Frage von hilpers:
Hello. times I would take your help.
I have been half a year, the 100th canon hf This was already due to a defective sensor in repair. The sensor was replaced and the problem were then horizontal pulsating strip film in all lighting conditions for both photos as synonymous with.
some time before they came Get back and at first I was happy until I was shooting on the turn and twilight scenes and wanted to roam here were suddenly, this time horizontally. they occur only on videos and photos at nihct. I sent a camera which, because ichdas problem as really annoying but felt the camera came with a letter "error could not be traced" back. Now I need your help. how are your recordings lowlight? what the problem might be?
The stripes are fine and seem to be static: (;. reasonably compatible only with "cine mode" but still not acceptable.
I need to upload a clip.
I really need your help urgently!
mfg
Hilp
Antwort von domain:
Remote diagnostics of unseen images are difficult. Add doch mal an example image in here.
Antwort von hilpers:
All clear! I upload a 50 mb video up on rapidshare!
Antwort von domain:
To assess one does not need full 50 MB video, it satisfies a typical frame in full resolution.
Antwort von hilpers:
http://rapidshare.com/files/236103319/00031.MTS.html
Antwort von tommyb:
Looks like a "vertical smear", but not so strong.
It should perhaps be stronger if next top s.Himmel a very strong spotlight was.
Antwort von hilpers:
aha, and what does that mean exactly?
is it normal for the hf100? but probably rather not!? or expressed canon before further repairs?
Antwort von Yerri:
So this is not normal. I have the HF100 and synonymous as likely to be a defect.
Antwort von hilpers:
thank you for answering the very important.
but what I have in hand against canon, which appears in front of press that gets to reaprieren?
Antwort von Yerri:
I would send this recording again with the service. When then I would still refuse to threaten with legal action. In any case, the shots are not there you have uploaded normally.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Could not see because a download limit has been reached.
I always use www.stepload.de
Antwort von hilpers:
404ERR
Antwort von Yerri:
I would even apply by phone directly to Canon in Willich:
http://www.canon.de/cci_service_center_willich/
Antwort von hilpers:
I have already done. result: "please contact s.The reaparaturfirma" Geissler ""
then I wanted to, because the camera was far more in repairs than I could zurrückgreifen to them that they cam to exchange them.
But appreciate lousy support for 600 bucks and I've thrown out the window. atmospheric recordings are almost completely impossible.
I feel betrayed and powerless.
somehow a fight against windmills
Antwort von Yerri:
Apparently refers Canon Willich s.The many customers Geissler:
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=31924
The error apparently still many other brands. Or just send them anyway times after Willich. I would not let me because fobbed off with such excuses.
Antwort von DeeZiD:
This is very simple banding, which occurs in the smaller canyons halt.
My HV20 has this problem synonymous. Many DSLRs (; others. My 400d), which is synonymous affected.
Even as the cameras RedOne are affected - if not synonymous to this extent.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von Yerri:
This is very simple banding, which occurs in the smaller canyons halt. I think less. I have the HF 100 is now one years and in the movies very often synonymous Lowlightbereich. Such recordings are I am still not yet encountered. They're totally useless.
Antwort von hilpers:
willste du mal vllt a recording of your post in lowlight, so I just another proof, as it should be, can send in with?
Antwort von Yerri:
Here is not ideal but I have just nothing else:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1657824/00000.m2ts.html
Antwort von Rolf Hankel:
I have already done. result: "please contact s.The reaparaturfirma" Geissler ""
then I wanted to, because the camera was far more in repairs than I could zurrückgreifen to them that they cam to exchange them.
But appreciate lousy support for 600 bucks and I've thrown out the window. atmospheric recordings are almost completely impossible.
I feel betrayed and powerless.
somehow a fight against windmills Hello
I have received the same thing with a defect in my HV 30; Geissler because I want to know of nothing that I have the Canon staff informed
was sent to the Cam Willich and repaired to my complete satisfaction.
I would definitely talk again in a calm factual Sound with Canon. You'll see it then works
Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von ruessel:
Here is a LowLightaufnahme my Canon HF100:
http://www.archive.org/download/hf100/hf100_10.MTS.mpg
More HF100 Low Light: http://www.fxsupport.de/blog/05_09.html (; approximately in the middle of the page LowLight begins)
The lights go well below 10 lux, still come flashing white dots, and this pattern is no longer synonymous with match reality.
Antwort von domain:
Have I seen the clip is now synonymous times in PD (; partially Picture of Picture). What bands do you mean? Approximately two to three vertical stripes s.Himmel very beginning?
If you have anything that can mean the whole thing once forget it, because everything is in order.
It is about the sgn. Lensflare of light sources in the picture itself or just outside of the image.
When they occur, and only s.dieser body s.sonst None other there is no reason for alarm.
Would it be a camera fault, they would see in every Lowlightsituation s.derselben place and this is obviously not the case.
Antwort von hilpers:
Many thanks for the reply and posts.
such recordings as I could with my hf100 of Yerri hinbekommen so definitely not. Many thanks for that!
@ domain: the stripes are not 2 or 3. these are estimated to make thicker, some more subtle 80-100. They definitely are static and always present in only one sees it very lowlight in ALL situations. that this is not nomal, I have now here in the forum already a few times and heard it had me seriously wondering synonymous with all the great reviews. especially in lowlight situations. And those are times the situations for which I have bought the cam.
I'm there or oversensitive?
Antwort von Yerri:
You can see synonymous with "trunk" recordings and the synonymous Lowlightaufnahmen in his blog that with "Hilp" Camera something is not right. I, too, after one year HF100 such images to complete strangers.
Antwort von hilpers:
Hi all.
I've posted the camera, after willich this time.
after a week she came back hat.
The result sobering. "Problems could not be traced.
angsichts the recordings that I've sent along a bare face. I will now turn on a lawyer.
Hold her for the right method?
Antwort von tommyb:
Ever seen those phone calls and with a technician directly to it being addressed? Writing can be a lot if the sides are long enough;)
Antwort von hilpers:
how do you mean?
should send in so I called there, before I sent the cam there, whereupon technician told me that I gets it. I really must say that I'm mad as hell. particularly surprised me the following sentence: "The stripes of you criticized in certain lighting situations can not be eliminated"
In my opinion, both the time after that the technician gets the werder have exactly angesehehn, otherwise they would not have used the singular form of stripes, as synonymous, that my letter had miteingeschikt I was not read carefully.
Call now again?
Antwort von Yerri:
I would not be satisfied with this statement synonymous.
Antwort von tommyb:
Call now and again ask the technician who looked at this.
The phenomenon I only know of very old CCDs. If certain areas are too dark, the power to add the GAIN and these areas will attract exactly those unsightly marks as your sample video.
Antwort von domain:
... angsichts the recordings that I've sent along a bare face. I will now turn on a lawyer.
It is like when you go
where you will be Hitler and Canon, the company Ismeier.
Have fun, I can only say that is because you will win the process. Morally ....
A lot of experience with sensors in the border area so you do not seem to have no prospect, therefore, a complaint.
Antwort von hilpers:
@ domain: a better comment to you was probably a no!
Many thanks to all the others.
So I will call there again this afternoon and should bear no fruit, I will attack again on the phone to my lawyer and place an order.
Antwort von deti:
@ domain: a better comment to you was probably a no! In the German language, the word is masculine comment. It is therefore called
"the comment" ... I will attack again on the phone and my lawyer to place an order. Well then good luck!
Deti
Antwort von hilpers:
cool!
Thank you!
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Synonymous wish you good luck, you can fully understand that you are frustrated. I have ordered today synonymous nor HF10, I do hope this error in my presence.
But can not you achieve what the dealer where you purchased. I know such a thing of my HP notebook, since it is quite stinky, who did not synonymous, and pointed out I had changed, but with much loss.
Let's hear what what happened to you and what came out.
Antwort von domain:
Would you, the HD30, which has made this claim Picture synonymous?
It comes from one of the first test AVCHD clips that have been published.
I'm pretty sure the HF100 is in order. Such a noise in conjunction with stripes are there in certain situations, with all sensors. A new HF100 is expected to provide any other result.
Synonymous, I could say I have never seen in my HD40, the respective filmmakers will go to lawyer ;-)
Antwort von hilpers:
Thanks for the reply.
In the picture did come very close to my problem! However, it occurs even at not very dark situations and to strengthen themselves with the darkness.
I admit that I am of the technical details of sensors etc do not have a lot ahnung.
But a question that I ask myself have long zielmich is why the stripes on photos in exactly the same situations do not they?
Antwort von hilpers:
Oh, yes. And then there are the videos on youtube do that made me very envious! ;)
Antwort von Interlaced_Killer:
Let's not confuse yourself of all the people who have everything in life can be like and now, alone even out of envy, anyone who defends himself confirm that he had no chance anyway because the corporations bla bla ...
Prepare well for the process, eg with
- Reference material of other cameras
- (Printing of advertising promises, for example, s.5 Lux)
- Definition of "Lux" according to Wikipedia
And for the first Diet you print images from the comparative size and color, highlighting the key facts, so the stupidest synonymous judge can understand it.
I think you manage!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Comparative material of other cameras ... That is a useful starting point, even without erstmal the judiciary must strive to: Had interesting, how does another HF100 (; or HF10) under identical conditions and settings. "Hilp", can muster a second identical camera, so you can do this test? Comparison shots at different times and places have indeed s.anderen not make much sense.
... Prepare well before the process (eg with ... printing of advertising promises, for example s.5 Lux) ... The advertised with some lux number is already worth a farthing in the prospectus - as it is good before the court even less. Such arguments plucked you from the legal department, the trainee still half asleep ;-)
Antwort von hilpers:
Sun
I would like s.dieser ask all those who have weitergeholfen me in the form of constructive comments and uploads, very grateful.
I have the "fall" announced-as-handed to my lawyer and the Case has been a gratifying result: Canon tells yo are willing to refund the purchase amount.
it's remarkable how little is achieved, despite efforts and obvious deficiencies without legal counsel.
Defect diverse alternative (; Sony, Panasonic), it is now canon probably another one. view of many satisfied customers (; to whom I count myself apart of this case synonymous!), this step might not be as bad times.
gruß
Antwort von Yerri:
Congratulations!
Glad we should stop but do not always move as quickly .* tail g *
