protective, rather Wolfgang! The contribution of Bernd yes synonymous shows that it works with a few tricks, synonymous if the procedure is not exactly "as en passant" it makes. I also agree with the contribution that it is synonymous with an HF 100 works (currently about 600 euros, I would have hoped ausgeguckt!) Whether I use this function again will I do not know, maybe I make it as your all and put me a Bluray burner and possibly an additional Bluray player, because obviously not every software can be a AVCHD file to a hard player off!. I am glad that there are video counterparts, the question synonymous seriously and try to answer these expertly. A "that is no longer up to date" and nothing else I would have been too little.
Greetings!
Alfred

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