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iMac Pro statt Canon XH-A1S

iMac instead of Pro Canon XH-A1S



Frage von Daniel007:
Juni 2010

Hey people,

Today I have taken a decisive decision.

Since my PC really extreme for even the smallest HD recording stutters and Magix Video Deluxe 16 is somehow not my thing, I've always wanted to work with Final Cut and dreaming of an iMac, I have to attend to before me this dream .

So far I have thought to buy me the Canon XH-A1S. But:

What use is the best camera, if I have a damn messy cut???

I need you two of the following discussion, which I can rely.

1st How should I configure my iMac Pro or is there something new soon that should I wait first? What is the price limit I have to implement completely liquid with AVCHD in Final Cut Pro to work?

2nd Which Full HD Camcorders (now not in size of the XH-A1S!) Should I buy myself, or should I wait as synonymous?

Thank you!
Daniel



Antwort von srone:

somehow you throw two things mixed up when you synonymous with hd hdv material (format of xha1s, mpeg-2) mean, ok then new computer, but you have been avchd (h.264) edited snippets, then hdv, in the ratio to a child's play for your computer.

lg

SRone



Antwort von Alf_300:

If I have the mitgekriegt right, you walk in the MAC the files to a compatible codec, if that makes a PC synonymous likely to be similar to expected results








Antwort von Daniel007:

The question is really whether I by the fact that my calculator with AVCHD material has a little hammered, I prefer a slightly cheaper Cam (AVCHD) and buy an iMac Pro, which then creates the AVCHD?

But if it were really so, that would be child's play an HDV, then I would of course stay with what I had before me and the Canon XH-A1S get ....



Antwort von Mink:

iMac Pro is not available ... only iMac and Mac Pro .... this is a difference ....

What have you been for a Calculator at the moment?



Antwort von Daniel007:

Currently I have:

- ATI Radeon 4870 512 MB
- 1.5 TB hard drive
- 4 GB DDR2 RAM
- Intel Quad Core 4x2, 83 Ghz

Actually, I would like to keep the calculator and simply upgrade ....



Antwort von Mink:

Purchase you the XH A1s .... HDV is not a problem with the thing .... AVCHD and actually not synonymous ... ... You should convert just before the cut ....

Ifs at the moment is something massively falters s.Calculator configured not good ....



Antwort von Bespi:

"Daniel007 wrote:
Currently I have:

- ATI Radeon 4870 512 MB
- 1.5 TB hard drive
- 4 GB DDR2 RAM
- Intel Quad Core 4x2, 83 Ghz

Actually, I would like to keep the calculator and simply upgrade ....


but then everyone would be a deterioration in image and no enhancement. young boy did you ever seen the data one iMacs before??

Let the dream once beautiful dream and be busy with you more realistic things.



Antwort von Frank B.:

I also advise you to buy rather the XH A1s. My Calculator is a 2.4 GHz Dual Core with 2GB RAM. So I edit HDV and AVCHD with real-time preview. The latter is, however, only because I Canopus Edius 5.5 with use of an HD-Storm. Possibly. it is a sensible upgrade for you as a completely new Calculator. As the HDV A1s produced, we take with your configuration to make absolutely no idea. So necessarily invest in the Camera.

Frank



Antwort von Daniel007:

@ Spat: I meant a Mac Pro. But my budget would exceed complete. ;)

@ All: I'm going to buy the Canon XH-A1S. First, one would invest in a Mac Pro extremely expensive .... And I have really no bad Calculator. Something like you can upgrade at any time. And therefore prefer a Canon XH-A1S accessories with super - you are right.

@ Frank B: Can you compare Edius 5.5 with Magix Video Deluxe?

Greeting
Daniel



Antwort von tommyb:

Quote:
Can you compare Edius 5.5 with Magix Video Deluxe?

Haha.

Never!

Magix is a total consumer program - that is for people who prefer one-click solutions.

Make your chest is flat (if the error in the system, then reformat the quickest solution), you get the demos of cutting programs (eg: Edius, Sony Vegas, etc.) and try to try.

Especially with Sony Vegas it should run without any problems (I have two years to cut you a Athlon X2 4800 +, with no effects in real time) and is above all very cheap to buy (Movie Studio).



Antwort von Daniel007:

"TommyB" wrote:
Quote:
Can you compare Edius 5.5 with Magix Video Deluxe?

Haha.

Never!

Magix is a total consumer program - that is for people who prefer one-click solutions.

Make your chest is flat (if the error in the system, then reformat the quickest solution), you get the demos of cutting programs (eg: Edius, Sony Vegas, etc.) and try to try.

Especially with Sony Vegas it should run without any problems (I have two years to cut you a Athlon X2 4800 +, with no effects in real time) and is above all very cheap to buy (Movie Studio).


Just one answer I was looking for. Clear instructions and good hints! : D

Would be glad when I finally of this "Magix" wegwäre. That's a waste of money! Magix makes you think you'd have to invest in hardware, and then do the most and have no better result.

Will test once the test versions of Edius and Sony Vegas download and. If you otherwise have a good editing program in the class (synonymous by Money ago) think says answer! :)








Antwort von nohab:

avid media composer pupil costs for just 250 ¬



Antwort von Alf_300:

Media Composer = 5 vs Magix learn a lot



Antwort von Daniel007:

"NOHAB" wrote:
avid media composer pupil costs for just 250 ¬


Can you give me as a link? :)



Antwort von Daniel007:

"Alf_300" wrote:
Media Composer = 5 vs Magix learn a lot


Where do I want for the herbekommen for 250 ¬? : D



Antwort von Alf_300:

http://www.avid.de/de/promos/studentupgrade/index.asp?intcmp=AV-IN-MCSU-2l

My recommendation is not because I am just too complicated.



Antwort von Daniel007:

"Alf_300" wrote:
http://www.avid.de/de/promos/studentupgrade/index.asp?intcmp=AV-IN-MCSU-2l

My recommendation is not because I am just too complicated.


I think the program is already so this will be complicated in the 5 full version of the Non Pros Ultra and why. :) I think about it, maybe start first with Sony Vegas Pro 9 ....



Antwort von Alf_300:

Whether this is the Non-Pros Ultra-opting versions 6 and 7



Antwort von Daniel007:

"Alf_300" wrote:
Whether this is the Non-Pros Ultra-opting versions 6 and 7


What do you mean exactly? Still too many gaps and operation difficulties?



Antwort von Alf_300:

What I mean is that every year and of each company are the Super Update -

Media Composer is synonymous as a trial as far as I've seen








Antwort von nohab:

Avid and Fcp nunmal are the industry standard. Avid is very powerful but very complicated. But for 250 ¬ of the hammer. However, I can only repeat what my Kameradotzent always said. The technique is kind of no preference, it is only a tool. Prefer to learn the craft and how you tell a story with pictures.
In addition, Avid has been around for decades on the market.
lg NOHAB



Antwort von nicecam:

PROLOG

Daniel007 is 14 years old. A finding, which he really should not be interpreted to the disadvantage.
_____________________________________________________________

"Daniel007 wrote:
etc.

Why Magix Video Deluxe 16 is somehow not your thing? Is it nothing?
Why have you always wanted to work with Final Cut? Have you tested it before?

"Daniel007 wrote:
What use is the best camera, if I have a damn messy cut???

What good is the best editing program, if the camera is scrap?

(Although - the usual suspects of the camera manufacturers, "The big 4", producing no real scrap)

"Daniel007 wrote:
What is Full HD camcorder (now not in size of the XH-A1S !!!)...

So small! But there's Full HD is only in theory, because in addition to the physical resolution of other factors play a role, as the goodness of Optics, etc.

Up to and including the post of Frank B.

with the one able to bring decent. Ask times pilskopf still synonymous when the now, I think, Vegas used.


Again, ask why you want them gone? And why waste of money? You've got it already!


Reasonable!
_____________________________________________________________

EPILOGUE

@ Daniel007:
My suggestion: Purchase the XH-A1s (if you know how well I can live with cassettes, and otherwise a good Kartencam, as a consumer or Prosumerausführung) and stay for the time being with MAGIX.

You can still change. Everything costs so much money ...

But "no one speaks about Money", right? ;-)


Or this way!
-------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------
It appears, however, just that I had zeroed in on me and me MAGIX and wanted to set out other forever. Not at all, but I try to stop people hastily and carelessly throw the money out the window ...




Antwort von Daniel007:

Good evening, "nicecam"

I thank you that you have made you such a trouble. : D Had so synonymous summarized differently ...

Quote:
Why Magix Video Deluxe 16 is somehow not your thing? Is it nothing?
Why have you always wanted to work with Final Cut? Have you tested it before?


I know someone who has a Mac with Final Cut and provides really good results. Furthermore, we find very often in use Final Cut on YouTube videos - no preference whatever kind uses the industry also synonymous to the program. So it can be just super!

Magix, I think does not use the existing hardware right or wrong. I am sure that Vegas will be faster Per 9th Magix is already something, but I think I am in Vegas Pro 9 synonymous with books etc. can be quickly trained .... Anyway, it annoys me something that stops even with SD recordings with less of added sharpness of the entire program.

But will soon be synonymous format it now and then upgrade "something ...


Quote:
But "no one speaks about Money", right? ;-)


That's right. About Money is it not, Money is man! :) The good old proverb! ;)

The fact is I will still edit some videos with Magix, where I depend on Magix. Then, when the Canon XH-A1S is there, I'm going to grow Sony Vegas 9 Pro and the way to upgrade some hardware. My motherboard and the RAM I find way too big ...

Good night! :)



Antwort von nicecam:

"Daniel007 wrote:
Had so synonymous summarized differently ...

Definitely. ;-)

By the way: You already make the.

"Daniel007 wrote:
Good night! :)

Likewise :-)



Antwort von tommyb:

@ Nicecam
Even with VirtualDub you can bring about decent - and then, in much the same old other than the known linear editing system.

Regarding Magix I have to date, however, have often heard enough and seen where people would be after crashes, errors after updates etc. s.liebsten drove to Berlin to riot. Therefore, the software of Magix (just like any other program with a similar target group) but nice to Schnibbeln but by no means are reasonably frustfrei can (to some extent, because the fact is with any system).



Antwort von Frank B.:

I personally think nothing of synonymous Magix video editing programs. In the audio area, it looks different. Since I use some Magix Programs for satisfaction. The video programs I used so far of which were defective.
Similarly, I would advise against amateurs of programs such as the Media Composer. This belongs more in the professional Schine has obviously a steep learning curve. As for me, but mainly deter (an upgrade for 500, - ¬ have been offered on MC 5 because I was Avid Liquid users), are of me feared further update Prices. I think that further updates of the program are significantly higher than that of beech beat of programs in the price range in 1000, - ¬.
It may be easy to see that the supposed bargains, developed into a money eater. I mean really nothing s.sich against the program. This is certainly very good. However, should a amateur video ask if he can not be money to create more useful. For example, in a good camera. With programs such as Vegas, Premiere or Edius can achieve very good results.
I know synonymous of users who report positively about Magix Video ProX. The program I have no Erfrahrung. It is not excluded that Magix had really improved. But I am a burnt child and shun the Videoschnittprogamme this company.

Frank




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