Infoseite // visible difference between FX7/HC7?



Frage von KameraD:


Servus,

begins her determined s.zu laugh now, but I ask myself whether the basis of the recordings can recognize whether it with a FX7 or HC7 was filmed. Can you see something?

Would like my hard-earned money to invest long term and thought it s.die FX7. That contradicts the first, but the fact that I do not have corresponding screen and have available in case of purchase of a long-term FX7 synonymous not come.

Has the FX7 controls exactly the same, less or even more?

Thank you for answering my questions. I hope I make myself not too stupid, but I'm new in this field.

Servus

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Antwort von ruessel:

The FX7 has a greater contrast in the picture and is in the practical handling of (film) projects better.

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Antwort von KameraD:

Will I be with the FX7 Beginner rather than be overwhelmed, or is it user friendly? The opportunity to see them live, I had unfortunately not yet.

Also, I've still no HD screen, but I think that's just not so tragic, is not it?

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Check it out after the FX1, the predecessor of the FX7 but from my point of view has some advantages. Zb. Larger chips. More Manual settings. Furthermore, the value of the percentage decline FX1 FX7 significantly lower as for the HC7

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Antwort von KameraD:

Yes, I myself have considered synonymous. Pity that s.der FX7 the display no longer as appropriate as s.der FX1. I like that somehow much better and is probably synonymous practical. But the FX7 is somewhat smaller and lighter than the FX1. 20-fold Tele synonymous, I think not so bad. Since I could in the beginning with more natural than with a wide-angular lens.

Really more manual settings?

Or is the FX7 still really too expensive for what they are in comparison to the FX1 or Canon XH-A1 can? This is at least in some reviews, ussynonymous at Slashcam.

I think not that there is a price the FX7 will be held, but if, then I would have no problem with it.

I think that the XH-A1 is priced so not far away. But from the blog of the trunk, it is probably more for experienced users and therefore for me, just not in question (synonymous because I do not have HD screen).

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

I was even before the decision FX7 or FX1, My choice is on the FX 1 gefallen. Hold a solid camera.
Look at the times. I think the Super Camera is built.

http://www.camcorderservice.nl/sony_fx1.htm

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Antwort von KameraD:

Hi Udo,

yes I want the camcorder does not decompose or so, but the photos are interesting and there are many synonymous buttons available. But it says nothing about the extent of control in the Comparison of the FX7. That the FX7 appears somewhat slimmed down, I have seen synonymous. Because some things are probably wandered into the menu, with the FX1 at the push of a button were to operate. Therefore, it might at first sight seem as if the FX1 would have more features. If only my conjecture.

Is it the shooting really simple, so dial button? I agree, for reasons of clarity and perhaps synonymous due to the speed.

What I recently noticed is that increasingly used FX1 offered on ebay. What could be the reason? And a bargain because it is usually synonymous not do. It has s.der HC1 already seen what happens when they are no longer officially offered. The used prices are extremely high. And sometimes there is still a HC1 but no longer under 1200 Euro. This is probably at the FX1 then synonymous not be otherwise. As long as she is still officially offered, you could still s.eine come cheap. How it looks white then yes None.

But it would me a FX7 because of the Size and Weight prefer. Keyword flights and luggage.

Servus

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Antwort von Jan:

Na her

some differences of HC 7 FX vs No 7 I listed here that are already overwhelming for a semi synonymous important filmmakers.

HC 7 - FX 7

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan:

Ah, here are a few FX 1 - FX 7 different:

FX 1 - FX 7

Yes you will with two cameras with things, they have very good machines, there are many synonymous aids, eg if the Graufilter is appropriate and inappropriate, it Sonywith you.

For FX synonymous, there is a check function for the brief overview of all important features to list (which currently is set).

VG
Jan

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Antwort von lukiffm:

@ udo Schröer:
since you can always ansprichst: what settings except the
sound level, the FX1 more than the FX7?

@ Comrade:
What experience do you have with cameras already
and what do you need for the cam?

gruß cj

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Yes I admit to: A little bit of himself in love with the FX 1, I know.

My arguments:
-The FX1 has all the analog connections as video, this was in the FX 7 getrichen.
- The light sensitivity is due to the larger chips higher.
- The LCD display has the same size at about 20% more pixels

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Antwort von lukiffm:

"Udo Schröer" wrote: Yes I admit to: A little bit of himself in love with the FX 1, I know.

gegönnt to you.

what interested me more than see,
are the practical experiences with the HDV cams:
makes it synonymous with the freehand henkelcams recordings?
used her strapless help?
filming everything from her stand?
staedycams uses her experience and with what?
when it switches from the AF?
how come you with quick movements / pans cope?
looks like with lowlight from (gain up to high or not)?
what can we in the post yet rausholen?
gruß cj

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Antwort von KameraD:

So, I had time before the HC90 and an analog of Samsung. The HC90 has started then it's really fun to make. But technically, I am editing rather cozy, all without the stress, only the recordings afterwards, if he really has time. I would like to shoot mostly events of all kinds, and synonymous in the nature I am looking for the unusual adventure, whether on the water, on land or in the air.

At the time I think about it synonymous me professionally to re-orient. Video journalism? No clue what you as with Middle maturity and vocational training can do so. To 2009/2010, I can still leave time.

But shooting or DV editing interested me very much. I'm happy just like creative.

With an appropriate camera, I hope in time enough to be able to gain experience and then perhaps synonymous times an internship can be.

Whether all this with an FX1 and FX7 easier? But the sooner I start, the better ... or not?

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Antwort von KameraD:

If the price falls expected in the near future? Especially in the FX7? Rather, I believe that the more expensive FX7 will be times when the FX1 is no longer officially available. Or would I need quite synonymous. To order the 2000 Euro ....

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

"Comrades" wrote: I would like to shoot mostly events of all kinds, and synonymous in the nature I am looking for the unusual adventure, whether on the water, on land or in the air.


then usually you have been a quiet style of spinning.
freehand shots are with the two cams rather fx
difficult ...
FX1 is better for vj (better weitwinkel / lowlight)
FX7 is better for natural film (larger zoom / sharper image)
gruß cj

ps. FX1 a second hand one can possibly to 2000, - get.

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

So I would take synonymous the FX1, the handling is sometimes quite fricklich. And you can see the aperture and shutter are not truly independent of each other adjust.
Hab mal ne wedding rotated with the FX1, free hand, has worked wonderfully and the result looked really great (the pictures).
I've got me for the XH A1 decided, but it is already almost ne other price class.

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Antwort von KameraD:

With the XH-A1 I could still synonymous friends, although I do not at the Canon-Fan bin. The sub-synonymous only has one year warranty, but of the equipment, it is the FX7 / 1 homemade highly superior and because I am worried that I am with the presets are not clearly come. Anyway, I could not control the recordings, in the absence of screen. Wide Angleist this ok, synonymous and has a 20-fold Tele which is either the 1st or the 7er has.

This is already holding regular rod ne money what we paid. The successor models, I have always felt that, for example, as a successor SonyFX7 device is marketed, but if you want to see what was left out because everything is rather not so. More I see it as a stripped down version of the FX1, I at least now after the two devices was compared. Perhaps the FX7 more so in-between of HC7 and FX1, and as I said before, this is it purely emotionally but too expensive. But Sony will probably be no preference ....

Under this aspect, the XH-A1 really interesting. Nonetheless, ne used FX1 / 7 for 2000 euros, I would take synonymous:)

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

"Anonymous" wrote: So I would take synonymous the FX1, the handling is sometimes quite fricklich. And you can see the aperture and shutter are not truly independent of each other adjust.
Hab mal ne wedding rotated with the FX1, free hand, has worked wonderfully and the result looked really great (the pictures).
I've got me for the XH A1 decided, but it is already almost ne other price class.


hmmm,
is the control of s.soviel less fricklich?
and
why can hide and not shutter s.der FX1
independently adjust?
gruß cj

ps. the settings s.der FX7 are not yet available fricklich
Setting the aperture and shutter of any peculiarities.

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

FX1 has a horizontal line Resolutionvon only 476 pairs, probably the lowest of all the HDV cameras.

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Antwort von Jan:

Power is good but the shutter, aperture or gain manual to use?
At the rear FX 7 White Balance, Shutter, Gain, the Aperture s.der LCD
Page - makes a good (each function has a button - just like when it was VX. The Consumer Camera HC 7 must be partially go into the menu, or, depending on the desired function on the dial wheel set, too cumbersome for me.

The freehand with the turning is more experience & a skill thing, one or the other simply can not keep quiet for several seconds, however some cameraman keeps the FX 7 (it keeps well - is synonymous significantly lighter than the FX 1) synonymous over a few minutes at shoulder Digibetanivaeu. When it goes some way - is a tripod but necessary.

For me it is a long time ago where I made the FX 1 had before me, I'm not sure whether synonymous as synonymous as it is in the FX 7 - Apertures and gain limit.

In the FX 7 provides some things that only the expensive sister model had (Z 1) - partially times are not synonymous.

This concerns Peaking in 3 colors (FX 7 white, red, yellow) - FX 1 has only white, film then times where there are a lot of white - then the sharpness adjustment assistance "Peaking" is still impractical.

If I remember right did not look at the Z 1 - Zebra and Peaking together (FX 7), an important tool for the camera men prefer manual focus but synonymous in the same moment the exposure to keep an eye on.

A Tonpegelanzeige (FX 7) in the Auto mode to find synonymous not wrong.
Even the lesser power of the FX 7 (CMOS) as some users might be interested.

Good on the VGA and Super Slow the 1-megapixel photos, you can forgo.

There are a few nice features only s.der FX 7 installed.

Sure it would be nice if the FX 7, a wide Angleverbaut better would be 5 mm are already a number, the sound levels, one has to fight through the menu, S-Video would be synonymous nice, well it can improve the FX 1 .

For me, both models to exist.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

hmm,
why do we need the analog video-in ports (s-video)?
(I need as little as the feature photo)
and how you filming with the FX7 / 1 or s.auf the shoulder?
with a support you can ensure absolute film, because you then
the finder can use this without the support is certainly the FX7
easiest cam and can be used for a short time on low-angled
kept.
has someone experience with the Raynox HD-7062PRO WW
s.der FX7 can collect?
gruß cj

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

"without such support is certainly the FX7
easiest cam and can be used for a short time on low-angled
kept "

No. Muckkis?
Then ne but small, so 300 grams, which you can all day hold!

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Antwort von AÖ-Ravenation:

"No Muckkis?
Then ne but small, so 300 grams, which you can all day hold! "

naja so dingens (500g), I have synonymous,
but then maybe be a webcam in AVCHD resolution
s.der sunglasses.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Exactly, and then you can use this issue as you from the AVCHD get a different file.

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Antwort von Jan:

I have now 2 different dissolution tests of Video Enabled Digital Discount - I am thinking of her true of the laboratory values.

First test FX 7:

Vertical - 586 LP
Horizontal - 720 LP

second test FX 7:

Vertical - 527 LP
Horizontal - 662 LP

XH A 1:

Vertical - 600 LP
Horizontal - 666 LP

HC 7:

Vertical - 543 LP
Horizontal - 647 LP

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan69:

The Real Resolutiondürfte much lower. Cam H with a 1440 can not be 720 LP record. The Resolutionschtze I'm 20% lower.

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Antwort von KameraD:

Hab noch mal thought and here is another question arisen:

How promising is because HDV anyway?

This system is just the beginning of the first made and Full-HD displays, there are so synonymous already on the market. What else is coming? Ok, so nobody can say exactly, but with security but it is certainly synonymous times full-HD (or better) camcorder type, denk ich mal ...

When I look now but FX1 / 7 purchase, it may well be that I have in four or five years from the stupid tube watch, right? Could well be that some other system will prevail, or even higher-resolution monitor will be developed, and again synonymous matching camcorder.

What I do not need a similar technological progress as it is for computer components.

For this reason, then I probably would rather something smaller, cheaper access to, and then take the HC7, no preference whether it's a visible difference in the recording quality, or not.

Can you understand this, that I am due to this uncertainty, but no big cam would buy? What do you this? Have other synonymous this "concern" and take a temporary but rather to something smaller?

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Antwort von ruessel:

Synonymous, I think the good times of the camcorder even after 5 years to date was long gone. The FX1 was 2 years old still brand new, but almost every new HDV / AVCHD camcorders today announced a higher resolution image sensors because of better (but if the picture is always synonymous better?).
The screens will be no different, what is "state of the art" is in 6 months old hat. It was formerly synonymous although so but the product waves were much longer ..... Sony now brings as 6 months, almost all new camera models. A SonyUX1 was even after a few weeks to completely discontinued.

I think it slowly is synonymous HDV in the high age and it will come, in my estimation not many new band cameras, a trend towards memory chips is simply no longer be ignored and that is probably for the next 2 years with AVCHD max. 15 Mbit ..... and although FullHD with 1920x1080 pixels, synonymous when the assembled image sensors do not actually hergeben.

Nevertheless, given the amateur today 1000Euro soon for a picture under the 5 years ago was unthinkable.

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes at the moment herscht full uncertainty in the market.

The sales figures of my chain at 5.7 and HC HV 20 are not intoxicating grad who was a few weeks ago still significantly better.
HDV schwächelt somehow at the moment.

For FX 1.7 and XH 1 gives little interested, synonymous in the well-known stores are the target model very slowly,
Interested already there but very few buyers.

I see right now for us black Semi / prosumer (XM / XL / DV (JVC) - VX / PD filmmakers) to me is an AVCHD camera (which is now on the market) just like all consumer - HDV breaks into the clear class.

I can not rightly AVCHD camera with the same features as SonyFX 1.7, Canon XH A 1 - Pana HVX 200 imagine - somewhere in 2000-5000 is ¬.

If you look at it in Hamburg (Pana) & Cologne (Sony) are both umhört
Companies probably prosumer is an interesting development in the popular price class fits (2000-4000 ¬) - at Pana is repeatedly referred to the SD card - you could be in say a Pana HVX 200 for "poor" - but what I will not disturb I can with today's AVCHD cameras just do not start - sorry.

But it should definitely what happened in the semi sector.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan69:

Yes exactly, the FX7 cheaper offer a greeting s.Sony

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Antwort von Jan69:

and who cares if the HC5 the HV20 now on the market for almost the same price? Nobody!

This is the same game with the FX1 / 7 compared to the Canon XH-A1. Because we do not know what FX you take, you pay just a little bit longer and has a good conscience.

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Antwort von Jan:

No. synonymous Canon does not sell mass s.XH A & G 1.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan69:

.... and has a good, especially with a quiet conscience of the XH-A1

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Antwort von Jan69:

... but only if the processing keeps what it promises.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Jan69:

Only Sony courage or bravery to vulnerability;) The FX7 is a great part but not the price, not so long as the FX-1 already exists and because it now garnicht the XH-1A are

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Antwort von Jan:

The FX 7 must be probably be cheaper, I've compatriots times, even my chain (which Saublöden & Miser) sell twice as many XH A 1

SonyFX 7 price - 500 ¬ = times, I would recommend for Sonyin Cologne.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von KameraD:

If possible, I would without with the unblinking eye, the FX7 buy.

I do not know what Sony is thinking this, but what to believe what the customer thought makes when the FX1 and the FX7 is not priced very different. One sees a lot of people here based on what this thread is for people to worry

-a garnicht want more than 1000 euros to spend, because everything seems so half-baked, so caution rather than forbearance

and just the competition of Canon, and even from your own home

The Canon in this respect is not really fallen on his head and Sonydas makes life really hard. When the time finally responded Sonyda

The trust is just not ....

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Sony Does no idea why synonymous, since the FX1 is out of the program, which is a discontinued model and the FX7 is the successor.

Many can no longer synonymous as Euro 1000 - to spend. But the desire is stop there! 1000 euro is in place and now the big question
ne who sells 1100th for FX7 - And always the question with AVCHD! Currently there are no semi cam with AVCHD, maybe the remains synonymous and so is the consumer AVCHD format and the HDV Semiprof. Format

Look for Prof Sonyim area.
3 X HDV
http://www.sonybiz.net/biz/view/ShowProductCategory.action?site=biz_de_DE&category=HDVCamcorders

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Udo Schröer" wrote: ... Currently there are no semi cam with AVCHD, maybe the remains synonymous and so is the consumer AVCHD format ...
Panasonic (-Broadcast) wants to be synonymous in the AVCHD professional market. So far, however, is just such a camcorder, the AG-HSC1 as an offshoot consumer device on the market.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von kitanai:

"Jan" wrote: The FX 7 must be probably be cheaper, I've compatriots times, even my chain (which Saublöden & Miser) sell twice as many XH A 1

SonyFX 7 price - 500? = I would recommend for times Sonyin Cologne.

VG
Jan


... the internet for the FX7 prices are below Now 2700, --
this is for the camera has a good price.
gruß cj

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Antwort von kitanai:

competition in the current models of Canon XHa1 and the competition from their own home (FX1) is however not .... or may not remain so if Sonyda wants to earn something.

The 500 euro each locker can make a more cost XHA1. And if not there still remains the question of FX, only what? The old or the new?

You see the problem is not that there lies behind? Or do you not see?

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Antwort von kitanai:

Na waiting times until the XHA1 is cheaper, if at all. Then Sonydie FX7 synonymous again einstampfen;)

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Antwort von Jan:

I have now so synonymous with Sonygeredet again, supposedly to be because a device Semipro AVCHD come - but I can not believe it right.

When I find the Pana AG-HSC1 synonymous only a consumer model, synonymous when it has nice features built in, which has nothing to do with a Canon XH SonyFX or to be done.

Dealers as I get now Sonydie of Vegas 7 software to the FX 7 to sell, they realize it themselves so as not to go on.

Believe me the tape occurs at the moment in HD in full circle, the big companies know that, just have no matching response.

Since we are now so with Magix 2008 / Ulead 11 Studio Pros / Pinn Studio 11 Pros halfway AVCHD editing and can burn to DVD (Ulead not BlueRay) calms the question at the moment SW synonymous, Vegas 7 kanns so good right anyway.

I like Mini DV, but spätesens 2008 is probably a HD model without tape what really appear in the semi class plays. The time for MiniDV is probably really expired .....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

The bearings on the FX7 Mauss is not subject s.der cassette. Also I have clearly decided on the FX1 because I think this is better.

With Ebay, the FX1 is still very much in demand. Just when it looks Canaon from.

The FX7 is holding a seminar device is not as attractive as the FX1 and A1. The software makes it so better not synonymous.

And whether it is a semi with AVCHD me there is really no preference. Such a camera has at least 3000th euro - tasted. Spare parts will be over the next 10 years remain in place. And if the drive in 5 years is broken, I buy a new stop for Euro 1000 - or so.

What happened when Sonyin two years off and everything is shared, we then asked "Is AVCHD yet?"

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Antwort von overdose:

because s.dem compression techniques currently being developed,
should be a semicam with AVCHD (i-frame only) recording at least
open for updates, because if today's AVCHD
is no longer current is at the consumer verschmerzbar
at 3000, plus cam no longer works.
gruß cj

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Antwort von overdose:

"Anonymous" wrote:
... the internet for the FX7 prices are below Now 2700, --
this is for the camera has a good price.
gruß cj


Now computational times myself after what one for 500 euros for the XHA1 s.Zusatzaustattung gets what the FX7 does not have. Purchase thee times for the FX7 a wide-angle converter .... and then next and so forth ...

If Canon would be smart, they would XHA1 which offer even cheaper. And what does Sony then?

If Sony were smart, they would be doing a favor with the FX7, to gain market share by Preisenkungen out. I am sure that there is an increase in sales of the FX7 will come.

Otherwise, you prefer something on it and then just the XHA1 or who are uncertain, the little HV20.

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Antwort von overdose:

or the other way around ...
one can ask why the s.so is cheap.
a superb camera at a DVX100 for sale
I find interesting. perhaps because there are some synonymous
very cheap components inside the price of s.rechtfertigen.
the schärfepunpen with the zoom when I find something
surprise of the h1, I have something yet to be heard.
gruß cj

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Antwort von overdose:

"Jan" wrote:
Dealers as I get now Sonydie of Vegas 7 software to the FX 7 to sell, they realize it themselves so as not to go on.

Believe me the tape occurs at the moment in HD in full circle, the big companies know that, just have no matching response.

VG
Jan


Hey Jan,

was earlier in Blödmarkt times and wanted to watch because of the FX7, but they have only one and that was still sealed ...

From nem Sony Promoteur was there I also made aware of this action with the software Vegas7 what you get for free if you are not buying HDV cam. However, the prices of today, beyond Good and Evil ...

I know the software garnicht and is supposed to be used by the SWR and normally cost 800 euros. Whether this is true? Should something like the Adobe video editing package, AfterFX, PPro, Audition ...

But since the action still to run 30.9, I am now really interested s.der FX7. Although I would prefer it to the camcorder without this software to be able to buy, but prefer something cheaper ....

What is central Vegas7 exactly?

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Antwort von dernightdj:

yes I was now synonymous in MM and the FX7 have since normally 3199 euros, the HC7 for 1199th

Now then: FX7 for Euro 3499 and the HC7 for Euro 1399.

Do I still say what ......

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

FX7: ¬ 2764.00, XH-A1: 3377.00 ¬, but then there is no software. Just found at my favorite dealer, R ** c ** n. Since, the market Blöd really neat what to pack.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von Axel:

"cj" wrote: or the other way around ...
one can ask why the s.so is cheap.
a superb camera at a DVX100 for sale
I find interesting. perhaps because there are some synonymous
very cheap components inside the price of s.rechtfertigen.
the schärfepunpen with the zoom when I find something
surprise of the h1, I have something yet to be heard.
gruß cj


Poor Lens in Comparison with the competitors, especially in comparison to the DVX, the casing is not very stable. One has to hold a Canon Cam s.Reißbrett out with all the features, for example, in this forum from time to time been reported missing. Then one has to built cheap. Had we chosen a 6000 ¬ draus Cam to make it would be similar to the HVX for only a few have been affordable. Now the owners must be arranged with the restrictions: Focal halve no Offroad, manual work (this "restriction" will soon learn the main plus point).

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Antwort von Jan:

Well the prices are different in the class and certainly synonymous in MM or Saturn Market negotiable. The XH A 1 is not uncommon then ¬ 400 cheaper than what the price tag is sold.
FX 7 is then often at around 3000 ¬ + - depending on the business. 2700 / 2800 ¬ but is very rarely done, which I will now too.

I like a very good price for a FX 7, although it is a single piece showcases, just for testing purposes for interested customers s.die panel connected synonymous a few seconds, but with 5 years! Warranty + Original / full Vegas 7 software for the already mentioned Internet Price

I have several of the shops include the Vegas 7 is often dazugepackt, Sony Are full versions with them.

Sony Vegas 7 is the best program in addition to APP 2 and Final Cut (Mac), which is a very good workflow is HDV, Adobe Premiere Pro has even the relatively smooth handling of AVCHD ahead. Is the value of about 600 ¬, ie an almost professional SW - so under the professional programs of AVID.

Some users are working with Vegas 7 and can certainly say more about it.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von urban-orange:

No, because when the MM can not be done with the Canon XHA1 and I have now on the web for Euro 3164 saw the gap in the FX7 is the interest of small and growing:) He just meant when I use a camcorder in the a certain radius around the store to find cheaper, then you would reimburse me the difference ...

Well Vegas7 and the need I do not really synonymous, synonymous when it is tempting. But that means only re-training period, and with vsUnzufriedenheit Premiere Elements synonymous determined to get well clear.

However now I am unsure of the statements cj something about the XHA1. With the Sony I Would synonymous a bunch of compromises ...

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Antwort von urban-orange:

for that price, I would s.kaufen
and as much as possible (on panasonictapes) film
so that during the warranty is well run.
gruß cj

ps. I still have the above problems of a1 surprised
since it is optimum as in the HDV range is fully satisfied and synonymous with the FX7

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Antwort von urban-orange:

As you have both?

So there is at Canon are still having trouble with the tape drive, dropouts?

Ok, that only one year warranty period, which I have overlooked ...:(

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Antwort von urban-orange:

"Like, you have both?"

no, my buying decision much in december
for the FX7 and on basis of practical tests proboscis
http://www.fxsupport.de/12.html
... which I liked better than many laboratory tests.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes proboscis is something special, when he fxsupport.de
written text must now synonymous times are presented here:

- With virtually every camera, no preference as very good or bad it is, you can generate excellent film for people in film competitions or winning films at festivals exhibit. The quality of a lens or camera has almost nothing with the quality of the images to do that are so produced.
Everyone has probably already all the necessary equipment - if only he would learn the most of it to make. A better device will not make better films, because a device can not to make a better photographer.

The photographer, not the cameras, making good pictures. --

Wolfgang may forgive me - his page:



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