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Frage von LarsProgressiv:


Hello readers,

looking for an exchange of information, I thought I could start a topic views.
It's my idea of an optimal camera, which with today's technology could be realized.

Possibly. seems to be reading one or another Manufacturer synonymous with and builds what me and possibly synonymous you a purchase would be worth it.

I'm an ambitious amateur filmmakers and films mainly my family.

So here are the key figures (for my desire camera; will be updated):

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- Micro Four Thirds System interchangeable lens with OIS as
- (10-12 megapixels sensor, 16:10 or 16:9)
- Light Sensitivity Auto | manual: 100 | 200 | 400 | 800 | 1600 | 3200
- Exposure: Auto | Iris Auto | Auto Time | manual: long | 1 / (; 25 | 30 | 50 | 60 | 75 | 90 | 100 | 120 | 150 | 180 |???)
- White balance: auto | manual | 4 programmable memory


- 720p25 and 720p30 and 720p50 possibly even
- (; Possibly 1080p25 and 720p60, 1080p30?)
- H264 to MP4 | MOV or AVCHD

- Folding and-swivel display with min. 3 "diagonal of the sensor size and min. 450 k Pixels, 100% frame
- (; Switchable viewfinder with 1.44 million pixels, as eq Lumix GH1?)

- Function simple Photo
- Hot shoe

- Integr. Micro (; mono, orientation to the object)
- Handles (Mic; headroom than zus Soundtrack)
- (Headphone output soundtrack changeable)


- (Pistol grip, screw or camera format)
- Min. (4 well achievable, fully programmable keys, or joystick directions, such as Sanyo Xacti HDx000)
- Mini-USB connector

- SDHC as storage media
- IR (remote control with a rudimentary function, start-stop, shutter, zoom)
- Removable Li-Ion Battery

- Edit: a maximum weight of 400g (; without Lens)
- Edit: with lens still in tourist Size
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Edit: And to keep all times in the context of: I wanted to spend a maximum of 800 ¬ without a lens.

What do you think?

Regards Lars

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Antwort von Hans Huckebein:

OK, I'll do with time, and I hereby express my desire spider Camera:

Housing: Should be a Henkelmann, very stable and compact, every important feature should be accessible outside of fast, and although large, robust switches / buttons. In addition, many options should be given to cultivate accessories.

Sensor: I'd like APS-C, but only so high resolution that it is enough for HD, but with ordinary riiiiichtig sensitivity to light, which I can not really have enough. If the problem with the rolling shutter is properly resolved, it can be quiet a CMOS. Dynamic range should be such as to amount to around the 11 stops.

Optics: I would like s.Wechseloptiken a nice program, aperture lenses, and two good zooms. The zoom should be synonymous with AF can be operated, and although smart and precise. Implicit lenses should be designed for moving, so much focus ring with a large rotation angle, inner for pumps, etc., but especially: mechanical precision, I do not want a fragile plastic pieces!

Viewfinder: An optical viewfinder would be really great, but is probably even more utopian than my other ideas. For the superficial image control a small folding screen should be there, was dissolved as in the EX1, and as high as possible. Otherwise, the opportunity to join synonymous exist a reasonable control monitor.

Codec: I want a regular RAW, if not at least something intraframeartiges forth in 422 and 10bit. Recording to Compact Flash or similar.

Sound: At least two tracks, and although at 48khz and 24bit, to low-noise preamplifier. Connections in XLR with phantom power, of course, manual audio control, and although with a very large area.

What is this thing so you? Please 50p frame rate, plus Over-/Undercranking, slow motion 200 fps at full resolution with a short time.
Otherwise, the picture should be controllable in all areas, similar to the A1, so now I'm starting to not at first, when RAW is unnecessary to much anyway.

In addition, there should be a reasonably priced accessories (followfocus, Matte Box, Rig, filter, etc.).

I guess I've now forgotten a hundred things going in this direction, but something like heck, though much is synonymous to moderately lousy exaggerated.


Oh yes: The Camera Optics, please include a sentence for max. ¬ 10,000.
By now, I would be out of the race or
trained in the duck and away ...* claps *

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hans Huckebein - probably working with Canon and we have just introduced the new Canon models, hmm interessting details ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

I would like 3 x 2 / 3 chips, where each of the color is read and the whole is then nested together as a file ;-)

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Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

Hello DeKid example,

"B. DeKid" wrote: I would like 3 x 2 / 3 chips, where each of the color is read and the whole is then nested together as a file ;-)

as RAW data?
Why are nested, but this is synonymous as RGB, right?
The amount s.Daten per time is then probably can not be written on an SDHC class10, right?
In a Bayer sensor is a RAW format is even more interesting.

Regards
Lars

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi Lars

Sorry I did not so the plan.

But last week has long been my Gearloose with me exactly so nen Kram studied.

When we irgendwan so we began to imagine the future of things I have him my idea of telling (which I wrote somewhere down here sometimes)

And although I thought - to use raw footage for film, one could still use 3 chips .....

So the image material is added almost separated

For example, chip 24FPS A = 1-8; Chip B = 9 to 16; chip C = 17 to 24

So that each chip has enough time buffering the data and give the next to the storage unit is not running hot, and the images are then put together.

Say, you divide the computational task by 3.

.................

He found the idea actually quite good - then began synonymous directly s.mir dozens of bills to raise his head to me something too specific were ;-(

I'd just stop thinking that one could regulate so perhaps without compromising a large radiator core to let anything or just make a big chip.

Perhaps people know how you, WoWu, Deti, or rather my buddy what I mean.

I only stop we went rauszuholen drum better quality from the chips.

Well me, I'd rejoice if someone could only express themselves to expert can / I will not stop discussing the "professional level" with. For this I lack the knowledge, sorry.

I'm glad if I can just always be my friend nen contiguous thinking and he gets this AHA facial expressions - as the motto "It's time ne idea." ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

Hello DeKid example,

I did not know that the chips or storage units at 24fps even sweat.

They stop and learn.

Regards
Lars

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Ne ;-) that my order so I do not synonymous .... Only if we were to apply the same procedure on 24 / 30 / 60 / 120 or 300 frames per second .... or duration of the recordings do not want to limit to only 5 minutes - then I think would come up a sweat.

In RAW mode, then fall so synonymous with multiple data.

So I thought das (Made me before I)

I divide the data deluge we went only drum in order to achieve best possible quality with optimum use of.

Thought as more s.so make it mean something like multiprocessor boards

But as I said because I'm unfortunately not the expertise - it could imagine, but it generated so.

MfG
B. DeKid

OR Why is a chip can do it if I could use 3 chips?

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Antwort von Somin:

I'd like a camera like the jvc HM100.
But:
- Display a EX1
- Canon forming stable and IAF
- Lanc jack
frame rates, recording format and storage media as in the HM100
large-sensor
Connect-alls and impossible desire to 12V DC out a Kopflich without an additional battery to be able to.
alls-important point, a reasonable price so max. 2800.

EDIT: almost forgot unbediengt one Weidwinkligeres Lens, but may still be one festopitk.

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Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

Ok, I suppose I should ask differently.
Who of you would buy a camera, as of my proposed synonymous?

@ B. DeKid: Well, for high frame rates is the dirchaus sense, but it will be difficult to determine which color-coordinated three sensor chips.

Regards
Lars

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Antwort von Mink:

For 800 ¬? USURY!

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Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

Hello Mink

what would you spend?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi Lars

So, yes, but for Picture synonymous rate for the RAW images to ethablieren I think this could be a solution - why else would installed Canon now has 2 chips in your new VideoDSLR s.

800 euros are already ok more like 1200 street list, then so low to the 1000 --

Quasi P1 with an Olympus E Voigtlander lenses and a better option concerning whether video segment. should be enough, yes. ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

"B. DeKid" wrote: Quasi P1 with an Olympus E Voigtlander lenses and a better option concerning whether video segment. should be enough, yes. ;-)

Yes, exactly!

I thought s.eine optimized for video Lumix GH1 with more options and less "Fotohändling. For some people would probably synonymous frame rates of 24 and 48 B / s interesting.

Regards
Lars

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

There are / are indeed some on the train to jump the Manufacturer Olympus has since given so-say so compact cameras with changeable lenses - I was already on synonymous consider an EP 1 Buy to Just 4 Fun - because I've been here a few Bessa lenses .


If I understand your desire there.

MfG
B. DeKid

Perso. Do I see a meaning synonymous to miss Compact Camera Lens to a change .... to dispose of the solid thus (cheap) lenses with the compact or mobile phone s coming.

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