Infoseite // import AVCHD (Liquid 7.2)



Frage von koji:


Hi,

've now tried my AVCHD material (1080/60 p and 60i) somehow after liquid to import - was not. habs cineform accordance with the converted AVI - did not.

who has a solution?

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Antwort von Jogi:

Liquid can not handle AVCHD. The NLE is already over 2 years are no longer supported, thanks to Avid. DAMAGING!
AVI LE but may be read.

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Antwort von koji:

which I now sadly gegoogelt been synonymous ... schade ... There is a transcoder for AVCHD files I created in Liquid legible?

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

The software of the cam manufacturer?

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Antwort von domain:

AVCHD is currently practiced at the level you can safely forget times anyway.
At least equivalent to that of the Mpeg2 JVC Consumer Cameras and obviously superior to the XDCAM EX format of the EX1 / 3, both formats can you loose with Liquid 7.2 edit.
Then comes anyway in the general renovation H.264 I-frame-only, including complete hardware and software renewal.
Forget the supposed benefits of the currently practiced AVCHD, it's only a question about the same image quality at even lower storage volume zusammenzuquetschen.

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Antwort von Miveo:

"domain" wrote: AVCHD is currently practiced at the level you can safely forget times anyway.
Forget the supposed benefits of the currently practiced AVCHD, it's only a question about the same image quality at even lower storage volume zusammenzuquetschen.


Could the same times THICK AND FAT on the front page of Slashcam write?

Thank domain!

Gruss

Miveo

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

The entertainment industry has given the consumer a codec unasked "missed" (h.264 in many variations), with which it is practically difficult to work it natively. There is so much s.Space saved. ;)
Sonyzeigt that post, at least with native material "clever" camcorder not a too big problem.

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Antwort von domain:

The other NLE but still faster than the Sony Vegas and descendants, but with swabs.
But that is not too much.
It is a significant improvement in the quality of various dialects of the AVCHD and is not currently visible and with the current derivatives probably synonymous unreachable.
But in 6 months with H.264 at a high level would be reached, is a totally different question, perhaps it is the mummification Vegas, etc. without the integration of graphics coprocessors already died.

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Antwort von koji:

So I propose myself here with a AVC/h.265 in 1080/60p (!) rum. fails in the moment anyway everything. I can with the format absolutely nothing to start. I have not found a proper transcoder (cineform and main concept tested), nor any software found my then 60p synonymous processing (no preference whether or AVCHD AVI).

MÜÜÜÜÜHSAMST

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

"koji" wrote: So I propose myself here with a AVC/h.265 in 1080/60p (!) rum. fails in the moment anyway everything. I can with the format absolutely nothing to start. I have not found a proper transcoder (cineform and main concept tested), nor any software found my then 60p synonymous processing (no preference whether or AVCHD AVI).

MÜÜÜÜÜHSAMST

Sue the manufacturer of the camera on 10Mio U.S. dollars damages - because your psyche negatively by the absence of a solution difficult to be affected! ;)

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Antwort von domain:

Obviously, the two pairs of different shoes, the camera manufacturer and the NLE software manufacturers, which is particularly clear when Sony Will.
The camera manufacturers and the users after their introduction, it seems to satisfy that their videos on the camera and display via HDMI to the television will be able to play, then everything is pretty much cold.

For software vendors, the development of the very well-inaugurated and entrenched developers, which are virtually irreplaceable, what a disaster for the Manufacturer may mean that the old fox no longer punch and the boys have not really come into it.
The best Example is the ancient FAST AVID Liquid from Munich, full of experience, full of complex, fully verzopft and with the original team to retire.
How could it possibly synonymous mE Vegas and made synonymous with the Avid MC.

But chances are the young programmers and their software, nor cheap, new ideas realization, so refreshingly simple, but the Old shocking.

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Antwort von Jogi:

"koji" wrote: So I propose myself here with a AVC/h.265 in 1080/60p (!) rum. fails in the moment anyway everything. I can with the format absolutely nothing to start. I have not found a proper transcoder (cineform and main concept tested), nor any software found my then 60p synonymous processing (no preference whether or AVCHD AVI).
MÜÜÜÜÜHSAMST


So AVI Liquid can read, write and process. Now there are synonymous in AVI format, a variety of interpretations, ie, AVI is not AVI. AVI is actually synonymous only one packaging for different formats, like MXF. But there are a lot of Programs to the H.264 codec can read. I have with AVCHD & Co s.Hut little. In that other users need to feel that familiar. For Liquid s.besten would be the transformation into an Mpeg2 format with which you can then edit the liquid. AVI files are usually very large and thus quite memory intensive. A real-time preview, etc. would not be indoors.
The VLC player can read Mpeg4. Weis, however, not whether he can convert synonymous. Habe nix sH264 on Sys. Otherwise I would have time to test you!

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi, I have www.liquiduser.de read, but not tested myself, because I work with HDV, there are times here next, I hope, with the consent of Liquid User:


With Canopus AVCHD Converter 3.0 to convert to HDV and edit in AL 7.2 (there are free at Grass Valley)

Grüsse cutaway

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Antwort von koji:

I already narrisch werd ... I find this encoder is not easy!

who has a link?

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Antwort von weitwinkel:

"koji" wrote: So I propose myself here with a AVC/h.265 in 1080/60p (!) rum. fails in the moment anyway everything. I can with the format absolutely nothing to start. I have not found a proper transcoder (cineform and main concept tested), nor any software found my then 60p synonymous processing (no preference whether or AVCHD AVI).

MÜÜÜÜÜHSAMST


if everything fails and your cam an HDMI output has
could be a BM-intensity + Final Cut Pro HD, or a storm with
Edius5 the vehicle via HDMI into Canopus HQ or Apple ProRes capture ....
gruß cj

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Antwort von tommyb:

"koji" wrote: I already narrisch werd ... I find this encoder is not easy!

who has a link?


12 seconds
http://www.thomson-canopus.jp/download/avchd_converter_ev.htm

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Antwort von domain:

To my knowledge, this converter works only in conjunction with an already installed the Edius NLE series. There are also several longer AVCHD -> Mpeg2 Converter with up to 50 mbs of other manufacturers, but that is all not really recommended for high quality and intermediates such as DNxHD, or ProRes422 Canopus HQ Liquid 7 was never foreseen.
One can recently observe that various users such as liquid and leave to change Canopus or Vegas. The option is relatively inexpensive on the Avid Media Composer of change was probably not very tempting.

Liquid 7 makes sense now apart of SD and HDV, or for the XDCAM EX format of Sonyand JVC (35 mbs) on. MXF container and for the "amateur version" of the JVC GZ HD30/40-Serie about their. Tod Bites (28 mbs), both full-HD Mpeg2 format in the original.

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Antwort von motiongroup:

hello that is so synonymous that AVCHD2HQ is not free or freely available.

s.Superloiloscope times you try ... it works in every case and even on my old dCore2 system.
Lach but please not because as KaiKrauses Powergoo appears.

http://loilo.tv/product/1

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Antwort von Rolf Hankel:

"motion group" wrote: hello that is so synonymous that AVCHD2HQ is not free or freely available.

s.Superloiloscope times you try ... it works in every case and even on my old dCore2 system.
Lach but please not because as KaiKrauses Powergoo appears.

http://loilo.tv/product/1

HELLO
What is already free in life. The latest version 3.1 of the Transcoder AVCHD2HQ you can use with Edius Neo. The AVCHD clips are with my quad (4x2, 8GHz) in less than real time and can then be converted as in CS3 without any problems editing.
For me, AVCHD has lost its terror and I will probably soon be selling my HV30 and only tapeless (HF100) work
Gruss Rolf ...

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Antwort von motiongroup:

Quote: The latest version 3.1 of the Transcoder AVCHD2HQ you can use with Edius Neo.

nochnmals, which has nothing to do with Canopus s.Hut and therefore can not Standallone on AVCHD2HQ access.

The Edius or the NEO can be used das .. the EDIUSUSER since version 5, even the dongle inserted so that the converter so that they can use.

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Antwort von domain:

It is yet to be Liquid 7.2 and Senescence in AVCHD and Vista.
If this software is still interested, then it is still below the maximum aspect of Sony's EX1 / 3 and the latest JVC cameras.

It takes no great but as howling drum making, this fate is synonymous some other NLE Manufacturer concern, of which we are still not able to imagine.
I see this rather positive. Just as in the photo industry's only Photoshop dominates, so hopefully it will be synonymous to the video sector. In economic terms very interesting, because no more divergent courses are needed and thus the staff fairly interchangeable and flexible in terms of potential jobs will be just as in Photoshop in the graphics industry and for photographers.

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Antwort von Jogi:

Liquid 7.2 is for me still the ultimate NLE. It can be almost anything and accomplish this without expensive add-on programs, because it contains very many of those functions akt. NLE can only dream of.
Also it can run on Vista trouble-free although it is only a release for XP was. With the DX10 patch, the akt. supported graphics cards, but it is passed with the support of Avid. Because there is now no H.264 codec can handle, it is my opinion, far from the old iron. Modern formats such as XDCAM EX can be, in accordance with the MXF changed, easy to edit. But because the codes are not necessarily liquid to FullHD formats fit Render generations only in the HDV ähnlichr resolution, has been in the English PinnacleForum thought and a higher quality codec developed for LE. With the "Liquid m2v codecs", the generation loss when rendering weitestgehenst prevented.



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Antwort von domain:

Well, this polarization is known, yes.
This particular software, the focus of the camcorder are either dirt or the greatest of all Ultimativste.
Most are things that you normally is used and even too lazy and is on the rim to see ;-))

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Antwort von Jogi:

@ Domain
when me an app or a particular camera, etc. is because I s.Herzen with which to reach my goals, it's ok to express it here.
Why should I of Liquid NLE to another change? Since it is no longer suported will surely come the time to switch to another NLE. Maybe then if LE no longer runs under Windows 7. That with the "beyond the look" is not always so easy. Time, Lust, Money, etc. play a role. I know Pinnacle in different versions. Have recent times synonymous Vegas pro 8 installed. But man is a ebend impose his habit. Since it must have such reasons to give something to change. To EXDCAM with the EX, or MXF to work there is not much synonymous alternatives. Because no MAC user bin is a very good Final Cut Pro already gone. Magix XPRO but very well ordered. And with Cmacordern is with the "rim" much more difficult! But have a few cams in their hands ...

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Antwort von Rolf Hankel:

"domain" wrote: It is yet to be Liquid 7.2 and Senescence in AVCHD and Vista.
If this software is still interested, then it is still below the maximum aspect of Sony's EX1 / 3 and the latest JVC cameras.

It takes no great but as howling drum making, this fate is synonymous some other NLE Manufacturer concern, of which we are still not able to imagine.
I see this rather positive. Just as in the photo industry's only Photoshop dominates, so hopefully it will be synonymous to the video sector. In economic terms very interesting, because no more divergent courses are needed and thus the staff fairly interchangeable and flexible in terms of potential jobs will be just as in Photoshop in the graphics industry and for photographers.


Hello

However, we should consider. "Competition stimulates business"

Gruss Rolf ...

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Antwort von motiongroup:

Quote: Magix XPRO but very properly be

it may be that you never have worked? I interpret this as your character IS ...

3 years I have tried with the VDL Prox the father of the current stage is with HD material to work ...

Forget it, there are worlds between. VEGAS, Edius, CS when the price does not matter. Even the avid rail, you can safely be forgotten even after the restructuring.

In total it looks like what I RESTRICT front should come back out and since it harpert for most programs in low-priced line, or they have so many restrictions that no preference what you're doing synonymous to handle the large package as bait in front of the nose kept is ...

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Antwort von Jogi:

@ motion group,
no, have not yet worked with Prox.
But what problems do you have exactly, or what your NLE's can not!

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Antwort von domain:

"Rolf Hankel" wrote:

However, we should consider. "Competition stimulates business"

Gruss Rolf ...


The greatest revival in the PC sector, we have Bill Gates, the quasi-monopolist experienced of us and nobody feels exploited by him, right?
It depends on the ambition combined with ethics of a manufacturer, it can be synonymous with the oligarchs to work.
Not all people, not all producers, it is the greed in the face, not all are pigs.
Did Bill not significantly doped some foundations for the sick and poor was launched?
So I have nothing against monopolists, and are responsible for the good work of humanity.

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Antwort von motiongroup:

Quote: @ motion group,
no, have not yet worked with Prox.
But what problems do you have exactly, or what your NLE's can not!


? I can only ask what I PROX had as its predecessors worst problems with HD material of all types.

Pull out the demo and teste ... get the same extension to the demo you will need ... before you get started you just read into their own MAGIX Forum and amazed about what is going on there and only software-related ..

mfg

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