Infoseite // what a difference in a matte?



Frage von Zarahannover:


Hi s.alle,
I'm just on the search for a gift for my birthday.
I have the Canon XL1S just to get christmas.
I hear and read about all of what matte boxes,
but where exactly is the difference in how far and also change the image, and should be as honest a little bit more money from, or is no preference.
and like I am on the Page "Geardear.com"'ve pushed as many names read like one 3sixty tray4x4 or one lensmount80 and many more, but what exactly is this ..
I would be happy about an answer
achja perhaps you can yes I received a synonymous

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Antwort von robbie:

I do not think you "already" a Mattebox need. Learn your camera first to know, and to wish you birthday Microphone. eg a sennheiser Me66.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Zarahannover" wrote: ... read about what all of matte boxes, but where exactly is the difference and how far they also change the picture ... what exactly is this ..
A matte combines two functions: a s.die optimally adapted to each lens focal length aperture and the scattering of a filter holder for this mount sliding filter. The differences in prices of these parts are explained, as with any technological device from the materials, processing, construction, capabilities and the name of the manufacturer. One of the moment probably the most recommendable Matte boxes is this here:
http://www.redrockmicro.com/microMattebox.html
So much for theory. In practice do you much better if you Mattebox deferral and instead follow robbie Council: A good microphone, a tripod or a head light are just more important.

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

many thanks for the quick reply
and thanks for the tips with the Microphone, the mikrifon synonymous suitable for fishing?
because we already have a microphone but that is more likely to interview and one not suited to the ton fishing.

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Antwort von robbie:

jau, me66 is suitable for fishing. still a nice shock mount to free, and fishing, and finished the ton. roughly speaking.

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

I own three pieces ME66/K6 and they would never hergeben! The ME66 is simply a terribly good Microphone and fully worth its price!

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Zarahannover" wrote: ... tips with the Microphone ...
Without now a big price comparison looks to have made this still a good offer:
http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_mke_666.htm
If your camera has a phantom power, enough even this still cheaper kit:
http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_mke_666_p.htm

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

Search and you buy the thing on eBay!

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Antwort von Johannes:

"Debonnaire" wrote: Search and you buy the thing on eBay!

Well ... So is a very general tip, but if you google there because I think more and better. I have mine almost new with K6 for 120 euros get outside of Ebay. I'm very glad that I did one.

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

because what is the difference between the MKE 666 MKE 666 and the p
because it is a price untersied of nearly 100 ¬?

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

you need eig synonymous basket or a wind, a fully deadcat come from?

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Antwort von Axel:

"Zarahannover" wrote: because what is the difference between the MKE 666 MKE 666 and the p
because it is a price untersied of nearly 100 ¬?


The Micro itself is the same. The "p" is the only screw mounting XLR connector with switch included (enough if your Camera 48V phantom power supplies), the more expensive battery module is a capsule there.

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

my camera (XL 1s) has no XLR - Connections then I should prefer a prior MA - 100 schulter endorse buy?

did have a good, think good price of 100 ¬ will.

eig what do you think of the U-Flycam. makes them quiet, I can picture it synonymous with my XL 1s or use my camera is too heavy and what is a reasonable price?

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Antwort von robbie:

times forget EVERYTHING possible accessories such as Steadycam, matte, crane, wind, etc. basket and you concentrated on the really necessary things, and that you have mastered this.

xlr is a must.

a tripod synonymous. did you already have one? if so, which one?

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

Manfrotto 503 HDV

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Antwort von maniero:

There is still scope to the top before you have a matte box, etc. reflection ...

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Antwort von Zarahannover:

what example?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

I do not synonymous, why so many novice but a Steadicam need a crane, any mat boxes and stuff so. Camera and Tripod, and also a good Microphone. That's enough!

Steadicam is totally free spirit, you do not know when to use the film language is: almost never.

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Antwort von Johannes:

"PowerMac" wrote: I do not synonymous, why so many novice but a Steadicam need a crane, any mat boxes and stuff so. Camera and Tripod, and also a good Microphone. That's enough!

Steadicam is totally free spirit, you do not know when to use the film language is: almost never.


Hold not the people from buying from, that's not good for the economy!
At least at a Competition or here in the forum they recognize it,
that it is not on technology but on the matters which they operated.

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Antwort von domain:

Yesterday evening universe provide a film about the spring in Europe on TV with all its manifestations of flora and fauna.
There was virtually not a single scene without a camera and connection is synonymous with extreme in Time Lapse. Sliced most of a trip directly into the other, rarely with Bridging the Alpha visors. That means in this case, practically, that the camera does not just ride, but even in the exact intervals between single shots gradually had to be moved.
Furthermore, extreme macro photography (formic acid squirting ants in slow motion) and synonymous slow motion shots of the wind and tolerate pollen grains synonymous pictures from inside a Fuchsbaus with a birth defect and its boys in their growing up.
With such images, we can not even remotely keep pace, the effort must be simply gigantic, hopeless.
Steadycam etc is probably only the first attempt helpless to us this technology a little closer together.
With scenic and reportage-like images even imagine, but certainly no longer present in nature documentaries, which produced no real special effects probably no longer live.

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Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote: Furthermore, extreme macro photography (formic acid squirting ants in slow motion) and synonymous slow motion shots of the wind and tolerate pollen grains synonymous pictures from inside a Fuchsbaus with a birth defect and its boys in their growing up. [...] With such images, we can not even remotely keep up with a chance.

Hell. Sorry, I've been in it a tea, but these damned Effect aesthetics is really the death of figurative language. Back to The Roots. Guten Rutsch!

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Axel" wrote: Hell. Sorry, I've been in it a tea, but these damned Effect aesthetics is really the death of figurative language. Back to The Roots.
I see quite different! These documentaries are nothing more than GEIL aus! A pleasure to look!

Unfortunately, and here I domain right, they at us, "Normalfilmern" but synonymous frustration because we were really little more chance to keep ne! But viewers of synonymous and vision from the perspective of a filmmaker colleagues, are the productions spitze!

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Antwort von Axel:

That was Gelaber in Suffern, not seriously. That we can not, is because we do not keep a daily high-speed camera with operator hire for a few seconds "geile" sprayed the ants, in which many of the viewers the effort can not be appreciated. Also exposes me so frustrated again as self-Tröster. We can not synonymous with real Massenkarambolage, exploding trucks on Highway stage, but is it the dream of your life? I am not.

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Axel" wrote: We can not synonymous with real Massenkarambolage, exploding trucks on Highway stage, but is it the dream of your life? I am not.
Yep, it would Megageil!

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Antwort von Pillermännchen:

"Axel" wrote: "domain" wrote: Furthermore, extreme macro photography (formic acid squirting ants in slow motion) and synonymous slow motion shots of the wind and tolerate pollen grains synonymous pictures from inside a Fuchsbaus with a birth defect and its boys in their growing up. [...] With such images, we can not even remotely keep up with a chance.

Hell. Sorry, I've been in it a tea, but these damned Effect aesthetics is really the death of figurative language. Back to The Roots. Guten Rutsch!


This I see as synonymous.
Whenever I take an information get the feeling that only a self-Cast stands behind the camera, I turn around.
If I were a bear in the wild would like, I have no camera rides in schwindeleregendem pace to have the animal around.
This is Talmi. Pseudo-documentaries. On the BBC you will see more and more frequently so Schietere.
However, it is surely gone.

In the eighties, at the beginning of the private TV stations, it was synonymous fashion, news trailer with such short, choppy sequences vollzupfropfen that the human eye could not follow. This frenetic Getrommel in the background.
And so has the media since then synonymous developed.

For me is like shooting pictures.
Only with moving images.
That remains.

For the rest I agree with the majority to:
Camera, Tripod, Micro.
And try without end.

Happy New Year
Jens

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Antwort von robbie:

"Axel" wrote:
Hell. Sorry, I've been in it a tea, but these damned Effect aesthetics is really the death of figurative language. Back to The Roots. Guten Rutsch!


Exactly.
Ich hab mal synonymous briefly in the documentary reingeschaut ... only the recording, like a mushroom growing from the earth and a 180 ° camera movement to the fungus ... * kopfschüttel *... although it is obviously extremely horny ago ... and the slow motion, like a pine cones on the pilz falls ... what about the times ... all staged!

I think I've still in the tee ...

good new!

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"robbie" wrote: Exactly.
Ich hab mal synonymous briefly in the documentary reingeschaut ... only the recording, like a mushroom growing from the earth and a 180 ° camera movement to the fungus ... * kopfschüttel *... although it is obviously extremely horny ago ... and the slow motion, like a pine cones on the pilz falls ... what about the times ... all staged!

Yes, what now?! "* * kopfschüttel" as uncomprehendingly rejection, or "even though it obviously extremely horny ago" when admiring respect?! Decide times!

If the medium of film, and this is now synonymous times the documentary (!), Still with the fathers of the Clothing Box (Camera, Tripod, not even a micro) has stopped, then backwards Ewiggestrigen her happy, her Pseudopuristen their photography -with-motion-fanatics? If a camera shooting a fungus that is reprehensible, although neither the documentary nor the truth of scientific correctness of representation have been affected, but all the visual appeal could be massively increased, then you can really be a beginning and an Endfoto and make the s.die wall and leave it at that! Since you do not need to shoot more!

Shooting is now MOVE! And the Camera synonymous may not be excluded! Finally, the camera is nothing more than the replacement of the self-am-not-set-is-the-spectator-look-and-heard-from-Film-Makers-immovable-guided, ie YOU! And this camera will remain stiff as a poker walled in? Would you perhaps on a chair einzementierten growing fungus motionless for three days watching, instead of in between times drum rum to go top of him, the author, of the bottom of round and again to consider? I the latter! - So: Why should the camera because that is not synonymous, and in the course of more precise and appealing because zeitgeraffter form?

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Antwort von robbie:

So now I'm fitter than in the morning;)

Of course, the camera that, and as I already wrote, it looks extremely good. Only I think you should especially in a nature film on the excessive use of effects such abandon. Time between ne ride is ok. Continuous journey is not only the "dignity" of such a product.
Since I can start a blockbuster view.
But it is just a trend, and we have to? We all seem to subordinate trends. The Universe series, which is largely shared with the BBC is produced, has always been very authentic with a few effects. The world is changing halt.

Here is an example. Georg Riha read the Camera again to fly.
Up to the first adjustment comes in the first minute is no sequence. Good. Perhaps a bird, the flight to make and so forth, since it is debatable. However, impressions are now synonymous times would certainly have been fine.



Another Riha. Should the potential tourists to Vienna to taste. Overstimulation. Ok, a trend synonymous in these cities videos.



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Antwort von Pillermännchen:

"Debonnaire" wrote: "robbie" wrote: Exactly.
Ich hab mal synonymous briefly in the documentary reingeschaut ... only the recording, like a mushroom growing from the earth and a 180 ° camera movement to the fungus ... * kopfschüttel *... although it is obviously extremely horny ago ... and the slow motion, like a pine cones on the pilz falls ... what about the times ... all staged!

Yes, what now?! "* * kopfschüttel" as uncomprehendingly rejection, or "even though it obviously extremely horny ago" when admiring respect?! Decide times!

If the medium of film, and this is now synonymous times the documentary (!), Still with the fathers of the Clothing Box (Camera, Tripod, not even a micro) has stopped, then backwards Ewiggestrigen her happy, her Pseudopuristen their photography -with-motion-fanatics? If a camera shooting a fungus that is reprehensible, although neither the documentary nor the truth of scientific correctness of representation have been affected, but all the visual appeal could be massively increased, then you can really be a beginning and an Endfoto and make the s.die wall and leave it at that! Since you do not need to shoot more!

Shooting is now MOVE! And the Camera synonymous may not be excluded! Finally, the camera is nothing more than the replacement of the self-am-not-set-is-the-spectator-look-and-heard-from-Film-Makers-immovable-guided, ie YOU! And this camera will remain stiff as a poker walled in? Would you perhaps on a chair einzementierten growing fungus motionless for three days watching, instead of in between times drum rum to go top of him, the author, of the bottom of round and again to consider? I the latter! - So: Why should the camera because that is not synonymous, and in the course of more precise and appealing because zeitgeraffter form?


Maybe for a slapstick film with thunderous Bassboostern unterm Cinema armchair.
But I thought we speak of Docus?

But actually it was probably originally about what features are included in a quality matte represent.

I would be interested synonymous, synonymous if I do not yet have missed.

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

Because remember: if "documentary", then most desolate, grad of the front, unimaginative, just a "documentary!" shot! Keep that an exciting documentary, filmed geil, hot staged and yet informative rüberkäme! No, the fungus-growing wants of a frozen Camera, s.liebsten in real time, be maintained. Clearly seems to be an essential quality characteristic of the "good Dokfilm" the sleeping spectators with cobwebs between the teeth of the open mouth snoring to be ... More so, it Ewiggestrigen! Drehet next s.den hand cranks the great silent film cameras cabinet!

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Antwort von Ficeduld:

@ Debonnaire. LOL

Mattebox is everything here that, if a priority, first and foremost an image function, right?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Debonnaire" wrote: (...) Keep it up, it Ewiggestrigen! Drehet next s.den hand cranks the great silent film cameras cabinet!

Blabla ... Have you taken any stimulants?

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Antwort von DWUA:

Good, the matte-theme "is so long since died.
"Foam brake" to go?
Where he is right, he is right, the Debonnaire ...

;))

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