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ton angeln mit canon xl1s?

ton fishing with canon XL1S?



Frage von jimi:
Juni 2007

hi have a Canon XL1S.

if so I would like the ton fishing, there is clearly only the possibility of a new external micro zuzulegen.

in his other thread, you can read it for the "canon-double connection" micro-that, as part of a very good thing, no possibility for extension there. and the synonymous not particularly meaningful.

but my question is: should I now have a xlr-shoulder support for 100 ¬ buy, or is there somehow a cinch audio output, which I simply could adapt to xlr?

can help me with the opportunity vll someone with a micro good value for money call. anything below 100 ¬!

Many thanks for your reply.

jimi



Antwort von Markus:

"jimi" wrote:
... there is somehow a cinch audio output, which I simply could adapt to xlr?

You can cinch on XLR adapt (there are ready-made adapters), but this relationship is unbalanced, firstly, secondly, provides a no Microphone and line level, third, you can not output to a signal source here. Ergo: It would not work.

If the cable is restricted, you may want to begin with a well-shielded, unbalanced cable attempt. XLR balanced would be perfect.



Antwort von camtv:

So the MA 100, you mean, changing only the connection. The signal remains unbalanced.

But there is an old trick sound! DI Box! (backward)

The makes of his unbalanced signal trafosymetrisches with Mic Level.

Now you can but you synonymous a good DI Box (if you want synonymous active) at www.Thomann.de, or buy it, and "reverse" operation.

You need only have XLR Changer. And Jack / RCA

You go with the MIC as long as possible via XLR cable. On the camera then you have the DI box and go on into the XL1 cinch.

This is called a professional then transformer with Aufholverstärkung! "

Do not tell - is knowledge offender ;-))))

There are such boxes synonymous with 48 V phantom power, then you can use a high quality synonymous connect Kondenser.








Antwort von camtv:

"jimi" wrote:
hi have a Canon XL1S.

can help me with the opportunity vll someone with a micro good value for money call. anything below 100 ¬!

jimi


Ne, you can not. Somewhat less than 1000 ¬



Antwort von jimi:

My question was actually just now, whether I use the xlr-shoulder support or do not.

why should the signal with this still unbalanced?
which is specially designed, I thought.

Quote:
But there is an old trick sound! DI Box! (backward)


because there are a passive di box for 10 ¬. something would be in order?
how exactly do you mean with backward? sounds somewhat unconventional and at materialschädigend;)

Quote:
You go with the MIC as long as possible via XLR cable. On the camera then you have the DI box and go on into the XL1 cinch.


then yes I müssste the box somehow s.die camera stick, or does it work if I NEN meter or two about going cinch that someone else can wear them? :) also requires the di-box but synonymous nor a power supply, right? hab irgendwie angst that something in the short NEN causes cam: P

Quote:
You need only have XLR Changer. And Jack / RCA


I have but a "change", I think, when you create an adapter xlr / cinch think, or what? Incidentally, what I've another question NUD ... please do not laugh me out because I have no idea how egsagt! but in this adapter to 2 XLR connectors into ports 2 cinch what exactly? EPORT but one, or not? synonymous, I can connect JUST A micro?
and then I need another cinch / jack adapter in the box to come, right? it is better then vll jack on the meter to go on a cinch?

Quote:
hi have a Canon XL1S.

can help me with the opportunity vll someone with a micro good value for money call. anything below 100 ¬!

jimi

Ne, you can not. Somewhat less than 1000 ¬


hmm, I think that now is not? but at thomann gibts judge capacitor microphone with a cardioid polar pattern p. 80 ¬ http://www.thomann.de/de/audio_technica_atr55.htm

Thank you for all ANSWERS AND THE EFFORT!

with friendly greet
jimi



Antwort von jimi:

nobody can give me more help `?



Antwort von ZappaF.:

Mic of the linked to you, you can directly connect s.der XL1, have the same synonymous, but rather unsuitable for fishing, because of required cable length can lead to massive disturbances, hum ... come, so what better really real with symmetrical transmission!



Antwort von utan:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Mic of the linked to you, you can directly connect s.der XL1, have the same synonymous, but rather unsuitable for fishing, because of required cable length can lead to massive disturbances, hum ... come, so what better really real with symmetrical transmission!

Contributors of me sorry



Antwort von jimi:

So what is correct?
The shoulder support for 200 ¬
or can I use the method which was described above, with the DI box backwards "for 10 ¬ synonymous safely use?



Antwort von ZappaF.:

Quote:
Mic of the linked to you, you can directly connect s.der XL1, have the same synonymous, but rather unsuitable for fishing, because of required cable length can lead to massive disturbances, hum ... come, so what better really real with symmetrical transmission!


but you do not now, d ass the micro specifically unsuitable for fishing, but only the method, it directly s.die cam adapter, or not?



Antwort von utan:

asymmetric transmission is not easy to transfer over great distances. For good reason s.mic is only a fixed 70cm cable. okay a lot can still safely with high-quality cables, but the cost so much that the monetary equivalent in synonymous accessories for symmetric transmission can invest.
with the di-box kenn ich mich nicht aus ..



Antwort von jimi:

Thank you!

but I can vll nochmal anyone confirm or advise of this di-box method?

:)
jimi








Antwort von Markus:

DI boxes, I have only electronic (active) and the converse can not test. At least in theory should make it with a passive DI box to function as long as no level change takes place.

More info:
Wikipedia: DI-Box

Alternativ käme synonymous ein XLR -Adapters of BeachTek


Antwort von jimi:

so. now have something new to read. in the book (there will now be back Various responses) "Hollywood for bargain hunters - Digital shooting of Frank Sauerland writes in this chapter" 3 Sound "that called for cameras without xlr connection, with only 3.5 mm jack plug, cheap an adapter can be soldered.

I quote:
Quote:
In the music business, they receive the necessary connector. TV technician when they buy a low-frequency cables with conductor and shield (wire mesh around the ader).
this cable must be back in the 3.5 mm jack fit.
plug in xlr xlr or the clutch (the equivalent of the plug) are now pins 1 and 3 bridges. At the Pole 2 comes ader, s.den united pin 1 is the mass soldered, so the shield of the cable.


the first edition of the book is of 2004. So right up to date, ALSO I mean, there was but in any case already xlr-jack adapter to buy, or are the garnicht? He also speaks s.anderer point of interruption vulnerability unscreened cables with unbalanced connections. then it is hardly the instructions to such a type here or not?



Antwort von Markus:

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