Infoseite // the crucial question: macbook or windows notebook?



Frage von zoska:


in search of a reliable and stable notebook synonymous with whom I have a film can be cut, I am always on appleanita gestolpert. I now consider whether it makes sense for a macbook (2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor / 2GB RAM) to decide whether one or for the same money is not even a windows device gets better?

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Antwort von High_Tension:

Frah one of Apple's preference and he will tell you: take the Macbook. Ask one of the preferred Windows and it will tell you: Take a Windows notebook.
If you have the notebook primarily want to cut, make the choice of just your favorite editing system dependent. Otherwise, you can completely neutral say that hardware technology on Windows side more for his money gets, however, synonymous with more compatibility problems than the Mac has to struggle ... synonymous with Macs zig happy, but where it is holding "a feature";)

As you can see: to your question is no concrete answer in my eyes

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Antwort von Indiana:

I have both and both annoyed me with rum.
Only advantage of the Mac's is the one less about the operating system itself to deal with.

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Antwort von schlaflos011:

Advantage of the MAC - FINAL CUT STUDIO

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Antwort von M-Kult:

"Indiana" wrote: I have both and both annoyed me with rum.
Only advantage of the Mac's is the one less about the operating system itself to deal with.


Would I then sign it.

Work synonymous with both systems, but in the sound engineering.
Find Mac but it's more zig with external hardware.
That is when my Winbook and external hardware is not the same thing.

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Antwort von SammyGray:

Purchase yourself a clever Windows-based notebook with its 1920 resolution, Duocore, 4GB Ram and 2 large FP.

An intelligent graphics card would be synonymous for the purpose of rendering is not bad. These have then most synonymous an HDMI output.

With the large resolution Can we work very well! I would never take back what it!

If money plays no role, at Alienware venom:)

Greeting Sammy

Oh because the operating system. Yes it can get a stripped down version, where everything you unötige Rauswirfst. I have always been synonymous made ... and almost had no crashes:)

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Antwort von zoska:

hey, first thanks for the reply number.

ask s.schlaflos11:'ve never worked with final cut - what is it better?

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Antwort von mann:

Quote: Purchase yourself a clever Windows-based notebook ...

SORRY that I must get there, but this is a contradiction in terms.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Mann" wrote: Quote: Purchase yourself a clever Windows-based notebook ...

SORRY that I must get there, but this is a contradiction in terms.


Betting that "man" to the Church belongs to Apple!

PS. the best response in the thread is still of High_Tension. The opinion, I fully and entirely.

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Antwort von schlaflos011:

http://www.apple.com/de/finalcutstudio/

when mac - then final cut studio! (or Final Cut Express)

what editing software do you use currently?

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"SammyGray" wrote: Purchase yourself a clever Windows-based notebook
I like the Macs do not, but since Winbugs Würgsda is clever with the Windows machines so difficult ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Mac, Mac, Mac!

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Antwort von masterseb:

"zoska" wrote: hey, first thanks for the reply number.

ask s.schlaflos11:'ve never worked with final cut - what is it better?


everything: D on a mac uses multimedia technology all in each other, perfectly integrated. the system can easily handle with large files, irritates the processor fully and thanks liefter quicktime always a good result. After years of working premiere, I am now Seeliger final cut user. it flutscht everything. if you know what you are doing, but it has to be synonymous with premiere. on the subject can be, as he likes, purely for multimedia mac has the nose ahead.

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Antwort von schlaflos011:



is the super ;-)

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Antwort von Conducator:

now they are back again, which of the "apple-church" (very aptly immanuelkant) tended Rumors: Windows PC is good for nothing, but Apple brings eternal salvation.

So very clearly and well with my PC and my Vista comes with the DV editing (and synonymous otherwise) there are no problems. Everything is nicely integrated, stable and performant! I am satisfied and recommend you a Windows-based notebook!

Video can be with Mac and Windows intersect. The Windows PC (rsp. notebook) but has a better price-/Leistungsverhältnis.
The processing quality and reliability of the system determines the Notebook-/PC-Manufacturer today and the assembled parts of him - not just another operating system.

PS. even on the new (rather schwachbrüstigen) Netbook with single-core Atom processor running Vista to the surprise of critics very performant (and even the battery lasts longer!).
http://www.eeepcnews.de/2008/07/16/vista-liebt-die-intel-atom-cpu/
http://forum.msi-wind.de/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=713&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=vista

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Antwort von raymaker:

"masterseb" wrote: "zoska" wrote: hey, first thanks for the reply number.

ask s.schlaflos11:'ve never worked with final cut - what is it better?


purely for multimedia mac has the nose ahead.

And Windows uses it not enough? I have even a Macbook Pro. Yes, video editing works well with the MBP. But to say that would be not so in Windows, is simply wrong. I am very satisfied with both, both take nothing.

Purchase dir ne Windows box if you have power for your money want. If you have a lot of money, then buy yourself NEN Mac. The fact that you hear everywhere is better Mac is not true. The cook synonymous only with water, and just in the video field seems to be a kind Realitätsstörfeld to form * g *

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Antwort von Meggs:

A Windows PC with clean install now works just as good as a Mac. However if you uncounted tools from dubious sources, and possibly a few viruses running is the performance and stability there.
A Mac can this not so quick to load, because not much shareware and freeware available.
There is plenty s.Hardware, for which no Mac drivers exist hardly reversed.
If Windows: if you have Adobe CS2 or conveniently ran comes recommended to XP because CS2 under Vista not working properly.

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Antwort von Axel:

Here, everything has been said, except for one: On a MacBook with 13er display (also brilliantly) SD can be very well cut. In HD's both uncomfortable as synonymous of assessing her impossible. Sure, you can use a external monitor dranhängen, but what has the whole thing then to do with mobility? For all who have made in the café or on the train to be cut: That will not happen. Man cuts in the seats, concentrated, troublemakers unloaded or gagged.

For the simplest claims (Adobe with Windows, Mac with Final Cut Pro), it is clear that Apple is cheaper. For the medium demands (for Apple MacPro comes AAE with Automatic Duck to) you can with a PC for much less money to build a cut square (literally, empty box, filled with components, pieselige details, such as the right fan decide Drivers with ), the however, always seen a lot of patience and s.Geschick ahead. In several five-area, the financial stratosphere, there is anyway only to Avid and Final Cut Pro propagated. Such a cut can be square with the requirements of the thread starter is no longer assessed.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Axel" wrote:
For the simplest claims (Adobe with Windows, Mac with Final Cut Pro), it is clear that Apple is cheaper.


So 'simple claims' but rather are with Windows Magix Video Studio or.
And cheap - VirtualDub and Avidemux.

Otherwise lags eh s.allen Comparison of the corners and ends.
A 399, - to the grocery discounter notebook with the smallest MacBook to compare it brings nothing.
A more open architecture with a fairly closed system (which you can then extend the same on Linux, the synonymous on the known hardware and yet to open itself s.Kernel rumfrickeln is) ... Apples, pears, tomatoes, Borsch ... buy what you want, hauptsache the economy is growing. : P

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Antwort von Axel:

"Daigoro" wrote: So 'simple claims' but rather are with Windows Magix Video Studio or.
[...]
Otherwise lags eh s.allen Comparison of the corners and ends.
A 399, - to the grocery discounter notebook with the smallest MacBook to compare it brings nothing.
[...]
... Apples, pears, tomatoes, Borsch ...

You can with the WMM Giselle Bundchen a film cut (see the Apple spot), and FCS with a home video with Klaus Kaputnik in Grandmas dress, this is a truism. If however a skew comparisons leads to the field, you're it.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Daigoro" wrote: "Axel" wrote:
For the simplest claims (Adobe with Windows, Mac with Final Cut Pro), it is clear that Apple is cheaper.


So 'simple claims' but rather are with Windows Magix Video Studio or.
And cheap - VirtualDub and Avidemux.

Otherwise lags eh s.allen Comparison of the corners and ends. ...: P


Just wanted to write exactly the same, but since you had it already getant.
So I stress again that here sustainably! The advantage when Windows-PC/-Notebook is mainly that the user has the choice. And as I have for the "simplest rights" is really not the combination of Windows Adobe + On. Can you make, you must not: I have some point (as there are hardly any alternatives) with Adobe starting and am now even with my "average" claims under Ulead Video Studio, Liquid Edt. for Pinnacle Studio 11 ultimate landed - and am happy, because very effective!

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Antwort von Zizi:

naja da apple without technically efficient Intel no longer keep up with the PC could have had a contract with Intel to make them the stability does not.
In large part, even a PC with Vista reliable than a Mac!
(Of course Vista eats synonymous 3-4 times as much RAM)
The times of the G-books and the IBM, Motorola CPUs are gone ..
Apple is well on German designer in a PC case with mißerablen P / L!
Who it is and the more price-not afraid ...
You have, however, one major advantage: on a Macbook, you can use Windows and OSX.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Axel" wrote: If however a skew comparisons leads to the field, you're it.

Since I have not compared, I would very surprised.

Apart from 'no Verlgeiche' cars have 'skewed comparisons program. "

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Antwort von Axel:

"Daigoro" wrote: "Axel" wrote: If however a skew comparisons leads to the field, you're it.

Since I have not compared, I would very surprised.

Apart from 'no Verlgeiche' cars have 'skewed comparisons program. "

When asked PC or Mac is at long last, the question Final Cut Pro or something else. That it is possible on a MacBook, XP or Vista to install, but is purely academic. Your reference to other alternatives other than Adobe, for OSX are unknown. Legitimate, but something s.Thema over.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

There is still synonymous FCE and iMovie for the Mac, not just Final Cut Pro für nen 4-digit Euro amount.
From the starting post (stable notebook is synonymous with the film can be cut), I would be the 'low' claims rather as a start and Final Cut Pro as tend 's.Thema over' feeling.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

To questioners Zoska: You should perhaps test with whatever editing program you prefer to work out. Perhaps there is in your vicinity the Möglichkiet, s.einem (possibly current) Mac with (possibly current) Final Cut Pro. Then you can see if you like OSX. Because you will not only cut, but other things synonymous. And since it is already of advantage when a difference between the operating system and it can intuitively.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: To questioners Zoska: You should perhaps test with whatever editing program you prefer to work out. ... Then you can see if you like OSX. Because you will not only cut, but other things synonymous. And since it is already of advantage when a difference between the operating system and it can intuitively.

Hihi :-) what is it now again? Schleich Dear Michel, You're here as a missionary on the move?
Nobody is against Mac's. But is it beyond your imagination that people (in fact a significant number) who have absolutely no problem with a Windows calculator and have the surfaces for "intuitive" hold.
Dear michel creeping, I can be a PC to operate! I'm not at all synonymous hurt!
The 90s are over, where a Windows actually constantly flew around the ears! But when you remember the last?

If you are the creator Threat already aufforderst that he tested for the editing software should be able to decide who he is (which is basically not a bad proposal), then do it but not equal to the Mac fixed.
He would then be the average of test programs for Windows, which is very cheap for much cheaper Windows-based notebooks are.

@ Zoska ... and if you have previously only worked with Windows and you were satisfied, then there is no reason to switch to OSX. As you start because of the other operating philosophy totally unnecessary problems and are instead with the film-cutting with the rumäppeln employs ;-)

I would not synonymous übrigends Apple user rates - without reason - to switch to Windows. Should everyone be happy with the what he is accustomed and which he is happy. Here's just software and not about war / peace, life / death, religion or ideology! OR?

Video is cut on the PC on the Mac as equally. because no other platform has any advantage, if you want the money aside ....

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

1. Where I say that OSX is more intuitive to use than Windows? I merely pointed out that with an operating system should work, which is a well of the hand. And for some this may be Windows.

2. I assume that he has a win-Calculator. Since he can download demos anyway. I had only synonymous, but in the wake of better readability removed ... because it is so synonymous trite to point out. Only use him a demo version of Final Cut Pro on a Win-Calculator is not quite so much, why ... because he has asked ... to get a Mac-specific Final Cut-out close watch should be.

And what I have written, can be synonymous without this version so well understood. Maybe you just wanted to misunderstand. Typical win-user (<- this is a joke)! ;)

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Antwort von Zizi:

This is anyway a question verherende Forum ..
You should buy what his circle and he himself is accustomed to work.
Because Apple is far too expensive and too boring windows but was known to everyone.
Personally, I work professionally with MAC and privately with Vista .. and if you properly configure Vista times and has made runs synonymous with no problems .. honestly, I with my Macbook OSX öffter trailers and as abstürtze Now with Vista, unfortunately .. !
Apple no longer seems synonymous to the times what it was.
Compatibility problems with various programs, but rather we have with OSX .. but on MAC you can install win anyway so there would be already synonymous of snow yesterday!

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: 1. Where I say that OSX is more intuitive to use than Windows?

You make it plainly and clearly:
"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: Then you can see if you like OSX. Because you will not only cut, but other things synonymous. And since it is already of advantage when a difference between the operating system and it can intuitively.

And again: I think it is negligent Not without someone to guess the operating system to switch! That is and remains an adventure in which you should know what you discover or adequately prepared to risk.

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Antwort von schlaflos011:

Quote: Video is cut on the PC on the Mac as equally. because no other platform has any advantage, if you want the money aside ....


I see the same! But ..... ;-)

For my old Windows calculator I ever needed a friend to me always the box of small wehwehchen "freed. And without a firewall and virus protection is s.PC nothing.

For 2 years I've started MacUser and swear really - because I am with Cubase and Magix Video Deluxe knew perfectly deal. The switch to Logic and Final Cut has given me many sleepless nights * g * prepares. But now klappts and with the operating system must not I rumärgern. Viruses are synonymous "or" a foreign word from Apple. (or I've just been lucky only 2 years)

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Antwort von mann:

"Zizi" wrote: .. honestly, I with my Macbook OSX öffter trailers and as abstürtze Now with Vista, unfortunately .. !

which do you think it does not.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Mann" wrote: "Zizi" wrote: .. honestly, I with my Macbook OSX öffter trailers and as abstürtze Now with Vista, unfortunately .. !

which do you think it does not.


Aha "man" is not only a representative of the Apple Church, he is even of the Inquisition, which cares for Apostates! * lol *

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Times I go to eat noodles.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"schlaflos011" wrote: And without a firewall and virus protection is s.PC nothing.)
Is a Mac around so unattractive that no hacker wants to get? ;-)
No. times in all seriousness now synonymous Apple must be mechanisms to ward of viruses and other access available. And Vista is currently in the rest as the most secure operating system. Since XP is an integrated firewall in the AL, which you as user synonymous rarely perceive. It is just simply because and protects. Sure, you can alternatively synonymous other firewalls install extra ...

"schlaflos011" wrote:
For 2 years I've started MacUser and swear really - because I am with Cubase and Magix Video Deluxe knew perfectly deal. The switch to Logic and Final Cut has given me many sleepless nights * g * prepares.

The problem here was just next above. This happens necessarily stop when the OS changes. You should save it if you can ....

"schlaflos011" wrote:
But now klappts and with the operating system must not I rumärgern. Viruses are synonymous "or" a foreign word from Apple. (or I've just been lucky only 2 years)


it's more like "happiness" or "normal" just like my Windows PC, the synonymous makes absolutely no problems ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

It is about professional Programs and not-Amateuer Pinnacle nonsense.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"PowerMac" wrote: It is about professional Programs and not-Amateuer Pinnacle nonsense.
* lol * na finally, he is back from the pasta dinner! I bet some here have already pointed gewarte that you enlighten us at last!

Yes people who do not know: The self is now the "professional" and failed film student Patrick Banfield, who is universally loved for his kind words that he used for other forum members will be happy, and of course, synonymous is widely appreciated for his unerring discernment .

I would you to the Pope of the Church Appel make - if only because of your power and of course because of the infallibility.

No, it's not unfair, I follow only PowerMacs wish:
"PowerMac" wrote: Slashcam, mocking me!
Apparently, he is synonymous masochist ...

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Antwort von Zizi:

So I think if you want the ultimate power in order to get a PC eh no rum ..
A 3GHz quad with 8gb ram RAID 0 u.1 etc. already get for under 1500 ¬ in appleanita sowas costs 5000 ¬.
and on top give you the tight 1 year warranty on such a calculator.
@ Next up: yes for me vista has never seen a crash or hang, etc. .. had Incidentally I have not even a virus without virus protection on it (until now)
In meienm Macbook, I had already 2 times in the Store:
once he can no longer boot .. (180 ¬ data)
at times was the 2nd Battery in the ass ..
I'm going to get after 2 years of hardcore Apple niemehr buy again.
Bin circles from my video is not the only one.
Sorry if I have some younger and Apple Fanboys've offended.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

"Conducator" wrote: "Surreptitious Michel" wrote: 1. Where I say that OSX is more intuitive to use than Windows?

You make it plainly and clearly:
"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: Then you can see if you like OSX. Because you will not only cut, but other things synonymous. And since it is already of advantage when a difference between the operating system and it can intuitively.


You do not understand how I had meant, right? Perhaps he would find out that he is anything but OSX intuitively feels. And before you think about it, to change the system (and again: THIS WAS ALSO PART OF THE INPUT QUESTION! MAC or PC!), It is the context of the system at once. I write not to say that he will find that OSX better / more intuitive is because OSX only two sentences previously mentioned.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: ...
You do not understand how I had meant, right? Perhaps he would find out that he is anything but OSX intuitively feels. ...


Well let's be honest: what you wrote and what you now want to have meant (I doubt it not) but it opens up (synonymous to me, for example) are not really from the original text. There was in the formulations of the misunderstanding inevitable.
But now you're both so hopefully it conclusively settled.

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Antwort von zoska:

Very nice. I can see, the representatives of different systems, the level of simple practicality leave and whet the sword. Nevertheless, I have both options are many good arguments to read when I'm listing, I am probably smarter than before - but similarly undecided. Finally, there will probably have a gut decision. Since I have to admit, my stomach tends to Apple.

Among the various Fagen s.meine Address: basically, I can not say I am very satisfied with windows would be, with vista even less. so I imagine the question whether I should not change. A pc would certainly be the best yield for the Money comes to me but not in question. Even if I cut safely at home, I am also often on the need and the calculator then synonymous - and the 'home' in my life is just a very indistinct notion - it would be pointless on a stationary Calculator severely limited.
@ schlaflos11: until now adobe premiere

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Antwort von motiongroup:

I get to you, neither of ZOSKA writes something on his way where it should go even what kind of material he wants to handle it and skin you in a kind of holy war is the root an ...

Sensationally all respect.

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Antwort von Sam Steez:

For Apple, it is this: you pay more for an electrical device in the white housing design with his apple to get it. Then you are cool. In the housing inside: nothing earth.
That's why I like Apple is not an excessive price for a brand.

I know a nem with the iMac and had a thousand times more so that hardware and software problems as I have with my PC. Mighty Mouse (p.45 Euro) s.Arsch, DVD drive, CD spat is no longer sufficient, Mac hangs on, bla bla bla, everything Mac experience ... at my PC the mouse is synonymous already broken, but did not cost 45 Euros ... So I'm clear on the PC Page, of course, synonymous if synonymous has its flaws ...

On the Mac User: How reliable are euro Apple products, is synonymous with you something broke down (which actually should not break or longer should be) or are the whole problem that I know of ne exception?

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Antwort von mann:

The friendly exchange of views about Winbugs reminds me somehow s.einen acquittal to McDonalds:

Eat more shit, 10 billion flies can not be wrong.

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Antwort von schlaflos011:

Quote: On the Mac User: How reliable are euro Apple products, is synonymous with you something broke down (which actually should not break or longer should be) or are the whole problem that I know of ne exception?

For 3 years I have had no problems with my iMac, no problems since 1.5 with the MacBookPro.

A RAM upgrade to 2GB iMac did really well. HDV editing was previously somewhat sluggish.

When MacBookPro with 4GB ran everything super fast.

ZOSKA: MacBook and FCE, you will certainly not regret it.
My brother is with this combi very happy.
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Final-Cut-Express-4-.html

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Antwort von M-Kult:

If you are not a lot of wishes to make clear is that the world is mainly for Windows PC's produced and glad spends more money, but you sometimes get higher quality components, which would be a Mac with good advice. But the important programs, there are of course also for the Mac, as this nunmal in the industry are often used. (Graphics, music, film)

Those who prefer the full benefit of the software would like to offer (Mac only software times out .. Logic, Final Cut, etc.)
prefer to spend less, and this partly inferior components in a notebook, which is safe with a Windows notebook happier.

I personally, would be synonymous me buy a MacBook, but my home (desktop) computer is and remains a Windows-based PC!

I would then always to a Macbook with the maximum possible power draw, RAM and HDD upgrade, rather than a Powerbook to buy.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Sam Steez" wrote: On the Mac User: How reliable are euro Apple products, is synonymous with you something broke down (which actually should not break or longer should be) or are the whole problem that I know of ne exception?
Mighty Mouse: Lasts up to one year. Alternative: Logitech, not even an issue.
CD does not eject CD was defective, was not aborted Einlesesevorgang solution: restart, when you turn the mouse button or trackpad button. Done twice, CD has been synonymous of DVD players do not read.
Program hangs or crashes: Very rare, but this is probably synonymous workflow of the user. Safari has crashed, but it is silly anyway. Alternative: Firefox, faster, more stable, compatible with many sides.
Computer crashes: Never in 10 years now.
A Mac-user makes a lot of wind around the smallest Wehwehchen that a PC user does not even worth talking about would.

Windows:
Already s.einem Bürotag a nuisance is the rule, rather more frequently.
Today: Premiere hangs s.Ende a wmv export to and needs to close. On the second pass klappt's. Since you are happy.

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Antwort von Alan Smithee:

@ ZOSKA: Purchase 'you like the system where you feel comfortable. I think it's synonymous a question, what man with his way of working and its working processes rooted and is happy.

Personally, I have the following experience with the various operating systems made - although I believe that the operating system and not the hardware decides how a computer "feels":
Linux is command-line tend to dislike, it is very flexible and well-automated, but unfortunately I see in the field of audio / video is not exactly a strength.
The handling of the Mac OS is rather heavy mouse and the GUI is quite consistent. Mac OS makes me a powerful impression and you notice (in the positive sense) is actually not that a GUI on a UNIX-core server was installed.
Windows - my experience is based on Vista since RC2 - is somewhere in between. Windows is fully keyboard operable, but things are often only half-implemented.
I often have the impression that Windows users like s.vielen setscrews upside down, to reach its destination, while the controls on the Mac sometimes with a few options less restrictive and you must rely on - and can usually synonymous -- that the software the rest of the parameters set correctly.

If you come in so clear that the handling of the computer of your past habits differ, then try just the Mac - you are indeed still have the opportunity to return to Windows or parallel.
If your current way of working s.Calculator you is holy, then you'll get with Mac OS X is not happy.

On the financial aspect: The Mac may be the purchase of expensive, but usually it is synonymous longer used or is worth more stable if you sell it again. If you can not endure, however, a few euros more for a non-directly quantifiable advantage, then let the finger from the Mac.

I hope you order a little in the decision to have helped.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Tablet Pc

Email progi; viruses progi; Photoshop, Corel, Flash, Maxon, Bulletproof FTP client, Winamp 2.0, Dragon Naturally Speaking, VLC, Trillian, Skype ....... everything else is down miss, NEN few macros and created via a MultiMedia Builder GUI gebastelt.

SATISFIED

For my work perfectly .....( NEN trackball or as extra USB tuned plus s Wacom pen set. HeadSet Good)

I can not complain, but offers me no Mac Tablet PC and I work a lot with Wacom for years there is a Tablet PC for me i Tüpferle.

So to Plediere Tablet PC s meanwhile wenns to "mobile" Calculator geht.Gibt in my field of activity is currently nothing better.

MFG
B. DeKid

PS.
Even the comic is no Final Cut Pro on the PC s are times would be interesting to see who is the shareholder are and if that was not a marketing gimmick is to divide the camp? -)

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Antwort von M-Kult:

"B. DeKid" wrote: Even the comic is no Final Cut Pro on the PC s are times would be interesting to see who is the shareholder are and if that was not a marketing gimmick is to divide the camp? -)

It is like the exclusive game titles for PS3 or Xbox360, the reasons should be buying.

And there are certainly some who are due to Final Cut or Logic NEN Mac have increased.

But on the other, since Apple Intel installed, I have been synonymous OSX on a Windows computer Selbstbau seen, everything is now possible, just not quite legal. ;)

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Antwort von Zizi:

Windows is boring and cheap
Apple is Nice and will be very expensive.
Now I think he knows what a Mac has amenities and what not.
However, I find it shitty if all against the system of the "other side" and 0 scoff plan.
1. Since Vista's long security breaches, crashes and more like it was previously Windows Typisch.
2.Apple simply has the better ideas and practical joints.
3.The Apple in contrast to Neupreis less depreciation would have about me. It was times .. !
4. Apple is neither the film nor in the media industry often uses such as personal computers!
5. Programs such as Adobe or Avid etc. etc. not to run Windows on Apple still better!
If we compare this work with simple competitor H & M and D & G ..
What is better now that the customer can pay the sales and distribution anyway speak for themselves!

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Antwort von M-Kult:

Macs are used in industry are not often used, but who nunmal with all the data easily work you need a Mac synonymous in the company.

I would never be a customer because of faith to be missed.

A Windows PC comes with me in front of a television and one for me for basic equipment (a fortiori s.Arbeitsplatz), a Mac is an add-on in the workplace, especially if you are in the Medienbrachne move is essential, so I see the .

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

IMAGE you want your opinion!
"schlaflos011" wrote:

How beautiful, the Springer-Verlag so. Well, s.dem but I really never orentiert .. and it will probably synonymous never do! :-)

"M-cult" wrote: .... but who nunmal with all the data easily work you need a Mac synonymous in the company.
....

Well, I think synonymous for a rumor. My IT company exists since 38 years and earns good money and generates continuous growth. Our customers (and ourselves) to use Windows and Linux. Nothing more.
What I have in the IT industry overviews (and this is' ne lot), because the Mac plays absolutely no role. Maybe in the media industry otherwise.

Anyway, nothing against Apple; Who the "hip" and will thus feel that has my blessings - but to be me (and others) please do not try with plates, abgewetzten arguments for Christianity! I'm (synonymous) are not stupid and knows almost exactly what I am doing and why.

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Antwort von M-Kult:

"immanuelkant" wrote:
Well, I think synonymous for a rumor. My IT company exists since 38 years and earns good money and generates continuous growth. Our customers (and ourselves) to use Windows and Linux. Nothing more.
What I have in the IT industry overviews (and this is' ne lot), because the Mac plays absolutely no role. Maybe in the media industry otherwise.


Was maybe a bit too generalized, because I give you right. :)

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"immanuelkant" wrote: (...) Our customers (and ourselves) to use Windows and Linux. Nothing more.
What I have in the IT industry overviews (and this is' ne lot), because the Mac plays absolutely no role. Maybe in the media industry otherwise. (...)


More than a smiley face is not worth your contribution. Drum::)

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"PowerMac" wrote:
More than a smiley face is not worth your contribution. Drum::)


Oh Mr. Banfield, here and not in Hollywood?

... 've got used to me: the truly valuable contributions come here only of you and the truth you have just rented anyway. Let good times ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"immanuelkant" wrote: "PowerMac" wrote:
More than a smiley face is not worth your contribution. Drum::)


Oh Mr. Banfield, here and not in Hollywood?
(...)


Much better: in Slashcam forum.

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Antwort von Axel:

"immanuelkant" wrote: Anyway, nothing against Apple; Who the "hip" and will thus feel that has my blessings - but to be me (and others) please do not try with plates, abgewetzten arguments for Christianity! I'm (synonymous) are not stupid and knows almost exactly what I am doing and why. If someone else in the forum about the sound condescending - always - "own" operating system speaks swells a comb. Hereby we are all here, even if it is not noticed. This can go on forever and leads to nothing. The opposition Windows> Mac is already a myth, and like all myths babies laugh later about the excitement. Forget it.

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Antwort von robl21f:

always refreshing and good for a smile such discussions of this type, if user already convinced convincing other user want to convince :-)) - and so pointless, fruitless and old as mankind ... what is better: mac or pc? what goes better mercedes or bmw? who beischläft better blonde or brunette? which is still behind the enemy dead: morgenstern or sword? what tastes better: bison or Mamut? ....

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Antwort von Zizi:

The sales figures speak for themselves ...
From me from apple could be the market leader, but they are not about what I use most of them have / can / need to possible problems auszuschliesen!
The Apple "inadvertent" computer so I will not doubt but they are hardly represented times now and we are about driving in Europe synonymous with Lenkrat and not with joystick!
If a car company on the idea would be so overpriced White joystick car would build on the other hand, I also synonymous when it would be better.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Zizi is a very great adventurer who wants to stand out and swims against the tide. He has courage and cutting.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Well actually Mac users are the brave 5% to swim against the tide.
Precisely because Dennen me I must always have the compatibility problems bescheuert it in my work there!
If any Windows or Apple would have been in the IT industry a lot less stress ..
Precisely for this reason, economic Apple never come about 10%.
Just imagine if it is 50:50 which would cover any problems since ... Unfortunately, Apple is sitting on his own Stur-rail firmly.
The world would be so nice if the times of their Quicktime, Safari, itunes shit would come down and open times for other software, size, etc. would be if there were a lot fewer problems with Windows / Linux.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Zizi" wrote: The world would be so nice if the times of their Quicktime, Safari, itunes shit would come down and open times for other software, size, etc. would be if there were a lot fewer problems with Windows / Linux. Is it not you, that the "stubborn adherence" (to quote you) s.der compatibility with Microsoft a lot of developments in recent years not only would have set in motion? Because the user - friendliness of Windows is always next trend has been improved, and only a genuine Windows fundamentalist could deny that OSX for the model was. From his whole philosophy since Microsoft is a great equalizer, the billions on his system methodology forces. The vision of a computer world where the needs of users dominate, it is not fired.

Who as a new Mac user, it is no uncommon experience: This feature of your browser is not supported. Eg If he wants to book a trip, he must install a different browser. Let the market regulate it. Safari is not an argument for Apple, and s.denen would be to ensure compatibility.

Are you web designer, etc. and ärgerst you about the extra work, let yourself be said: With completely standardized protocols you sitting in your lonely Kabachel and shake test for your job.

iTunes usfinden sufficiently fans seem to turn to others to force compatibility. Good? Bad? That is the market.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Axel" wrote: ... Who as new Mac users, it is no uncommon experience: This feature of your browser is not supported. Eg If he wants to book a trip, he must install a different browser ...
That is, in principle, but even though I with an old version of Safari only very rarely have this problem. Then just as we differ on from Firefox, such as the Windows users do synonymous, which is not Microsoft's Internet Explorer and want to deliver.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Meggs:

In the C't gabs mal NEN Comparison OSX 10.5 versus Windows Vista. Brief Conclusion: Both operating systems work, move regarding reliability and usability at a similar level.

When the hardware is bad Apple computers with PC's in general compare. All of Apple Macs will be designed and distributed. The claim is clearly on a good quality and standard synonymous to good design.
PC's are a variety of companies assembled and distributed. From the cheapest scrap Edelrechner to find everything.
Of course, the cheap PC's are cheaper than Macs, but synonymous worse. High-quality PC's are not a Mac, but are not synonymous (much) cheaper. Among high-understand way, I do not have a quad with cheapest power supply and fan, ram and onboard graphics from dubious sources.
What the user friendliness and intuition is concerned: The man is a habit. Years of Mac users will find the intuitive Mac, PC Page on the same vice versa.

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Antwort von Zizi:

@ Megger: That is nothing to add!

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Antwort von Axel:

"Zizi" wrote: @ Megger: That is nothing to add! Only conciliation: A clip to smile on the idyllic XP
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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"Axel" wrote: .... A clip to smile on the idyllic XP world.

***** 5 of 5 STARS SAU GEIL Stickmen FLASH ANIME LOVE ;-)

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