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Frage von jimpanse:


Hello!

I hope that someone can urgently help me. I have bought a Samsung HMX-105, it takes times like now to have my honeymoon in H.264 HD format. This does not seem to be compatible, because if I want reinladen the data in 1080 50i Pinnacle, it shows me only 12.5 fps s.and the video is like in slow motion but the sound runs normally next. My PC is the way, Quad, 2.5 GHz, ATI 4870 with 1GB RAM, and 8GB Ram with Vista 64th

Now my question is improving, the CAM if I tausche to SonyHDR-XR500V, this refers to using AVCHD format, not like the Samsung in H.264 HD.

I want reinladen individuals into a video editing program, then convert into scenes, possibly refine with movie screens etc and when a total re-issue, just as before with the DV camcorders.

Can you PLEASE tell me what to do have, here are the H.264 movies of my honeymoon can not edit them and read on the Internet so much stuff so confused I do not know whether I should behahalten my Cam or they will still exchange it.



Please please help me before the conversion time is over! And if possible please tell me whether and how I with (my current cam, or with the other, the AVCHD) can correct HD 1920x1080 50i video capture can I edit and clean.

The slow motion preview with an offset sound is not acceptable, and the incorrect display with 12.5 frames are not synonymous, which interestingly takes with 29.9 frames is displayed on what other programs than NTSC ... I do not know next

I thank you very much and would love it if you can help me!

liebe grüße
jim

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hi Jim,

First off operations Camera makes your normal HD in 1080i and 720p and I can not imagine that something else is on your honeymoon videos on it. So it is likely a question of attitude s.Deinem editing his program.
With AVCHD (; trademarks of Sony / Panasonic) will get you as H.264 codec, so nothing other than the Samsung, only companies that transport the data in different containers, but which has no ultimate effect on the image format.
So before you go to exchange, elected once look if you program in your editing the correct settings have, because your camera is nothing less than 1080i (; and of course 720p).
For example, the setting 1080 50i sometimes not even ... It should then have its 60i (; which corresponds to 29.9).
While there are some press reports that the camera can be synonymous to 1080p, but at least it appears from the specifications not Samsung.
What irritates me somewhat synonymous, is that you say, they only do 30 frames / s ... As far as I know, the Camera (; synonymous 25 frames / s) is not synonymous since before a setting error? 29.9 How do you obtain the information?

Another tip ... check out this great recording times with a QuickTime player to ... perhaps your editing system, the container format AVC can not ...

But if you already s.Tausch think it's looking at you, the Panasonic HDC SD 200/300 times more accurate at .... With 3x 3.1 MPix will be synonymous Full HD, which the Samsung is not the case.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"JimPanse" wrote: ... which takes ... with 29.9 frames will be displayed on what other programs than NTSC ... "WoWu" wrote: ... First off operations Camera makes your normal HD in 1080i and 720p ... Your camera can not do anything other than 1080i (, and of course 720p) ... While there are some press reports that the camera can be synonymous to 1080p, but at least it appears from the specifications not Samsung ...
The recording takes 1080p Samsung in the technical data even explicitly as a highlight show, but if the specifications are in the Samsung Web sites and in the manual, provides the HMX-H105 overall a very unusual format choice:
PAL version: 1080p25, 1080i24 (;!?), 480 (;!?), NO 1080i50, NO 720p50
NTSC Version: 1080i60, 720p60, 480p60
If something very odd to me. Jim, it may be that you have a purchased for the U.S. market in particular Camera?

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Antwort von jimpanse:

Hello!

thank you reply for two!

I bought the camera in the saturn in Austria, so I hopefully join a U.S. made model.

Pinnacle:
If I do videos that I have previously copied to my hard drive of the load into Pinnacle Cam - he tells me 1920x1080, H264, 12,50 fps. So I invite one of the films purely to Pinnacle Studio 12.1, I have slow motion video and sound normal - thus completely break the film.

Corel VideoStudio 12:
can not even reinladen dates, file format mismatch (; mp4 .. although you can choose mp4). Also take me out in both programs as per notification of graphics memory, what is actually at an ATI 4870 with 1GB Ram is synonymous funny.


Magix Video Deluxe 15 Premium:
He tells me the file has a resolution of 1920x1080 (; 16:9) 29.98 fps
what surprises me now, because that's NTSC.

But I can not change the action because of PAL or NTSC can only configure whether HD or SD and Fine / Superfine.

--- So I really do not know next. If you to an even more what?


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At the tip with the Panasonic HDC SD-300.

A short question is: which is better than that of Sony (; see above) I had been thinking? And you should generally tend to prefer instead of the hard drive camcorder memory cards?

I thank you for your patience and hope to be able to do tomorrow, thanks to your help, the right ...

And if you tell me how i can still can still edit my flitterwochenfilme I would be grateful.

lg
jim

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Can not get nahand of serial numbers or the exact model number out if you have not yet so get a gray import? That with the 30 frames is funny.

Go to the times in Magix Movie Settings, then put your desired resolution a and 25 frames. 1 minutes of your time then export videos in irgenein abszuspielendes format of me from Mpeg2 and then guck dir on the video. If it is jerky, you have 30 frames and defeinitv Ami ne version of the action.

Or the cam can do both, ie, 25 and 30 frames, which would then ne thing setting the action with the yes is more realistic.

In Magix, it is always so that it if you start a new movie that sets the last settings made for new movies auto and if you had stopped there for 30 frames, there is no preference which files you import, he is always in the Project Open this ancient setting.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"JimPanse" wrote: ... I bought the camera in the saturn in Austria, so I hopefully rule out a U.S. model ...
Of these, one should be able to go out in the deed, but to make doubly sure: still standing behind the letters "105" in the model designation?
I just - after the technical data on the German Samsung website clearly wrong - a look at the instructions thrown, and thus the PAL version of the H105 controls the format 1080i50, 720p50 and 576p50. That sounds much more logical (; except that 1080p is now missing?), But unfortunately still does not explain the strange behavior of your shots. If it's any consolation to you: Apparently Samsung does not even know what the camera actually starts now ...

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Antwort von jimpanse:

"pilskopf" wrote:

Go to the times in Magix Movie Settings, then put your desired resolution a and 25 frames. 1 minutes of your time then export videos in irgenein abszuspielendes format of me from Mpeg2 and then guck dir on the video. If it is jerky, you have 30 frames and defeinitv Ami ne version of the action.



I did.
1.) exported as an mpeg-2 - where the video comes out about 3-5sec indulges ton.

interesting is, if the settings FILM Manual of 29.9 to 25 then converts at least, is the preview again synchronously - is recognized as 29.9, but the film frames.

2.) created one but just with these settings eg. on hd-dvd video with 25 frames ... back asynchronously.

3.) created man with these einestellungen hdvhd2 asynchronously, it is also - I see me hear me speak but only 5sec later.

Moreover louder so komishce lines when the camera quickly turns

'm desperate .. my / our honeymoon ..

edit:
I am so not even find a codec of my mp4 files normally takes place of the camera ... 've tried two or three packs None goes.

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Antwort von jimpanse:

"Bernd E." wrote: "JimPanse" wrote: ... I bought the camera in the saturn in Austria, so I hopefully rule out a U.S. model ...
Of these, one should be able to go out in the deed, but to make doubly sure: still standing behind the letters "105" in the model designation?
t. ..


On the calculation H105BP/EDC Leader of the action is synonymous stehts inside - so the battery compartment.

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Your comic coming of interlaced lines. When exporting, you must cease progressive, if you take hdvhd2, the 1080i and 25 Mbitrate, quasi-lossless if you fairly in this resolution but the resolution is automatically importierst always interlaced, can you still decide which Halbblid appears to be only the But these lines s.PC caused by movement. Anscheuen everything you want on your computer, you should s.end progressive play. Export to hdvhd1, 1280x720 and then click progressive, with hdvhd2 not do.

Then your lines would be gone. Look at this, whether synonymous where the frame rate is set correctly and even export the whole time to test whether what has changed since. In your export settings could still be set to 30 frames. I always synonymous s.Anfang happens because it is believed that the film properties synonymous for exports are set automatically, but is not so, we must stop making yourself 1 time, next time checks of the Magix alone. Perhaps what is wrong there.

We need to exclude a few times to get behind your failure to Prob.

With VLC player but you can of course be synonymous deinterlace 1080i to go right click on Deinterlaced set and Bob.


But I really fear that synonymous records the Pal version with 30 images. What would kacke there you will have such problems, create a smooth Pal DVD. If you were planning this, get yourself a bildern Cam with 25th

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Antwort von jimpanse:

I understand this correctly: Watch for dvd burn or s.fernseher interlaced, I can do, always watch for s.pc convert the progressive format?

I've now done as you told me .... also audio trailer.

gibts ja ich lad not only the video in, add it to 25 images to manual even though he recognizes 29.9 fps - wants to export it-no preference as it comes out more audio delay of 5sec

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Yes, I think that Cam has 30 pictures, synonymous in the Pal version.

And yes, it is not care for TV, for computers of any kind, it must be progressive.

I would clearly get a real Pal cam with 25 pictures. On Samsung.com there is no mention, however, the local to the specified shutter close to 30 pictures.

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi,

you download the program MediaInfo and analyze your clip.

Regards
cutaway

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Antwort von deti:

"pilskopf" wrote: Yes, I think that Cam has 30 pictures, synonymous in the Pal version.
...
I would clearly get a real Pal cam with 25 pictures. On Samsung.com there is no mention, however, the local to the specified shutter close to 30 pictures.


http://av.samsung.de/produkte/detail12_specs.aspx?guid=a141c017-0f75-42da-8802-561e29912006
Quote: HD Video: 1920 x 1080 pixels 1080p (; H2.264, 25 f / s) 1080i (; H2.264, 24 f / s) SD: 720 x 480 pixels
25f / s sounds to me like Europe.

Deti

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Antwort von jimpanse:

"cutaway" wrote: Hi,

you download the program MediaInfo and analyze your clip.

Regards
cutaway


've just any recording made of my cam and he said to me:

Container Format and general information:
MPEG-4 (; JVT): 36MiB, 21s 248ms @ sec: UNG
1 vedeo stream: AVC
1 audio stream: AAC

First Video Stream:
1920 * 1080 (, 3,161), at 25,000 frames per second, AVC (; main@l4.0 (); CABAC / 4 Ref Frames)

First audio stream:
128 Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 2 channels, AAC (; version 4) (, LC)

...
says he did so for 25 frames and not like him all recognize programs with 12.5 frames (; studio 12) and Magix (; with 29.9)

All funny

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Antwort von pilskopf:

"deti" wrote: "pilskopf" wrote: Yes, I think that Cam has 30 pictures, synonymous in the Pal version.
...
I would clearly get a real Pal cam with 25 pictures. On Samsung.com there is no mention, however, the local to the specified shutter close to 30 pictures.


http://av.samsung.de/produkte/detail12_specs.aspx?guid=a141c017-0f75-42da-8802-561e29912006
Quote: HD Video: 1920 x 1080 pixels 1080p (; H2.264, 25 f / s) 1080i (; H2.264, 24 f / s) SD: 720 x 480 pixels
25f / s sounds to me like Europe.

Deti

The display I've never found I had another sheet.

http://www.samsung.com/ch/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=HMX-H105BP/EDC

Because I so find ne claim does not exist.

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi,

perhaps a simple software for cutting with your camcorder?

Greetings cutaway

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Antwort von jimpanse:

samsung intel studio - is mist but one can not even spend it. invites the car when we plugged in the device. cd was not there.

would even media info says the film 25frames, tells why the import of magix then he would have 29.9 and asks me whether I want to convert .... grrr

edit: And if I have more than 5 in the magix film clips (and the all time 2min grad says) it out of memory - although I have 8GB ram and Vista64 ... maddening !!!!!!!!!!!!

And please say what times better cam is what I have written above the panasonic or sony ....

And please tell me why I am further processed asynchronously by one.

lg
jim

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Antwort von jimpanse:

Deti [/ quote]
The display I've never found I had another sheet.

http://www.samsung.com/ch/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=HMX-H105BP/EDC

Because I so find ne indication at all. [/ Quote]


Recording Format H.264 HD
Resolution 1,920 x 1,080 i / 1,280 x 720 P / 720 x 480 P

stehts so synonymous in the manual.

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Antwort von jimpanse:

synonymous to the mixdown so that you can cut him, he will also asynchronously ... that's impossible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then he asks me whether I want to adapt to 29.9 since the settings are at 25 (: what indeed is correct, see mediainfo log) ... grmpf the 29.9 he has not!

I am desperate and my wife kills me :-(;

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi,

You can do it with Cyberlink PowerDirector 7 try. Is it free of charge at present.

Greetings cutaway

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Antwort von pilskopf:

I'm glad that I got me an old-fashioned HDV cam. : D

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Antwort von jimpanse:

And which of the two cams on the exchange I will give you would proceed and why?

panasonic or sony? models see above - I am grateful for tips!

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi,

schau mal hier nach:

http://www.videotreffpunkt.com

Since it is almost exclusively with AVCHD, etc.

Greetings cutaway

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Antwort von jimpanse:

Thank you!

Nevertheless, I would like to know whether I prefer to take the SonyHDR-XR500V or the Panasonic HDC SD 300!

lg
jim

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Antwort von deti:

I would have liked at the said time, a RAW file for download from camcorder to examine the format. Has anyone a snippet for me?

Deti

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Antwort von jimpanse:

I could send you over skype you can find me at ..........
lg
jim

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"JimPanse" wrote: Thank you!

Nevertheless, I would like to know whether I prefer to take the SonyHDR-XR500V or the Panasonic HDC SD 300!

lg
jim


If you missed the note is above, is h.264 AVCHD. You drive the devil with the Beelzebub.
Remember the times Mrs. times and forget the despair and go ran as systematically, or you stand with the new camera as well as with the current one. (; The days of super standardized be DV AVI, which it has been easy for the user, as you yourself realize, unfortunately, over).
The Samsung is known h.264 implementation-of bitchy, but not edit it impossible - it comes on it will find s.das correct program.
Edit search for one or HMX-10 HMX-20 and "" - these are the previous models with the same h.264 - there's likely to be more empirical values that can be transferred.

Trying different editing programs (; there's of all the test versions), VLC Player or the latest Quicktime Player. The fact that the software supplied nix 'outputs' can not be, maybe that is just different. RTFM.

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Antwort von jimpanse:

i RTFM.

video pro x
pinnacle studio 12.1
magix video deluxe 15 premium
video deluxe 15 premium ...

nix everything works asynchronously and always out of memory on my 8GB actually impossible.

once he knows to be 29.9 frames, sometimes I let him is mandatory of 25 frames according to media info then preview synchronously but the issue again more nciht.

etc etc annoying that everything die for. whatever it is to me no preference whether I 500 euro or 1000 euro, I want to pay a camera with which I can work properly. I was recommended here in the panasonic SD300 videotreffpunkt.de elink see above is once again that this is not that good ..

:-(, I have no plan what to take longer now with the exchange.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Edius?
Vegas?
The above-mentioned PowerDirector?
VLC Player?
Media Player Classic?
Quicktime Player?

Directly with the camera s.den Television? (and then does the woman ever heard and you have time you umzuschaun)

The latest version of which is to get along well with h.264 synonymous: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AviDemux

And as above written synonymous - lad mal nen snippet or two high, so people want to help to test it.

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Antwort von jimpanse:

"Daigoro" wrote: Edius?
Vegas?
The above-mentioned PowerDirector?
VLC Player?
Media Player Classic?
Quicktime Player?

Directly with the camera s.den Television? (and then does the woman ever heard and you have time you umzuschaun)

The latest version of which is to get along well with h.264 synonymous: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AviDemux

And as above written synonymous - lad mal nen snippet or two high, so people want to help to test it.


I vegas teste ... vlc, mpc, open my quicktime videos not or only vague - although KLite codec etc on it.

lad as I was high?

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Antwort von WoWu:

Jim
Stream Your analysis says that with the camera in fact everything is in order.

Quote: Container Format and general information:
MPEG-4 (; JVT): 36MiB, 21s 248ms @ sec: UNG
1 vedeo stream: AVC
1 audio stream: AAC

First Video Stream:
1920 * 1080 (, 3,161), at 25,000 frames per second, AVC (; main@l4.0 (); CABAC / 4 Ref Frames)

First audio stream:
128 Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 2 channels, AAC (; version 4) (, LC)


.... and that the camera comb synonymous to "is synonymous says an older thread here:
http://forum.slashcam.de/samsung-h264-vt71652.html

In my estimation, it is because no suitable project is designed to capture programs.
Can you tell me, which is present in the file container format? I type on time. Mov
Then it may be, of course, that the accompanying metadata, synonymous with regard to the sound to be interpreted correctly.

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Antwort von jimpanse:

These are all files *. mp4.

lg jim

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Antwort von Modellbahner:

Hello JimPanse,
Simply drop the test PowerDirector7 than 30 days since the release can do that
Bernd

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Antwort von jimpanse:

jep can!

Only if I, as HD DVD Höri ch s.dvd convert the mpeg player if I do not rauflege ton.

you know why?

maintain what format to burn to möglist good quality?

've created an mpg with vegas (; uncomfortable) and then I ton.

lg
jim

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