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Frage von kili:


Hi,
since I must obtain a tripod, the simple and moving my camera in a defined height position (no mega pans and so), I once wanted to ask if there are any real problems with cheap tripods are ... about 20 euro's a tripod with 170 cm height ... is assumed that the thing after a very short time zusammenklappt me and my camera schrottet, or are the dinger is cheap, but meet at least consider their task?

I would s.meisten practical experiences with cheap tripods are interested.

and yes, I have a lot of money spent for my camera, but no, that alone is no reason for me, a lot of money for a tripod or greater. machts quality, not price:)

grüße:
kilian

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Antwort von Chezus:

You need to debug

Example: the image is intended to provide a signature of a building hold.
You want to zoom and ran the Tripod note

cheap Tripods keep the cutting can not
Or it can not accurately determine
or or or

Even in very simple job can be frustrating to a favorable Tripod
Take one for about 100 euro (Velbon DV 7000) which can be for some Money

20 euro? Forget the rather

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Antwort von kili:

What would it with the Velbon CX-686 from?
that is less than 70 ¬ and probably synonymous with fluid loss ... sone is fluid loss so great as it sounds?
grüße:
kilian

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Antwort von Chezus:

as I said, s.besten go into a store and try it out!

When it is, I have here used a 2x Velbon DV 7000 (have 2 of them) and it would sell. The second tradition is no more.

If you're interested, tell bescheid

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Antwort von kili:

was this morning when saturn Other .. tja ... The tripods were already cheap, but not so that they immediately einklappen. but then I would rather ask again.
I'm little bit careful because very often a high price with a guaranteed high quality is the same (which in my experience, not necessarily be the case).

otherwise: "modest" sag.
stativ persuasive email address s.kilian-dreissig.de

edit: if the well would be suitable for me? ;)
http://www.schnittpunkt-sued.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=807

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

The Velbon DV7000 is for money in order. From a good tripod but still far away.

Without exception, I can only recommend Vinten and Sachtler.

The Sachtler of you would be linked again to climb to my previous systems. At 115kg load capacity I could, including Camera and Steadicam on the fluid head and put me herumschwenken can:-D

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Antwort von Pillermännchen:

For my HV30, I use it here
http://tinyurl.com/bmtuez
and it is good for static shots.
More you need really not.
The thing is folded twice as large as a ruler and is with me anywhere.
You can not touch it only when shooting.

If you want to swing but should you at least a 7000 or a Velbon 936 Bilora growth.

The Vinten no hobby, I would seriously recommend filmmakers.
And those who do have the guaranteed never even towed.

Jens

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Antwort von darg:

As long as you only play static images make the price not really matter because pans are defined over the head but that happens then yes when you do not apply.
If you do want to make dynamic panning everything except fluid head worth nothing. The cheap Kunstostoffklemmverschlüsse Jerkiness produce, even if they are fully up and wiggle it, if fully open. The slow start and shows the largest Ruckler.
In the price a tripod always go the cost of the closures of the legs synonymous with one. The cheaper the price the less well they wear and quite fast. View my Tripods are sometimes in the water or desert sand, do not synonymous with life at all.
In relation to the attitude position plastic heads is always critical, because at the turn off of the clamping screw head ever so slightly and the warpage bildausschnitt your travels. I am especially in light telephoto pictures in the area struck.
Eighth synonymous to how easily is Tripod. At 170cm, every breeze to shake the Tripod bring the heavier the better then gillt here.
Have with a $ 20 tripod begun to recognize the error and then to have one for $ 350 grab and lo and behold, who buys cheap, buys twice.

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Antwort von darg:

Oops, pressed it twice .....

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"shown" wrote:
Eighth synonymous to how easily is Tripod. At 170cm, every breeze to shake the Tripod bring the heavier the better then gillt here.


Not only wind, but synonymous vibrations when in its gymnasium (sprung floor) or log on ground.
That's with his heavier tripod partially borderline, but it has little light with the camera almost Consumer garkeine cushioning.
Especially when you reinzoomt far isses the steadiness, the man with his tripod actually wants to achieve, rather disturbed.

Also in the isses Full practically difficult to use. The full plastic clamps and screws are simply not properly tighten.
The large has been everywhere since metal screws / clamps / nuts - and ventral spikes and individually adjustable legs.
The small s.and to come with, if the 3.5 kilos of 'big' (synonymous nothing special - PSV Unomat 909 - I, together with the small pack in the double shot auf'm flea market) is simply too much.
As a first-and / or Einzigstativ sowas würd ich's not in mind.

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Antwort von WideScreen:

20 euros for a Tripod? Wo gibts denn sowas? Uhu and is supplied with scissors to Selbstausschneiden? With all the love, but rather take the money and throw the same out of the window.

Synonymous consider that a cheap tripod is not only prohibits pans, but only the synonymous touching the camera. So Aperture modify or zooming, there is no longer synonymous, because the Tripod warpage.
You purchase at least a Manfrotto or something, suck synonymous although not much, but better than garbage.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"WideScreen" wrote: .....
You purchase at least a Manfrotto or something, suck synonymous although not much, but better than garbage.


Aha - interesting ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: Purchase of the Novoflex QuadroPod ;-)
That should probably be stable enough - because who wants to have only 3 legs - all that is already outdated and of yesterday ;-) Today we have 4 to ;-) That said WideScreen synonymous sure ;-)

Otherwise, he of course completely right Tripod is 20 euros for a ton of really!

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Antwort von robbie:

for purely static shots, I can only still very good a ladder and a sandbag recommend.

Incidentally, this was no joke.

should, moreover, around 20 ¬ to have his.

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Antwort von Pillermännchen:

"robbie" wrote: for purely static shots, I can only still very good a ladder and a sandbag recommend.

Incidentally, this was no joke.


Why joke?
The end justifies the means.

But experience has covered equipment Horter rare behind by their own works. Rather through their stuff before.

Top rate of these birds to me s.Set:
"I've got at home a much better camera than you. Is too heavy to me but to go!"

If we had more of those who got our economy synonymous better. ;)

Jens

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Antwort von WideScreen:

"B. DeKid" wrote: The thought certainly synonymous WideScreen ;-)

No, he did not ....

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Antwort von Chezus:

"... Although synonymous not suck ..." for what?
To a small thing to Cam schnalzen?
Sure to suck something!

You suck synonymous for good and pans for a good state of the Camera.

A 100 Euro Camera taugt synonymous to moving images to make it only to the demands.

He has small claims, so he is synonymous with a good tripod and very far if he has 20 euros target, it is unlikely for a tripod, the double or triple its output which has cost his Cam

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Antwort von Rolf Hankel:

"kili" wrote: Hi,
since I must obtain a tripod, the simple and moving my camera in a defined height position (no mega pans and so), I once wanted to ask if there are any real problems with cheap tripods are ... about 20 euro's a tripod with 170 cm height ... is assumed that the thing after a very short time zusammenklappt me and my camera schrottet, or are the dinger is cheap, but meet at least consider their task?

I would s.meisten practical experiences with cheap tripods are interested.

and yes, I have a lot of money spent for my camera, but no, that alone is no reason for me, a lot of money for a tripod or greater. machts quality, not price:)

grüße:
kilian


Hello

Video Bilora Pro 936 (I think that's the name of it)
is really excellent.

Gruss Rolf ...

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Antwort von maniero:

"kili" wrote: ...

and yes, I have a lot of money spent for my camera, but no, that alone is no reason for me, a lot of money for a tripod or greater. machts quality, not price:)

grüße:
kilian


At the beginning, probably the most filmmakers thought, why not save when you could / should be. After all, we introduced a fairly reasonable Camera and but that's enough to make decent videos. This is unfortunately not so. For this reason, then (almost) all their oh-so-favorable early bargains soon thrown into the garbage can ...
The tips here are still very reasonable. Purchase you prefer something of the tripods mentioned above (which, by the way both as regards the price, as synonymous terms of usability concerns already allerunterste category, you should buy Velbon and Co ... I mean of course ;-)).

Can it synonymous with a Tripod 20EUR try and make your own experiences. Maybe you're really one of the few to whom this will suffice.
And, unfortunately, is what videography and shooting is concerned, so that the price in direct relation to the quality ...

PS: And the latest, but then if a small gust of wind along with the Camera Tripod umkippt, or a terminal no longer holds and everything zusammenklappt, you'll wonder why you do not but a few euros more you invest.

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Antwort von Pillermännchen:

Only when the last tree, the last river polluted and the last fish is caught, you will find that you can not eat money and a big tripod is not happy.

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Antwort von maniero:

yes that was correct philosophically ...
However, one would of a larger tripod safely a day longer satisfied, as of a small plastic tripod Chen ;-) or because I was now confused?

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Antwort von darg:

"Maniero" wrote: yes that was correct philosophically ...
However, one would of a larger tripod safely a day longer satisfied, as of a small plastic tripod Chen ;-) or because I was now confused?


And with a fluid head on it, there is even what to drink. Even if it were not really what liquid is inside ....

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Antwort von deti:

At this point I would like once more to my total Selbstbausteadycam serious note: http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=325921#325921

Deti

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"Piller males" wrote: Only when the last tree, the last river polluted and the last fish is caught, you will find that you can not eat money and a big tripod is not happy.

EXACTLY!

And that's why we buy all the Tripods in Asia for one hours wage of 50 cents made - NATURALLY hands of children.

Nee is clear ;-)

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Antwort von kili:

hää?
now is to have lots of upset, I think.
Fair wages are without question important. But where because all the produce "high quality" stativ manufacturers? all with collective wages in Germany?
grüße:
kilian

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Antwort von deti:

I was at tonight

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Antwort von WideScreen:

Perhaps it is simply that it with "cheap, I want" does not work.
Have a cheap tripod synonymous rumstehen, which looks great, but if you pan so no one can make and already at record press the Camera moves, then good for nothing and simply does not make fun. Habs then "in the corner geknallt" and bought me something clever.

Quote: and yes, I have a lot of money spent for my camera, but no, that alone is no reason for me, a lot of money for a tripod or greater. machts quality, not price:)

Why has he spent a lot of money if the quality does not depend on price? Had but then synonymous ne Camera 399 can buy?!

Who "a lot of money for a camera output (which is a lot?) Seems the most" serious intentions "to have, so he needs synonymous clever material.
But do look at the first experiences with Hama & Co and we are talking about next:-p

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"deti" wrote: So when does a cheap, then that's alright - I somehow understand this megalomania, the best always have to have not.


It is not about to have the best, but what funkionales.

You can create as a 20 euro tripod in good conscience just do not even recommend to the Camera's in the corner to make. Already garnicht when's the first (and perhaps only) Tripod should be.
This is not 'cheap', but rausgeworfenes Money.

If he is all the people here, who advise against this, will not believe, he should stop his experience yourself.

My personal tip would be to s.and fleamarkets abzuklappern (and a few names and a few criteria - not too light weight, levers and clamps not cheap plastic, Full and stability test - when it's already at the stop light shaking fingers tap away - in mind to have, but otherwise he buys scrap - if not direction be synonymous's doing a photo tripod, but stop what should be solid) and as what useful to keep looking.
There's certainly - synonymous workable bargain for <20 Euro - one needs only to little patience.

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