Infoseite // smart rendering of MPEG 2 files with APE 3.0 and MainConcept MPEG plugin



Frage von OZM:


Days everybody,

I
Beginners

Cam
Pana SDR 150

Software
Win XP pro
APElemtents 3.0 (demo version)
MainConcept MPEG plug for APE 3.0 (Demo Version)

Hardware
AMD Dual Core
plenty of working memory and HD
(but probably with the issue have nothing to do, since the prog yes too much rather than too little makes)

Context
The cam features MPEG 2 to SD Card on
When I go to APE files (media and retrieve vonDateien folder), edit (for example, test cut apart a clip or two join - no transition / dazzle / Effect, etc.) and then output (ExportierenMainconcept MPEG Elemnents) is not for me clear whether the file or a completely new smart rendering (with Womble
Die Verarbeitungszeiten deuten darauf hin, dass alles neu gerendert wird

Frage
was muß ich tun, damit die Ausgabe der bearbeiteten File smart gerendert wird?

Vielen Dank

OZM

P.S.
hat jetzt schon jemand was zum steadymove in APE 3.0 rausbekommen?

Premiere Elements 3.0
and
Premiere Elements 3.0
I've read but there is nothing to accurate processing of MPEG 2 files in it


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Antwort von go4java:

solution of the riddle:

the demo version or re li hide their logo (constantly) a. This must necessarily be re-rendered. So nix with smart render.

If you have a file in DVD format (720 x 576, 25 fps, 4:3) or rendered in this format, will follow the steps in the "smart" rendering. However, the prog is not as graphically what smart and what's new rendering.

Other formats (704 x 576), I am unfortunately not been able to render smart - so smart NOT render of "704 x 576" to "704 x 576"!

The same with the 16:9 mode. Everything seems a little illogical to me - maybe it's a handling error by me. Who will mind what I would be grateful for info.

Overall, I have combined with Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 + MainConcept MPEG plug in my software found - but it is probably a matter of taste.

OZM

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Antwort von OZM:

aaaaaaaaarg,

why you can write what ever if you are not logged in?

The previous post is of me.

OZM

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Antwort von zauber:

You must be a new Project with the settings on the plug-in change.
Must be burned after the export with what others B z Nero. PE can not, or will be re-rendered.
FG,
charming

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Antwort von jklaus:

Hello,

I think about when I look at whether the MPEG plug-in now and buy me the answer of charming little insecure. I would like
do the following. First, several films with PE3 as mpeg cutting and
export. After completing all the MPEG to a new PE3 Project
import the DVD menu and burn with PE3. Will there now
once every mpeg newly rendered or not?

mfG Klaus

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Antwort von Sektionschef:

Hi
So I have the SDR-S100, but know PE3 or MC-plugin so I can not here you do not give advice.
I use Magix Video Deluxe 2007 + with my SDR-S100 and think it is THE best editing program for mpeg2 files (supported of course synonymous smart-rendering).
So if you have time and desire, then look at times to demonstrate the Magix.
mfg
Section Head

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Antwort von zauber:

"jklaus" wrote: Hello,
After completing all the MPEG to a new PE3 Project
import the DVD menu and burn with PE3.
mfG Klaus


It is unfortunately the case. That the above be with another program made. Is time for Adobe here and take action.
Habs I tried, there is no other way of exporting unfortunately

charming

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Antwort von jklaus:

Hello,

after review of the manual from the MPEG plug-in it really looks as if the smart-rendering functions only in the export file and not with the DVD creation WIRSAM are. This means that we must then, as delightful already pointed out, yet the DVD with another burning program to create smarter.
That would be unpleasant but a serious limitation in the processing of mpeg files in PE3. Hopefully there's a better solution soon.

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Antwort von OZM:

"charming" wrote: You must be a new Project with the settings on the plug-in change.
The settings I have changed accordingly (at least I think).

"charming" wrote: Must be burned after the export with what others B z Nero. PE can not, or will be re-rendered.
FG,
charming

gehts ums burn me at the moment not only for export to the hard drive. And since I would like to hold that a file will be rendered as smart, if I only front and rear was cut away.

"jklaus" wrote: ... I think about when I look at whether the MPEG plug-in buy ...
I have the impression that the plug-in (yet?) Not a hundred percent on Elemts 3.0 is tuned to. In the instructions, for example, is only 2.0 APE of the speech and they go there only on the synonymous APE 2.0 menu one. More specifically, I can not prove it because I do not over-Checker am in this matter. The main benefit from the MPEG plug-in is really umfangereiche opportunity to influence the Encodierungsprozeß it (trial version is free, however, hides the main concept logo - but it is really enlightening)

"Section head" wrote: ... I ... think it is THE best editing program for mpeg2 files (supported of course synonymous smart rendering) ... see you sometime in the Magix demo

habs been sucked - but I am yet to come for free - thanks for the hint.

Use your busy way, the program "SDCopy" - is a super thing, thanks

Send me your e-mail (my address is below)

"jklaus" wrote: ... it really looks as if the smart-rendering functions only in the File-Export ...
I do not even get the out. My Cam produces 704x576 and the file I can in the same size export only are they re-rendered (at least in the status dialog is "normally render" and it takes a "normal"). There is indeed synonymous, for example the possibility of a file to analyze these properties and then as an export profile to take - smart rendering? Puff cake!

Smart will only be rendered if I have a file in the standard DVD format and then render (eg, after further cutting etc.) once again export - then and only then renders APE 3.0 with the plug in smart.
with smart rendering: Standard DVD -> DVD standard (at least when Fileexport)
no smart rendering in: Custom Profile -> (the same) Custom Profile

If someone thinks that it is s.der setting, I would be very happy if he times his e-mail can send. I send him a link, in which he is a native file of my cam can suck and his art is taking. Who then is this-how file with APE 3.0 and plug in the MPEG smart render that describe me, please please please with sugar on top "step by step" how to do this - I am not out war.

OZM

if before "napf1@gmx.net" nor "karl" writes, you have my e-mail address (I have unfortunately so complicated, since there are many small robots on the Web, what the "xxx@gmx.bla "search and then I get a lot of advertising)

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Antwort von Geri:

Hi,

I have 2 days before the plug of MainConcept purchased.
It saw in the demo as if I use the movies from my Canon HV20 in 1080i format so that would cut and edit.
Very important was the smart render with, since I use the raw material s.den not changed jobs again to have encoded.

Unfortunately the plugin does not work as intended:
After the cutting block interfaces are s.den education and repeated frames to see.

A question is asked s.den Support ..

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Antwort von OZM:

Oh yes, tell something from the story * and many greetings s.Herrn Marc Hartmann, the former head Laber.

"Please excuse that we have as yet no solution to the problem SmartRender.
We investigate the matter and continue after the developers are informed about this problem "

That was in January, 2007

Schade ums Money.

OZM


* I have subscribed to the thread, you can calmly synonymous later

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Antwort von hgr:

Even for me were around. 60 ¬ rausgeworfenes money because when the PlugIn HDV editing APE 3:02 to crash. The response of support from July this year is just as binding as previously reported (known bug, it will be worked out, update date unknown). Could not even work with dm PlugIn. Pity for the Money.

Greeting
HGR

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Antwort von ZSSR:

Did not the MC Timo of Canopus purchased extra to make your plug-in on front man to bring?

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Antwort von stefanscholl:

Has probably not helped ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hello ..
.. Perhaps a brief statement on the "smart render". For MPEG files, it is not possible so as DV files. (derived from the time of the synonymous term). It is not possible inside of GOP's cut, that is not possible within synonymous of GOP's to render. While it is possible for an interim cut in visual resolution "in the memory set, but when off, the entire contribution will be rendered. There are procedures to allow the s.den bodies s.denen not been edited, without loss make them the same table entries and "history data" used to restore the Picture. These techniques are patented and can be found but only in EMOL system. Certainly not in the usual NLE's. So smart-rendering, as we do from time to know the DV is in MPEG-based systems is not possible, if not synonymous as it is called, perhaps a "crutch" to a s.den agencies Picture shows, but material must be rendered in GOP's entire process and let's GOP is, if anything, only s.Anfang or s.Ende disconnect. And just because a cut would be subject to chance.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So that smartrendern in mpeg2 not possible to be, stands in stark contrast to the observed practice, that products like this

- Edius 4.51c
- Vegas 8
- VdL
- Pinnacle Studio 11
- Ulead VideoStudio
- Ulead Media Studio
- Womble / Easymovie

certainly can. It is simply not true that all the material must be re-Encodes. We notice that although the better products in less s.der video quality - the encoder is already far too well, no, we noticed that in practice s.den significantly lower output times.

And, of course, is in all of the above products frame accurate editing is possible. NLEs cut not destructive, but the material is left intact on the hard drive to love.

And for the issue of how to with the GOP before and after the output bypasses have probably all the above Manufacturer times found a solution. In no case is it that you only s.Anfang or a GOP s.Ende today video footage can be cut.

The problems seem to have problems between the MainConcept plugin NLE and the subject. It is probably as little to say, apparently will not stop this problem solved. There are enough alternatives s.Markt.

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Antwort von WoWu:

... the systems do not do it by direct editing or Edit but over a batch ... there is still no solution for closing an incomplete GOP. There are no synonymous MPEG tool for it, because the format never was a cut, so conception is not synonymous. The only possibility is a batch list that when you export the file is executed. In this respect you can call the course, as you want but there are no secret Erfndungen, with the open GOP's deal with them. It is the wrong presumption that we can frame in a GOP just cut into it. We are resolved only by means of the intersection of passages in the rendering process, when you export a view or decoding is executed. Whether you call or Smartrendern now synonymous as always, in any case differs significantly, the process of intra-frame formats, where the course is feasible (DV, DVCPro, AVC-I).

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Antwort von WoWu:

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Antwort von WoWu:

... ah, if I am still a Lernfrage can join ..

... how it is because that a stream is not completely in exports has been rendered?
What makes you the notes?
And what you observe that smart rendering is possible and in the encoded GOP cut into it to be?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Quite simply, in daily practice we see that if you only want to look. We know roughly how long a mpeg2 stream needs to be re-encoded. And you can see the drastically reduced time when smartrendered. Or just have a filter drauflegt and so forces a recalculation. DAS are simply practical experience, and the small ABC in testing of various systems or codecs, such as their practicality.

It is easy for the user completely misleading to claim that one could in a GOP does not cut it. At the end of the still believes any inexperienced here ... the user can do in daily practice! The O-footage remains on your drive ... and he still performs frame accurate, and whether he is an I frame or another ahead of it.

It would be even an unmitigated disaster if I HDV2 for a cut only every 12 frames could make - for the practice would be a totally unsuitable system. And the user must not be synonymous to similar content or table care - or know what a MOLE procedures. All listed NLE Manufacturer have long been integrated into their NLEs and the Case for practice frame exactly solved via the nonlinear and non-destructive editing DV. We have tapes and yes Spulren no longer before us, we only s.bestimmten agencies can cut ...

It makes for the user, therefore, no difference, whether he physically a GOP structure s.Anfang or just a GOP s.Ende can cut - because each of them, but really any modern NLE allows long s.jedem frame building and accuracy. The user must be given in None of the matter.

Sit times s.einen cut square with a semi-modern software, which only a few hundred dollars it cost - and get a Cutter of an HDV-cut show.

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Antwort von WoWu:

The functionality is implemented is no question about it ... The starting point was just ... how ... Because a processing bezw. a cut is just about the recalculation and re-image parameters and in this Neurendern suffers just the image by up to 6 db. .. There is still all the artifacts that an intermediate codec to Picture brings .... And what in the export of the material needs of the entire stream from the (smart) Render Files and the starting material to a total (export) file (TS) or (PS), depending on whether I use 1 or 2, together. And here the question arises as to whether it happens lossy or lossless ...
Because smart-rendering, as the computer was born, does not do more in the GOP structure, because I am not so easily be a few more frames in the original stream can be inserted, as it originally was possible. That there is a feature used to be "underprivileged" is clear ... Only problem is the loss of quality in which the material is suffering, because as simple as the "normal consumer", the present ... "I will make my Aperture and which is in the" native "material ...." it is that simple, unfortunately not. And if the NLE's the claim, then this assertion is simply nonsense and simply because wrong.
Anyway, this term "smart-rendering" once again a fairly meaningless marketing term ... but it is very dangerous, because he is in the computerized systems defined and somewhat synonymous marked a technical process, so no longer is feasible .... GOP cuts in work-based systems is different than before.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So I GEBS slowly - the average of the typical as Cineform Intermediate codec / Canopus HQ is a totally different route than the "native" editing of m2t, where I HDV2 material in the timeline and set out to m2t render.

And if the NLE some GOPs must be treated accordingly - GOP close s.einem intersection about - then it may be. As always, the NLE does exactly - since the silent Softarehersteller answer yes. But why not break the whole picture together - neither s.den conscious bodies, and certainly not just copy s.den image parts ...

But the discussion can not be next, without knowing exactly how a smart-rendering algorithm in a specific NLE works.

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Antwort von WoWu:

... Since we have complete agreement ...
But I have to admit, so far I have failed, there's something about this "mysterious" Smartrendern to know .. that is why I am afraid (not know) that we as the company once more verschaukeln and in fact any "home back" codec set that is in the chain of negative effects Trancodings.
It was because of the cyber link US.Patent from 2003 with the number (6,559,780) in which they have patented Smart Rendering. I'd really like to know how they actually define ... Unfortunately, the U.S. Patent Office says that this patent does not exist any more ... Rumors say that it was because of inconsistencies have been withdrawn ..
So if someone in the forum can give a good indication of how these processes are well defined .. or where such definitions can read .... that would be really great (but please no prospectus descriptions) ... which in this context are not helpful.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Good, but for the practitioner is more important that the time does matter. And that it works, is properly detected - so great is the gain of time when the smart-render options and uses, compared to rendering time, if the disabled.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"WoWu" wrote:
But I have to admit, so far I have failed, there's something about this "mysterious" Smartrendern to know .. that is why I am afraid (not know) that we as the company once more verschaukeln and in fact any "home back" codec set that is in the chain of negative effects Trancodings.


Only because the only knowledge about the industry, it must still be far from being a sham. And what it is, subject to due to the clear interest of strict confidentiality easy (if you even know what).

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Antwort von WoWu:

.. well, quite as simple as that now does not finally challenge is to whether a transcoding into another Algrorithuns implemented and thus affect the picture or not.
And all this goes slightly faster basically says nothing ... may be synonymous with the other task distributions have to do so: render in the background ... or at another time, another partition, etc.
For still the statement is false, one could in any offices of the GoP's cut, what smart rendering is a prerequisite.
And that's why I think it is, however, for a "sham", while the DV-times when it was invented and worked lossless images could, with the changing algorithms but produces artifacts. Particularly in this context, almost all patents for loss-free transfer of MPEG algorithms for the well-known companies (Tomson, Snell & Wilcox, Frauenhofer) and are apparently none of the software houses. Even Apple's "must be" yes Intermediate Codec on a walk. I think if there is no such thing as lossless MPEG Smartrendern images exist, so what is claimed, they would have implemented it ..
But I see that the discussion here is not next, so long as the company simply can not say what they actually do with the pictures ... synonymous, there is apparently no substantive tests on such backgrounds. (you might have a artifact produce at a Trancodierung is forced to change his behavior, and then draw conclusions about the procedures to be drawn) ...

But it is true, of course, and of pragmatism influenced, if one says it works mainly ... only one may of course after not more upset when the Picture for a more extensive processing suddenly displays artifacts, which are also very often on such processing is back to lead.

Perhaps there is still someone who is here on the detailed processes at sg Smartrendern with "native" MPEG material or can say the test results, the quality of the "faster" more far-reaching statements represent.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"WoWu" wrote:
For still the statement is false, one could in any offices of the GoP's cut, what smart rendering is a prerequisite.


We have now been told often enough that the DV editing nondestruktiven just not in this form. This is simply a misleading statement, because in a hard drive on the underlying file does not cut it. The experience is thus unchanged in any conflict - I can frame accurately cut, be it in m2t or m2ts.

And without knowing how the smartrendern done, I would point this problem anyway with smartrendern not verknüfen. Otherwise, asks another, from one white.

"WoWu" wrote:
And that's why I think it is, however, for a "sham", while the DV-times when it was invented and worked lossless images could, with the changing algorithms but produces artifacts. Particularly in this context, almost all patents for loss-free transfer of MPEG algorithms for the well-known companies (Tomson, Snell & Wilcox, Frauenhofer) and are apparently none of the software houses.


That is even more critical - I would warn them times, companies such as Avid, Sony, Corel, etc. Canopus times a flat rate of a "sham" to speak and undercurrent a Patentveletzung "to insinuate. Moreover, if a defect s.Wissen how this point in their products have solved, then not even the proof applies, that it is a sham act. Or can you show?

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Antwort von Marco:

The user itches academic position usually very little. Smart Rendering means for him that the process runs much faster than a normal rendering and that s.den appropriate places for him throughout the work not of significant quality loss. Neither is anywhere where the signal remains unchanged and where there is not just a few frames of broken GOP are given. Especially good is the example of sorting the materials. As the Manufacturer, the queue is completely no preference as long as it is only as good as it does just work. A Qualitätsdrop is virtually non-existent (if not exactly one of the two above mentioned cases is true).

Marco

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Wolfgang, but this is s.den fetched, because what you write and konstruierst.
However, I believe that much of a sham ... Apple offers lossless encoding s.sondern not Transcodiert. And why were patents on smart-rendering, the computer times were still held, and pulled back today is a mystery that made.
No, no, because the Manufacturer verschaukeln users .... and None of the so-called "testers" asks critical after.

@ Marco ... I give you so right when a feature gain the desired speed and brings the user and thus require no commercial marketing of the product is so aspiring synonymous completely in order.
--- Only a sham, it remains nonetheless ... because freedom loss forecast and is in fact up to 6db SNR vanishes.
... academically and so it is just not .... all the systems come from the (academic as you call it) I call it the professional area and are based largely s.professionellen framework.
The whole system is not designed for home use but invented for professional use ... So why should the user not synonymous of commercial developments next to benefit? So why the system between an amateur and a professional system differ?

So, if there is someone there who can give hints how to do it? Only, I'm really grateful for any useful hint.
The emphasis here is synonymous "expedient".

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Wolfgang
... one point I had overlooked ..

You wrote:
"We have now been told often enough that the DV editing nondestruktiven just not in this form. This is simply a misleading statement, because in a hard drive on the underlying file does not cut it."

By constantly repeating false statements, they are unfortunately not correct.

Even if you have a batch-cut list, GoP is oriented to the export procedure spätstens a new and closed TS or PES generated AVC or MPEG because no separate timing mechanisms. It is necessary, the "native" material to de-and then re-encode. This process is lossy, a fortiori when they have an intermediate codec, but even if one is working within the format, as new image in addition to the estimates already been held!
Also, the presumption that the cut on the batching (maybe it's so smart rendering) is lossless is simply wrong and moving!

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Antwort von Pixelorkan:

Quote: @ Wolfgang, but this is s.den fetched, because what you write and konstruierst.

this is everything and be a greater s.den hair herbeizieher you will not find

Quote: By constantly repeating false statements, they are unfortunately not correct.

Of course not, but as the Vienna fristet years since his being in the video forums

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"WoWu" wrote: @ Wolfgang, but this is s.den fetched, because what you write and konstruierst.


Well, I construct because nothing I say only what I think about this. If you think it appropriate that the matter be presented to you is that yes unaffected. If you have all these companies with such statements in a pot to throw - you are.

"WoWu" wrote: @ Wolfgang
... one point I had overlooked ..

You wrote:
"We have now been told often enough that the DV editing nondestruktiven just not in this form. This is simply a misleading statement, because in a hard drive on the underlying file does not cut it."

By constantly repeating false statements, they are unfortunately not correct.

Even if you have a batch-cut list, GoP is oriented to the export procedure spätstens a new and closed TS or PES generated AVC or MPEG because no separate timing mechanisms. It is necessary, the "native" material to de-and then re-encode. This process is lossy, a fortiori when they have an intermediate codec, but even if one is working within the format, as new image in addition to the estimates already been held!
Also, the presumption that the cut on the batching (maybe it's so smart rendering) is lossless is simply wrong and moving!


Na through constant and ignore the point, which is really about, is not the synonymous right thing.

It is not just the point, whether lossy or lossless tainted not make the cut. But it is primarily about s.dieser place the statement that one in a GOP can not cut it. And everyone - even our vorlauter guest, who long ago in Poland should be - can be with virtually every frame accurate editing program cut, otherwise it could, if only some HDV every 12 frames a cut set! And this is in practice absolutely not be observed.

Please time these two times points to keep apart, and not always need to shorten that "no one can cut GOPs.

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Antwort von Marco:

How should the loss of the "SNR" because in practice?

It comes even after 20 generations never render visible and never by simple methods (eg, difference images) demonstrable loss. That I do not consider as "Vorgaukeln" loss of freedom and that is not only non-commercial aspects acceptable, but in my opinion all along the line, unless (again) just a theory.

"Why that is, between an amateur system and a professional system differ?

That is what some developers thought synonymous and so there is the smart rendering even for XDCAM HD.

The only sticking point to me when ever Smartrendern in practice under the hat comes, and the computer almost as concerns is the fact that except for simple material segregation (or even synonymous with cuts DV) but always s.manchen agencies rendering operations arise, which may then be cascaded in the visible quality of jumps within the same setting may lead. It is however seen as the areas that are not part of the Smart Rendering can be assigned (and thus in HDV, AVCHD, XDCAM HD synonymous broken the GOP). Synonymous and that is one reason why I do not necessarily Smartrendern as a gift from the sky, but may prefer to render a complete generation with a gentle, perhaps also not a significant loss in Purchase suppose, by the influence on almost all the material may means the lesser of two evils. But this has nothing to do with the fact that in other areas Smartrendern would not work.

Marco

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"WoWu" wrote:
No, no, because the Manufacturer verschaukeln users .... and None of the so-called "testers" asks critical after.
...

So, if there is someone there who can give hints how to do it? Only, I'm really grateful for any useful hint.
The emphasis here is synonymous "expedient".


Now I have to see what I can do here Verschaukeln neither recognize nor understand. If umpteen generations Render Qualitätsdrop no recognizable - and then speaks the claim of "sham" halt once again against all test data.

Have you ever tested or come to these conclusions Mogelpackung from a purely theoretical consideration? If the latter is the case, I would point s.Ihrer times more likely to test the matter quickly - and I see the results of fasting and then evaluate.

And the comment about the "relevance" I think once again for a sideswipe inappropriate - like other actions, which I do not want to enter next. So if what practitioners say, is as little relevant? Thank you for the contribution.

And no, I remember my NDA not to hurt, and here for more information on the smart rendering to disclose.

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Antwort von Markus:

Note from Mod: So, I have here and an anonymous (!) Post with a personal insult deleted ...

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Thank times for Markus.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Wolfgang

... Unfortunately, the discussion here gets out of kilter and annimiert guests unobjective, of which I would like to dissociate.
While on the topic of early or long synonymous otherwise still find a clarification, with or without NDA.

(Since when testers actually sign NDA's? - It's still Tester? --- Or Is not contradict somehow?)

-But I want here is not a new barrel unstop ...
Thank you for your contributions ...

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Antwort von wolfgang:

I can only say: even empirically test is still useful to review theory and necessary. Modern NLEs are surprisingly well developed what some of the aspects discussed here. And this is not done, then stop for curious tension between theory and practice - especially when the theory no longer holds s.die practice.

I am speaking here of non-public beta test - and to have early access to developments, and will occasionally synonymous propagated info. And of the Page is a - in my view, legitimate - to protect the interests of the Company s.diesen information, particularly at a time long before a product launch. Why should not the FRIM on a secure NDA? Make way, almost all companies with closed Betatesterein so, unless there are public beta testing - what it is so synonymous.

I speak here not of the tests by various magazines, the press departments to be - probably do not need the NDA and get the products in general or only slightly ahead for the launch.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Thanks for the explanation, but it can smart render secret probably was not, finally, there is a feature since 2001.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Sure - you can do a literature search, and look what you can find. About google found practically no useful information - but these are hardly synonymous real professional publications recorded.

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Antwort von M-Trax:

Hi,
So let's face it, what a smart Zenober to this rendering?

Is quite simple:
With a cut in a GOP is just these newly encoded GOP.
When you join the stream, in every time a new header is written. And that was it already synonymous.

Except for the GOP's newly coded the remaining material will be copied 1:1. It is not a single byte s.den Picture responsible for the information changed.

I do programming themselves, and have, for example, a program that each frame has a CRC32 Comparison in an MPEG2 stream can be found.
I mark eg 20 frames s.beliebiger place in a MPEG2 and make a bitmap of each frame. If only one byte synonymous change the frame, I could not find. This is so synonymous with newly rendered and transcoded videos.
With smart rendered videos (eg with VideoRedoPlus) every frame, I can find, because just s.den image information of the frame, not a single byte has changed.

It is that simple, Mr. WoWu

Still s.Rande:
Vegas 8 is not controlled smart rendering for MPEG2 files.
Only for DV, HDV and MXT.

Greetings a guest

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Antwort von WoWu:

What a nonsense ...
And if Vegas 8 No smart rendering for MPEG2 dominant, but for HDV? HDV then what should be?
Can also leave a Comparison CRC32 does not independently apply the resulting bit streams, but only to file locations.
Good host, it is not enough ... because I prefer to think s.das what MainConcept and CyperLink have had to say and not what anonymous amateur programmer so of themselves.

And that's all the snow in September ....

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Antwort von wolfgang:

This is well aware that Vegas 8, the Smartrendern not mpeg2 for SD-dominated, but only for HDV. Why this is so, one would have to ask the development team. But it is so.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Yes but unfortunately the rest is nonsense almost synonymous to the hobby programmer because of itself.

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